#356886 - 28/08/05 01:26 AM
Re: Weave Help
 
[Re: TinklePants]
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Registered: 26/08/05
Loc: Little Rock, AR
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Well - I figured it out. doing it slowly, s-l-o-w-l-y at first WITH sticks (I used bbq sqewers) is what did it for me. An incredible feeling. This is very addicting. I realized that while practicing with sticks - I was doing "over, under" without paying attention to the other hand - I suddenly realized that trying to focus on both hands at the same time was throwing me off. problem solved 
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#356887 - 28/08/05 01:31 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Julie2022]
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Registered: 26/08/05
Loc: Little Rock, AR
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reply to my reply - another thing that threw me off what I've been watching videos trying to figure it out (people's vids - not just instruction) - and I was confusing the weave for something else in one of the vids - and that's what I had in my head when tyring to do it....neep, remind me not to do that again.
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#356888 - 28/08/05 01:54 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Julie2022]
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newbie
Registered: 26/08/05
Loc: Oxfordshire
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Nope, still haven't got it, doesn't matter how much I read this stuff as soon as I get outside, it all goes *poof*.
Anyone want to come to Oxfordshire and move my hands around for me?!
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#356889 - 28/08/05 03:51 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Little Miss Fidget]
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Registered: 26/08/05
Loc: Little Rock, AR
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sit if front of your computer, if you have to - get some sticks (pencils, rulers, whatever you have) and try to imitate exactly what she's doing in the video.
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The muse spake her thought and then there was silence. Thy spiked tongue had melted, only a bitter heart remained.
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#356890 - 31/08/05 03:13 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Julie2022]
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newbie
Registered: 31/08/05
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do a straight x over , now do exactly the same thing except you aternate the pois. i.e you have on after the other
this is a bit radom but how do you do a 6? or 7 beat weave
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#356892 - 01/09/05 03:41 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: simian]
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newbie
Registered: 31/08/05
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thank you i just relised ive been doing it for ages but my friend has been telling me its wrong shes doing a kinder buzzsaw thing
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#356893 - 06/09/05 12:23 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Never mind have a lemon]
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newbie
Registered: 28/07/05
Loc: Glasgow, Scotland.
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Reverse weaves seem like a bit of a bugger. I think the "move both poi in unison then slowly make them go out of phase" approach works best. Then just do it alternate when you've nailed it, obviously. But then, nothing's obvious when you're learning, only when you've nailed it. 
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#356894 - 07/09/05 12:26 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Demon]
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Forget puppy power, Scrappy's just gay
Registered: 27/08/05
Loc: Southampton Uni
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Reverse is great fun, particularly high beat weaves, as it takes me aaaaaages to work out when to bring them across. Thank god for mirrors is all I can say.
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#356895 - 07/09/05 12:44 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Drudwyn]
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I looked in a mirror and noticed I was infinitely twisted.
Registered: 02/09/05
Loc: Oregon, USA
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For practicing inside, I'd say grab a pair of socks-in-socks (nice and light and non-damaging) and shorten em up to about a foot (even a little less). This is great for getting the general feel of the movement and weight, and you can even do it while still sittin in front of the puter.
As far as 3bt weave goes, one method that might help is to take away the concentration on what the poi is doing (specially if you're like me and concentrating on the poi itself causes them to gravitate to the head on an upward swing :| ), and concentrate on your arms. Basically you're weaving back and forth, but the arm on top switches each time. So do a 2bt weave and watch which wrist is on top. Next try and bring the other wrist on top for the return.
g'luck.
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#356896 - 07/09/05 12:47 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Cuz]
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newbie
Registered: 09/08/05
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Hey the weave,.
Go UNDER with your left and over with your right, in that order, it will come.. it took me a while.
hope you et it soon!
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#356897 - 07/09/05 12:59 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: PerfectlyNormal]
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monkey
Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
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 erm, PerfectlyNormal? That isn't very good advice at all. the stuff earlier in the thread is a lot more helpful. This thread makes me  because it's lots of people teaching each other the weave and i like teaching people the weave but since this summer i've mostly preferred 2 beat weaves to 3 beat weaves mainly cos they're easier
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#356898 - 10/09/05 06:51 PM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Dut]
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Registered: 06/09/05
Loc: MPLS, MN, US
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do you have any hints on how to get the reverse 3 beat weave? im having some issues, i get one switch, and then it just all goes to hell.
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#356899 - 11/09/05 08:49 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: firepheonix59]
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with added berries
Registered: 07/03/05
Loc: Manchester
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In the forward 3-beat, as mentioned before, each hand is doing a circle on its own side, then one over, one under on the other side.
In the reverse beat the poi is still doing one on its own side (but spinning backwards obviously) but it's now going to do one under, then one over on the other side. Practice this pattern with one poi until you can do it fluently with both hands individually, then put it together. When practicing with one hand try miicing the movement the other hand should be making.
Then you practice turning from forwards weave to backwards weave, good luck!
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#356901 - 22/02/06 09:24 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Suibom]
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Registered: 19/02/06
Loc: Flagstaff, AZ
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This was by far the best weave advice on here:
"As far as 3bt weave goes, one method that might help is to take away the concentration on what the poi is doing (specially if you're like me and concentrating on the poi itself causes them to gravitate to the head on an upward swing :| ), and concentrate on your arms. Basically you're weaving back and forth, but the arm on top switches each time. So do a 2bt weave and watch which wrist is on top. Next try and bring the other wrist on top for the return."
Made it sooooo easy. Even easier than the video. Suibom, you should write a poi book!
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#356903 - 28/03/06 04:53 PM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: candyfliss]
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veteran
Registered: 16/05/05
Loc: on the wrong planet
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The way I teach 3 beat involves a stick about the length of a drumstick, just to get the basic body memory of the arm movements before any tangly poi are involved.
Start off with both arms held straight out in front of you, then bend the right arm at the elbow, and bring the arms slightly together to place the right wrist on top of the left elbow.
This is the start position, pick up your stick and hold it between the hands without changing their position too much.
Now imagine that the stick is attached to a wheel on your left hand side, and you want to move forwards. This starts with the right hand going up and forwards, left hand going down and back, and it rotates until your right wrist bangs against the underside of your left elbow.
Now you straigten out your right arm while bending the left elbow (sliding the arms over each other), until it looks like a mirror image of the starting position (left wrist on top of right elbow).
Rotate the wheel on the right hand side in the same way, until your left wrist bangs against the underside of your right elbow.
Straighten the left, bend the right, slide them back to the start position.
Repeat this a few times, smoothing things out and until you can get the crossing over to happen without the stick/wheel coming out of plane, and then loose the stick.
Now try to do it starting out with fingers pointing away from each other (starts with left hand pointing forwards, right hand pointing back).
At some point add poi.
For reverse just roll the wheel backwards.
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#356904 - 11/04/06 04:41 PM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: polarity]
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member
Registered: 06/09/05
Loc: MPLS, MN, US
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thanks for all the advice. basically i just tried to do it for a week and finally got it. then once i got it, i knew it, but don't ask how i did it.
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#356905 - 17/04/06 04:18 AM
Re: Weave Help
[Re: Flame Boy]
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Me!
Registered: 22/03/06
Loc: Hampshire, UK
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Written by: Flame Boy
One really good tip I can offer is to use two sticks the same length as your pois, then you can go through the routine really slowly and watch exactly where your hands need to go.
Wow, what an amazingly good idea. I guess this can help you learn any move, not just weaves. *Looks for some sticks* 
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