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#271147 - 29/12/03 06:28 PM How many planets do you use?
OrangeBobo Offline
wonders where the sidewalk ends...

Registered: 21/11/03
Loc: Guelph, ON, Canada
"Today, the average Earth citizen has a Footprint of 2.8 global hectares . But only 2 global hectares exist per person, and other species need resources too. This means today's human demand on nature is more than the biosphere can replace."

Footprint

I'm at 5.8... ~.~' Must... get... lower....!

How about you guys... This is a really interesting quiz to take!

~ Bobo
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#271148 - 29/12/03 06:59 PM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: OrangeBobo]
arsn Offline
How do you change this thing???

Registered: 07/03/02
Loc: Behind the couch...
Quote:

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 4 PLANETS.




Well that was a great way to end th day... , now I feel just dandy...
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#271149 - 29/12/03 07:36 PM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: OrangeBobo]
NYC Offline
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Registered: 26/08/01
Loc: NYC, NY, USA
Um... I'm American. Why the hell would I care?

"Nature started the fight for survival and now she wants to quit because she's looooosing" -Mr. Burns

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#271150 - 29/12/03 08:47 PM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: OrangeBobo]
Gnor Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 31/03/03
Loc: Perth
I am the same as you Bobo at 5.9......

Have heard this theory before...
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#271151 - 29/12/03 11:41 PM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: Gnor]
UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot Offline
Silly Chavs

Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Possibly Romania
damn....im doing the worst with 5.2

we would all need 2.9 planets if everyone lived like me,....

well, actually thats crap

that question about how often you travel in a car with someone else...

i have to ALWAYS travel in a car with someone else as i cant drive..

motorbike?!?!

WTF?? i dont own a motor bike. there was no option for no km travelled.

some of those quizes can be really biased.
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#271152 - 29/12/03 11:53 PM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
Valura Offline
Mumma Hen

Registered: 25/04/02
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
oh dear. 3.7 planets
poor mother earth
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#271153 - 30/12/03 12:01 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: Valura]
Gnor Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 31/03/03
Loc: Perth
3.7 Valura..I m impressed

*poke*
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#271154 - 30/12/03 12:02 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot]
simian Offline
110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY

Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
Well, i only need 1.8 planets.

so if we colonise Mars then we could all live like me quite sustainably
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#271155 - 30/12/03 02:44 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: simian]
OrangeBobo Offline
wonders where the sidewalk ends...

Registered: 21/11/03
Loc: Guelph, ON, Canada
Uh... UCOF, there is an option for 0km on the motorbike

~ Bobo
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#271156 - 30/12/03 03:10 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: OrangeBobo]
Spanner Offline
remembers when it was all fields round here

Registered: 27/02/03
Loc: in the works... somewhere...
"Total Footprint 2.
Average ecological footprint in your country is 5.3 global hectares per person.
If everyone lived like you, we would need 1.1 planets."

Still room for improvement
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#271157 - 30/12/03 04:33 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: Spanner]
Wizz Offline
-er-pops

Registered: 19/09/03
Loc: UK
1.6 planets - Wow thats not bad. I didnt realise I was that eco friendly. So if I use the moon as well as the earth is that ok?
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#271158 - 30/12/03 04:34 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: OrangeBobo]
Achluophobia Offline
Magical Sock Dancer

Registered: 01/07/03
Loc: Newfoundland, Canada
6.1
thats 3.4 planets.
Better then the avarage for my country, but it still sucks. As soon as I don't live here....

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#271159 - 30/12/03 05:19 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: Achluophobia]
DeepSoulSheep Offline
Carpal \'Tunnel

Registered: 25/09/02
Loc: Berlin
2.9
Most of that coming from what I eat.
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#271160 - 30/12/03 06:38 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: DeepSoulSheep]
oli Offline
not with cactus

Registered: 24/07/03
Loc: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 3.6

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 2 PLANETS

sorry for caps but i just copied and pasted :/



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#271161 - 30/12/03 07:07 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: oli]
mrFlibble Offline
Ghostbuster

Registered: 01/03/03
Loc: York, UK
its slightly unscientific to say the least

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#271162 - 30/12/03 07:21 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: mrFlibble]
TheBovrilMonkey Offline
Liquid Cow

Registered: 03/09/01
Loc: High Wycombe, England
Apparently, I've got a footprint of 2.2 hectares.
Makes me wonder how I fit into my shoes

So, according to that, a world population consisting entirely of my clones would need 1.2 planets.
I don't even think that's a whole extra planet needed, we could probably get away with just using the moon.
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#271163 - 30/12/03 07:42 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: TheBovrilMonkey]
timsimms Offline
member

Registered: 06/04/03
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
Well my footprint is 6.5 Hectares and I need 3.6 planets

But (there is always a but, it follows me around ;-) )

My countries average is 8.7 hectares

Lucky I live on a farm of just over 1000 hectares so I can actually get some exercise and walk around with my big feet.
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#271164 - 30/12/03 10:24 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: timsimms]
Doc Lightning Offline
HOP Mad Doctor

Registered: 28/05/01
Loc: San Francisco, CA, USA
17. Ouch. Of course, if my city OFFERED public transportation anywhere near where I live, that would be much lower...
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#271165 - 30/12/03 11:04 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: Doc Lightning]
Pink...? Offline
Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured

Registered: 06/04/02
Loc: Over There
My footprint is 1.9.

I would need 1.1 planets. Thats like Earth and a tiny bit of the moon

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#271166 - 30/12/03 02:55 PM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: OrangeBobo]
arsn Offline
How do you change this thing???

Registered: 07/03/02
Loc: Behind the couch...
Ha, ya know, if you act dead, meaning your over 65, don't eat meat... cos you can't... live in a 50 meter or smaller home... i.e. a coffin... and don't travel... inside your body that is... we only need 1.0 planets... I WIN! I WIN!!!
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#271167 - 30/12/03 11:11 PM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: OrangeBobo]
NYC Offline
NYC

Registered: 26/08/01
Loc: NYC, NY, USA
Hrmmmm.... bummer. After careful review the quiz seems to have a liberal slant (surprise, surprise).. If you pick all of the crazy 'best' answers (like live with 7 people in a 500 square foot house and no electricity and never eat or drive) you still end up using 1 planet.

Since many of us do have electricity and eat meat and such... and we're not dead... it seems that the poll is a bit off. I had hoped that it was basically saying that "by living in excess like I do it makes some poor farmer in Ethiopia have less"... but actually that poor farmer in Ethiopia is taking up too much of a foot print also.

So all I really need to do is kill 6 Ethiopian farmers and I can drive my SUV 100 miles a day and I'm still taking up less of a footprint than if I was never born. Actually, I can kill any 6 people and I'm good. Excellent.

So by killing others I can feel less guilty about not carpooling. Cool.

See and I thought the war in Iraq was a bad thing.

I think I may have missed the point though.
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#271168 - 31/12/03 12:13 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: NYC]
Kelly Offline
member

Registered: 04/12/03
Loc: London UK
COnsidering I live in London I think 1.8 planets is pretty good..when I go to my parents I grow all my own veg and we slaughter our own meat so our footprint is better...

Still appauling though.

Kelly
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#271169 - 31/12/03 02:03 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: OrangeBobo]
Kinudin (Soul Fyre) Offline
veteran

Registered: 21/12/01
Loc: San Diego, California, USA
Total Footprint: 15

3.4 planets.

Eep

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#271170 - 31/12/03 09:02 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: Kinudin (Soul Fyre)]
flash fire Moderator Offline
Sporadically Prodigal

Registered: 25/01/01
Loc: Sydney, NSW, Australia
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 2.3

IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 7.6 GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 1.3 PLANETS

sorry about the caps too....
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#271171 - 31/12/03 11:10 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: OrangeBobo]
Arakrys Offline
member

Registered: 09/06/03
Loc: Wageningen, NL
I use 1.4 to 1.6 ha depending on how i answer (sometimes I am just in the middle of two options).
One World is Enough for me.

Yes, my house is eco-designed, i actively shun planes (so I just spent 27 hours coming back from lovely Scotland by boat & train. Plane & train would have been about 4 hours, and cheaper.) and I eat no meat. I found a job nearby, before that my print was more like 3.4ha for traveling to Amsterdam. And no it does not hurt to live like that.

NYC: "Um... I'm American. Why the hell would I care?"
That's the spirit!

Fritter: "some of those quizes can be really biased. "
MrFlibble: "its slightly unscientific to say the least "
There are versions where you get to fill in every little detail. Like how many cups of milk or slices of cheese a day, electricity use in kWh per year, type of clothes and how long you wear them etc.
Then they do a lot of math and produce a 5-digit-precision number of all these things combined in one unit, here being the area needed to sustain you.
But why would you do all that. In the end the recalculation of all these things into one unit is just a way to make a quick indication that everyone can understand.

I think the value of this 'footprint' is to give you a quick impression of your impact. The questions are very well chosen to give the quickest possible result. You can be ready within two minutes and they show how you are compared to others and what part of your life has the largest impact.


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#271172 - 31/12/03 11:31 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: Arakrys]
bubblishis Offline
False Eyelash

Registered: 27/12/03
Loc: New York City
Say what?? I take the subway and ate cookies for lunch. Still came out at 2.7 planets! Well I guess that would balance out my postage-stamp sized apartment.

Americans are fatasses. So at least I'm consistent.
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#271173 - 31/12/03 01:02 PM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: bubblishis]
Rouge Dragon Offline
Insert Champagne Here

Registered: 21/07/03
Loc: without class distinction
TOTAL FOOTPRINT 5.1

IN COMPARISON, THE AVERAGE ECOLOGICAL FOOTPRINT IN YOUR COUNTRY IS 7.6 GLOBAL HECTARES PER PERSON.

IF EVERYONE LIVED LIKE YOU, WE WOULD NEED 2.8 PLANETS.

that quiz is so crap! how the hell am i supposed to know the population of my town? the size of my house? and the fuel efficiency of my car which i can't even legally drive and therefore ALWAYS share a car?

aww, and its nice to now that the only way to use one planet is to be a vegan who lives in a commune, walks everywhere and doesnt have electricity or running water. obviously THAT was where i was getting it wrong!
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#271174 - 31/12/03 01:28 PM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: Rouge Dragon]
MikeIcon Offline
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 27/03/03
Loc: Philadelphia, PA - USA
Total footprint 19 and I need 4.5 planets.

This must mean Im a real American
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#271175 - 01/01/04 08:11 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: MikeIcon]
Eera Offline
old hand

Registered: 29/05/03
Loc: In a test pit, Mackay
5.9 or 3.5 planets.

As I'm in the mining industry my tunnelling activities are making more space for footprints though.
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#271176 - 04/01/04 05:08 AM Re: How many planets do you use? [Re: Eera]
Arakrys Offline
member

Registered: 09/06/03
Loc: Wageningen, NL
Rouge Dragon said:
"that quiz is so crap! how the hell am i supposed to know the population of my town? the size of my house? and the fuel efficiency of my car which i can't even legally drive and therefore ALWAYS share a car?"
Oh they are just estimates. Take the closest number for population that looks good. For car efficiency: i did not even get to that question but that's pretty vital to compare car use ain't it? One could state the quiz was crap when it did NOT ask about that.

and

"aww, and its nice to now that the only way to use one planet is to be a vegan who lives in a commune, walks everywhere and doesnt have electricity or running water. obviously THAT was where i was getting it wrong!"
I think you are pretty close yet far away from the intended message. Big helpers in having a low footprint are what you eat and how you travel, i think that's the main message. So if you aim for a lower footprint, travel less and eat less meat.





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