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#2877 - 15/02/01 11:51 AM Wicking - wire or no wire?
flash fire Moderator Offline
Sporadically Prodigal

Registered: 25/01/01
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
I am about to purchase bulk 2inch wicking on behalf of the Sydney crew (now called Phyrotekneiq, incidentally ) and found a vast price difference between Renegade's and Dube's product.

I have used Dube's wicks before...they are a wire reinforced Aramid/Kevlar fabric and I've found it to be high quality. They have offered me 100ft for US$105.

I've not used Renegade's wicking before - theirs has no asbestos or wire but give no indication of fabric used. They were asking US$160 for 100ft.

With our crap dollar, this price difference amounts to over AUD$100!

Can anyone shed some light on this for me? Can anyone suggest an even more competitive supplier than Dube?
flash

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#2878 - 15/02/01 10:46 PM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
Chris @ Fireworks Offline
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Registered: 18/02/01
Loc: Melbourne Victoria Australia
Hi Flash Fire, you may like to know about Pyrotechnique down here in Melbourne. I dont know if you say your groups name the same. Its run by a guy called Felix Chan and he's travelling around the country at the moment so I thought i'd tell you incase it created any confussion. Also those quotes work out to about $200AUS, which is even worse. Try Colan Products in Sydney and they might be able to help you out.
C'ya, Chris @ Fireworks.

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#2879 - 15/02/01 11:37 PM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
Malcolm Administrator Offline
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Registered: 18/11/03
Loc: HOP
Flash Fire,

If you are going to do any fire eating go without the wire.

Malcolm

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#2880 - 16/02/01 10:24 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
flash fire Moderator Offline
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Registered: 25/01/01
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
dammit...we thought we were so clever. back to the drawing board for a name!

Thanks re: wicking.

flash

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#2881 - 16/02/01 10:59 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
Frenzie Offline
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Registered: 30/01/01
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
hmm, spanner in the works for our name....

Just sounded so clever!

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#2882 - 19/02/01 05:56 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
Timmy Offline
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Registered: 11/01/01
Loc: Bishop's Stortford, UK
Does any-one know where to get the kevlar wick in the UK? All my local hardware stores etc seem to have no idea what I am talking about, and just give me vague looks and say "errm.....nope" alot.

Help! I'm running out of socks to use as wick! (then again, summer's coming, so it's bare-feet time! )

Happy Swinging,

Tim /|\


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#2883 - 19/02/01 10:15 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
CAINED-AND-UNABLE Offline
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Registered: 19/02/01
Loc: Manchester
timmy, when u eventually run out of socks use the corner of an old towel.
ive been using rolled up towel for over 6 months now and i dont think ill ever go back to kevlar wicks again.especially cos kevlar wicks are so hard to get hold of in the UK.
towel burns really brightely but only once, saying that, after a really good soak in parrafin ive had them burning for 20+minutes!!!

Cained-and-unable.


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#2884 - 19/02/01 02:08 PM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
Pele Moderator Offline
the henna lady

Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
I actually like towel wicks as well and with proper care I can get mine to last for up to 5 burns, with burns lasting about 10 minutes if I so choose.
But when I go for Kevlar, unwired all the way. No drippy metal burns for me!
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#2885 - 20/02/01 10:57 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
ykaterina Offline
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Registered: 16/01/01
Loc: east randolph, VT USA
i'm all about towel wicks myself (and then obviously a little wire to keep it all together. i've been thinking about kevlar, but with cotton towels being so cheap...
besides that, even with a really small poi i get the same sorts of results pele mentioned, and i *like* re-wrapping, because it reminds me to take a long hard safety look at my chain, etc. welded link chain is proving pretty elusive, so i appreciate the extra discipline.

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#2886 - 21/02/01 12:27 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
Frenzie Offline
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Registered: 30/01/01
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Hi Timmy, Flash is getting our wick via an online shop somewhere, we're getting bulk as we're all keen to make some new toys for our new group thats juys happening.
That may be the best bet for you. When i was up in Byron late last year they were saying there was a shortage in Australia at that time and it may the the case in the UK. . .
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#2887 - 21/02/01 12:39 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
bobrob Offline
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Registered: 16/12/00
Loc: currently in..... Perth WA
Timmy, if youre still after kevlar wicks, try:

http://www.juggling.org/mall/unit_ki.html
or
http://www.eclipse.co.uk/pens/beard/fire.html

usually get it for £4 metre (narrow)/ £7 metre (wide)

good luck!!


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#2888 - 21/02/01 01:10 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
bobrob Offline
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Registered: 16/12/00
Loc: currently in..... Perth WA
oops! My posts are visible in the editor, but not in the real list??!!

i'll try again,

timmy, try http://www.juggling.org/mall/unit_ki.html

for a big list of stuff...!

I'vebought from beard b4 too, try
http://www.eclipse.co.uk/pens/beard/fire.html

good luck mate!


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#2889 - 27/05/03 03:47 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
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remembers when it was all fields round here

Registered: 27/02/03
Loc: in the works... somewhere...
quote:
Originally posted by Frenzie:
hmm, spanner in the works for our name....
Just sounded so clever!

Hey, that's the name of my website! [spank] not that I copywrited it or anything [Wink] but Google pulls up lots of pages by that name.
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#2890 - 28/05/03 12:50 AM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
Stone Offline
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Registered: 13/06/01
Loc: Melbourne
Timely bump. Apparently having wire support in the wick is good for props like clubs or staff that are prone to wear through dropping , whereas ordinary wick is suitable for poi and other props that don’t tend to get dropped [Smile]
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#2891 - 27/05/03 01:31 PM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
Psyri Offline
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Registered: 02/04/03
Loc: Berkshire, UK
Can ne1 advise wot towel is best 2 use? Beach, bathroom or tea towel? [Confused]
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#2892 - 27/05/03 01:58 PM Re: Wicking - wire or no wire?
Chimera Offline
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Registered: 22/05/03
Loc: NC, USA
Just my two cents. First I would like to repeat... fire eating, metal, not good. I probably shouldn't even be posting since I know very little about poi. However I've used Dube wicks for my juggling torches for years and even practicing with them and dropping them they have held up really well. I'm happy with them.

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