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#163807 - 19/08/03 07:29 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
UnscrupulousChavOffersFoot Offline
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Registered: 17/04/02
Loc: Whales
can we get together a fund to fly him over to spitz one day?

oh please can we? please!
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#163808 - 19/08/03 08:23 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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[LOL] [umm] [Big Grin]

Thank you Ninja for telling me to go see this site! [Tickled]

That rainbow thing looks cool, but IMHO Feeding the Fish do a far cooler job of dark performance. [Smile]
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#163809 - 19/08/03 10:34 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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eventually the rage calms and the only thing left to do is to giggle at his antics. Ocassionaly pity enters your mind but then a stary gust of wind will bring a bit of his speech to your ears and the cycle starts anew
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#163810 - 20/08/03 12:21 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
Charles Moderator Offline
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quote:
can we get together a fund to fly him over to spitz one day?
surely it would cheaper just to put him on a spit?

<oops did i say that? Naughty moderator! <<slaps his hand>> >
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#163811 - 19/08/03 01:35 PM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
Pele Moderator Offline
the henna lady

Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
Well, when no one else tells you it's long enough and good enough, don't you HAVE to find a way to compensate? [Wink]

*silently hoping that the fact that he is a US-er does not reflect on the US community at an international level [Eek!] *

And, I wonder what he thinks about all the Martial Artists and Polynesian Knife spinners who have been doing such things for CENTURIES...hmmmmmmmmmmm....

[ 19. August 2003, 16:46: Message edited by: Pele ]
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#163812 - 19/08/03 03:04 PM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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Registered: 28/02/02
Loc: Portland, Oregon, USA
I met Mr. Heart on the beach in Seattle at a community burn three or four years ago.

He has some solid skills, no doubt, but his attitude is awful -- as far as I could tell he alienated basically the whole Seattle fire community in about an hour.

Among those who have met him he has served as an example of what kind of performer they aspire not to be. I know certain rather excellent performers whose development has been spurred by their loathing of him.

I make efforts not to abuse anyone, especially in an open online forum, but I also like to tell things as I see them.

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#163813 - 19/08/03 09:20 PM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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From the Ashes of a Ninja Rise THE HIPS OF RAGE

Registered: 08/07/03
Loc: Edinburgh
unfortunately his skills consist of spining fast without any control which is good for people who don't know how to spin but to go around claiming you're the best in the world at a convetion full of other spinners with that kind of "skill" level just isn't done.
and yes we are normally a very supportive community but the heart is a special case


p.s. nice name and that firewhip looks pretty bad ass fire ninja
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#163814 - 19/08/03 11:32 PM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience *DELETED*
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#163815 - 19/08/03 11:43 PM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience *DELETED*
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#163816 - 20/08/03 01:43 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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bluecat - the heart's celtic dance show has "Staff juggling and twirling at speeds in excess of 100 M.P.H."

it sounds terribly dangerous and stupendously astounding - but surely no-one would use anything but a safety-guaranteed spinbo for something that crazy...?

"I've come to one conclusion about people everywhere. They're not stupid ... I have wonderful things to offer. They believe this and are anxious to reward me. You will too."

cheeky bastard!
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#163817 - 20/08/03 01:55 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
simian Offline
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Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
[LOL] [LOL] [LOL]
OK that last quote is too funny.
Are you sure he's not just pretending? That his persona isn't actually an elaborate piece of performance art\comedy?
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#163818 - 20/08/03 03:16 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
Pele Moderator Offline
the henna lady

Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
Can we send him an Art of Staff video? Look...there is more to this than fast!

Alas, Simian *le sigh*, I fear not. He truly is a narcissistic, egomaniacle, megalomaniac with the extreme talent of pissing off a really *large* group of people in a single step.

My understanding is that he managed to offend a large room full of people with one sentence as well. Never was told what that was though. I have only ever met two other people capable of doing that. I think he is their King.

Thing is, as far as marketing goes, he is a genius. His antics get him talked about which gets people looking his way, and despite that his site sucks, everyone here has looked at it, haven't they?
What's that old saying about all publicity is good publicity???
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#163819 - 20/08/03 04:02 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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how many of us are going to book him tho?


[Eek!] at the thought.
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#163820 - 20/08/03 05:51 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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Has anyone ever challenged the king to a public battle? I just get so inspired by this mf and i'm thinking of going to the next EJC just to battle him.... Waste of energy and time maybe but people like him just get me mad.
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#163821 - 20/08/03 07:59 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
Pele Moderator Offline
the henna lady

Registered: 15/12/00
Loc: WNY, USA
quote:
Originally posted by bluecat:
how many of us are going to book him tho?


[Eek!] at the thought.

That's part of the point though. We are not the ones who book, so our thoughts/feelings on this guy are pretty irrelevant. However, the more hits we give his site...the greater chance it shows up in searches and then he does get booked by unsuspecting people.

It still works in his favor.

"Battling", like at raves and clubs? Last time I went to any group thing of that sort there wasn't any battling going on because it breeds animosity and competition, instead of the all around good, sharing kind of stuff..... I doubt he would do it.
But I'd laugh to watch....
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#163822 - 20/08/03 09:48 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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quote:
Originally posted by Pele:

"Battling", like at raves and clubs? Last time I went to any group thing of that sort there wasn't any battling going on because it breeds animosity and competition, instead of the all around good, sharing kind of stuff..... I doubt he would do it.
But I'd laugh to watch.... [/QB]

Battling like in breakdancing or mc'ing.. Battling doesn't have to be negative or even about competition, it's a way to share also. I know it's uncommon in the firescene. But I'm sure everybody agrees that this guy is just asking to get served.
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#163823 - 20/08/03 11:21 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
Charles Moderator Offline
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Registered: 27/06/01
Loc: Auckland
Bluecat...
quote:
>Any music for any performance
>Costumes for any theme event
>Spotless safety record

when you see a man spin a staff on the open stage at the EJC and it breaks in half and flies into the audience you have an easy one there.....


I'm not sure about the context of your statement? Are you talking about one of his performances?

I hope so, because someone who has been performing for THAT long with THAT big and ego is likely to have so many spots on his safety record that it looks like a cheetah [Big Grin]

And Pele, I disgaree about the hits to his website. Sure, it mean he comes up more often, but people who book him after looking at his website are partially at fault themselves.

It doesn't take special fire-twirling knowledge to realise what sort of person he is.

I mean come-on!

quote:
"I've come to one conclusion about people everywhere. They're not stupid ... I have wonderful things to offer. They believe this and are anxious to reward me. You will too."
After reading that statement, which says nothing about twirling, but everythign about him, I feel anxious to reward him myself.

In fact, maybe I will send him an email asking him to provide proof that he has the "worlds largest fire staff" and how he recorded the speed of his spinning. I know it is much harder to record the speed of a spinning object compared to one moving in a straight line.
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#163824 - 21/08/03 12:14 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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for anyone who missed it, at the EJC on the open stage robert heart did his "amazing" UV butterfly thingy routine. While performing, his incredibly enginered staff broke in half and one half went flying into the audience.
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#163825 - 21/08/03 12:17 AM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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Loc: Edinburgh
I was speaking to glass and he had the great idea of running stick workshops everyday next year at the EJC to counter the evil that is robert hearts spinning style. We'd get all the crew together and have everyone teaching different stick aspects do a big spinning school. Although the heart's gym coach teaching style is good for absolute beginers unfortunatley what he's teaching can be politely described as wank.
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#163826 - 20/08/03 09:06 PM Re: The non-actively mean robert heart experience
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Registered: 29/08/02
Loc: lunn dunn, yoo kay
quote:
Originally posted by The Approving Ninja:
I was speaking to glass and he had the great idea of running stick workshops everyday next year at the EJC

[Cool] where do i sign up?


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