Calling all hyperloop boffs

i don't think that would be possible unless you throw out the complete hyperloop concept. you (as far as i know) have to work in opposites such as left to right, front to back, due to the nature of the 'knot' when hyperlooping being used if you wanted a 'move' involving a knot and wanted to release in on the same side you would have to think up something completely different to a hyperloop. Mabye some kind of slip knot variety? but er... good luck

Or to get your hands over to the other side of the "buzzsaw bit in the middle of a hyperloop' so instead of your hands being inside as the poi untangle....

Right complete trail of thought. three beat forward weave hyperlooping from left to right after the buzzsaw in between your arms and as the poi are beginning to untangle and they are slightly isolated after revolving around the knot is it possible to at that point bring them across to your left hand side again.


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after trying to read my previous post i have just realised how f*****d up i still am! sorry for making so little sense i'm trying

you can exit out the same side you entered.. BUT.. in order to do so you need to isolate to untangle the hyperloop and then retanlge it as you move back the direction you came from... Its what my boy itchell refers to as opening the hyperloop... basically the motion you make when doing a tangled buzzsaw can be isolated (as can the buzzsaw part of the hypelrooping buzzsaw) which will untanlge the stings. leaving you in an isolated buzzsaw.. which you can then speed up your hands to tangle the way you came (ie. back out the right)or slow down to tanlge the way you were originially going( i.e. continuing through the left)..

I don't know how much that helps. but it is possible to exit back out the side you came in.. its jus really hard...

I agree that it is possible, but u dont need to untangle/retangle u can (if performed correctly) change both the direction of poi and also the where they will seperate.

Actually we were just talking bout keeping the chains together all the time, even during untangle... but i dont think this is the right thread for that so...

Any way u can do sort of a hyperloop offset weave type deal and bring it back to the same side, darn there are so many different ways to do this, the best advice i can give is count your rotations and also find a way to change the poi axis and direction.

thanks rev and taniwha....(sp)?

that answers my question, dont think im gonna try and learn how to do that yet though, sounds fairly insane

at least i know its possible now

Ok, this may just be a variation of the tangled hyperloop-buzzsaw... but if you turn around from reverse to forwards (or forwards to reverse) and you stop your hands at 3 and 9 it is quite easy to begin a hyperloop right between the arms which can then be exited (if turning from reverse to forwards, clockwise) under the right arm...

P.S. still have no idea what a tangled buzzsaw is then, but feel I am getting closer.

sounds prety close to me... sounds like the way you enter and exit the tangled buzzsaw fountain...

I need a video camera or a movie to see what you mean. I think that the tangled buzzsaw that I am talking about is just wrapping on the inside of the arms in the way that a normal outside-inside-outside hyperloop wraps, only without the initial OUTSIDE part. As it is, if you do this the way I do, they STAY tangled between the arms until you bring one arm across for the unwrap. The unwrap feels (to me anyway) just like continuing the weave motion. Meaning, if I start in reverse weave and turn right, letting the poi tangle on my (Now left side, was the right when I was going reverse, but I turned, remember), except that because of the turn instead of the tangle staying on the left side, it swings up under my left arm and into the tangled buzzsaw portion of this move. Then the left arm must come UNDER the right for the untangle...

See that is where it seems to differ from a hyperloop. In a hyperloop, spinning forward and going from left to right (as this move is similar to) the left arm would need to come over the right to untangle. Except in my exit for an outside-inside-outside hyperloop, which I exit similar to THIS move, meaning the hand comes under instead of over the arm. Maybe I am just doing it wrong or something, but when I do what I call a double-hyperloop (an outside-inside-outside, called thus because it looks like it spins twice in tangle instead of once, though more than twice is possible too if you mess up right or actually know what your doing ) the move exits UNDER the arm of the side that it exits on... Umm... a regular hyperloop (No inside beats) exits for me under the opposite side arm of the side it exits on, IE moving from left to right, the left hand is on top the whole time, and the move thus exits "under" the left arm. Whereas when I move it between my arms for that extra spin, I have a tendancy to lift my right arm up and move my left arm down across my body and under the right arm to exit. It gives you a feeling like you are holding a string as far back by your bottom rib on your right side as you can with your LEFT hand (Arm stretched across body), with your right arm pulling the other end extended straight out in front of you.

Yes thats about what Im trying to describe... When I do the turn where I go into a tangle between my arms, I exit the same way... you will notice that in this exit position, it is VERY easy to just spin 180 degrees into the opposite direction weave.... Thus why I prefer to turn all the way through this move. I actually start by doing two hyperloops (right to left, then left to right) forward spinning, and then turning 180 degrees to do this tangle between the arms thing (which would be in reverse weave), exiting back out by turning another 180 degrees into my original forward weave. Its a nice little combo.

Now if a CORRECT outside-inside-outside hyperloop moving from left to right in a forward spin is actually ends with the left hand above the right hand in propper hyperloop fashion, then I am not doing THOSE right, though I think my "variation" is just the same thing only with an isolated exit... I mean if you think of the normal outside-inside-outside exit like I just described it, then just move your hands on the right side about 180 degrees counterclockwise you arrive at the basic exit position of MY outside-inside-outside hyperloop, thus why I say it is like an isolation...

an airwrap and a hyperloop are the same things... the only difference is one stays in the same plane.. left, right, buzzsaw, etc... the other travels across planes.. ie.. left to right right to left.. etc...

the tangle buzzsaw should be/feel everything like a hyperlooping one, since it is an an airwrap... but thats it.. it diesnt travel anywhere... the poi do.. but the tangle doesnt...

turns make it easier to learn the tangled buzzsaw... I used them a lot.. and there is a variation that is a weave... if you half-isolate as you go through the turn, you will notice that your hands continue making the weave motion the whoel time.. the isolation keeps the strings from tangling... basically you can weave back and forth by weaving through the buzzsaw.. its hella fun... I don't care what it looks like...

enjoy.. makes for awesome fountain type stuff... and ironically isn't that hard BTB as one would expect...

edit: oh yeah.. and beware because you can do an outside inside outside hyperloop that enters at different points in the weave... once you strt playing with that isolation thing above.. I've managed to tanlge on the way in and untangle on the outside.. kinda like a normal 2circle hyperloop.. and thats not what I was referring to with the tanglged buzzsaw (for reference)