Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops

DUDE, Maxi + is a "sanatry towel" lmao! I think thats the point, mind u i like "tosted nose puppy" better.

Thanks Nick, i hav'nt seen it yet, but @ 56k in about 20 min. I had'nt even thought of glow stix, i usually pratice with fire.

Im starting to get a better idea of that bth/ btb hyperloop Arashi. I still cant do it but the idea is there. Mainly iv been working on turning btb loops, and forward outside loops.

Man i love hyperloops.

Those vids are PHAT. Those guys look like they are having fun, and they dont even need fire to do it. Yea boy.

Cant really tell if that guy really is doing a hyperloop or wraps. Sort of looks like 1 im doing but minus the turn. I have 1other simila that goes under your arm from btb rev weave.

1 day we will have clear video where u can analize the moves in depth.

[ 21. April 2003, 21:44: Message edited by: Raging Dragon ]

maybe on col4!?!?!

i think it is just the air wrap I do on the hyperloops tutorial video, last two move, except his is btb

from a standard 2-beat windmill, start the hyperloop behind your head. Instead of brining it back infront of you to un-wrap, turn 180 keeping the poi behind you. They will then unwrap bth.

Yea, it is Santana. It looks cool though, do u even know what U r doing with that move, cause i dont. Im sure u r both missing the "flip" through. Phat move though.

Thats the 1 Jaeden is describing i think. Im trying to get it, it looks eaiser than some of mine, but the blow to the back of the head takes it toll.

[ 26. April 2003, 17:32: Message edited by: Raging Dragon ]

OK i finally understand some more about loops and air wraps and although this thread is pointless (cause hardly n e 1 replyed) ill add what i currently understand.

The maxi + is a tangled buzzsaw a.k.a inside hyp weave... which is not what im doing. The main btb loops im getting right now are "bounces" and air wraps. I finally got the over the head 1 "thanks Arashi" and afew different variations.

Basic starters : do a 3bt wind mill but make the strings clash,front wall plane, as in a standard airwrap, on the 3rd beat, now pull it bth and let it air wrap bth. A.k.a Flaming halo

Now from the flaming halo, u can go straight into another air wrap bth, (Haming flalo?) OK as the hands seperate bth go into another 3bt windmill, bth wall plane, and on the 3rd beat let the strings clash again and while rotating bth pull into front wall plane ( as u would a nornal 4-5bt windmill) and let em un loop. simple.

Btb Bounces: or standard bounces are when the poi strings/ chains clash and u turn you body 180 degree's ( or maybee just 90) and the string never rotates but the poi chains bounce apart. Nice effect, and confuses the hell outta any decent spinners That has already been post above.

Now the btb tangled buzzsaw im still working on, although id say to everyone to have a good look at the glowstring videos cause they have some nice loops and even afew btl (between the legs) airwraps that work good.

I'm confused here..

are these just hyperloops in other places with funny names?

or are you airwrapping in some of these moves?

I don' tknow which to help you with, because I'm confused as to what your trying say...

Hyperloops are the same in all the places, front, over head (windmill like ^\/) , btb, bth(weave like<->), BTL... well BTL is a bit rough..UTL Isnt as bad..

now the airwraps.. ugh... mine arent really clean/reliable in mostl of those places..
but I never really played with airwraps much..

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are these just hyperloops in other places with funny names?

or are you airwrapping in some of these moves?

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OK you dont need to, but it helps to be able to do 5bt windmills/ weaves 1st, u also need to be able (pretty simple) to do Air wrap weaves , ie u do a weave, usually 5bt can be eaiser 4bt, and when your halfway through it , 3bts u tangle the chains ok? Then while they are tangled and rotating, you cross the poi on to the other side of your body like a normal weave, and thats when the poi reverse direction and start un-tangling and you can go back into weave. Easy as a weave.

The reason hyperloops confuse people is cause they are "tangled buzzsaw", a.k.a "inside hyperloop weave" or whateva but they are much harder than ya average weave airwrap.

Dam... Average weave air wrap: do a weave on your right side, tangle chains, continue weave motion and cross the poi onto left side of body and let them un tangle till your doing circles or go back into weave. I just said that but i said it again cause i dont know if its understandable in language. And its also slightly different to a normall air wrap cause u may or may not have to move your hands anywhere with 1 of those.

yo.

just foraging into btb, but this thread is very cool. bluecat should really be here, and blackass has some nice stuff, but i just tell you about some bits and peices.

we do a lot of the btb stuff in waistrap, but i really like to know more about btb inside weave, thant sounds like fun. Im still at the stage of boncing from forwards to backwards, rather than the other way, and im a bit confused about getting a flaming halo to stay behind my head. any tips?

bouncing. sounds real intrestiong, I think i might have an idea about how it wours, your untangling the string under the heads, rather than untangling at the heads. anywhere near?

Turning, as recently and beutifully demonstrated to me by bluecat the other day, there are two turns, either you transition the hyperloop with the turn, or you isloate the hyperloop and turn underneith it. This is the basis for robs airwrap pirrottes, and i bet they would work well btb too.

keep it comming, but maybe spoken a little slower, this stuff is mindblowing, but beutifull.

T

Edited for abusive laguage and lack of dancing monkeys & lama's.

whoa.. you take my post as being mean.. I wasn't saying it as an ass.. I was confused to your post.. I asked.. you replied with an explanation of a hyperloop.. and then asked why the namehyperloop.. I responded with what and why of the term hyperloop..


I didn't understand the reason for naming and over head hyperloop as flaming halo airwrap..

I wasn't pissing.. I was confused about the discussion ... the over head hyperloop is the same as a regular hyperloop, same as an utl hyperloop..

I made mypoint clear that I was confused.. and when I explain my case hence the cause of my confusion, you got pissed..

I'm sorry I still don't understand the point of your post.. was it to post a over the head hyperloop.. or was it to ask question about one and the further possibilites..

chill

OK point taken :

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The reason hyperloops confuse people is cause they are "tangled buzzsaw", a.k.a "inside hyperloop weave" or whateva but they are much harder than ya average weave airwrap.

see that's your confusion right there

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Rev

I was refering to an Air wrap, with the flaming halo, happy with that? Like iv said, im not using tangled buzzsaw in any btb stuff yet Well not enought that im happy to post about anyway.

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i really like to know more about btb inside weave

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Nix

If your talkin btb tangled buzzsaw, then "as above'", but if your talking about that move i discribed in hop chat, it should really be in another thread, and its so easy id be surprised if you cant already do it. Just do a 5/6bt weave anywhere "side on" btb and thats it.

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and im a bit confused about getting a flaming halo to stay behind my head. any tips?

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corkscrew air wraps

original flaming halo

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bouncing. sounds real intrestiong, I think i might have an idea about how it wours, your untangling the string under the heads, rather than untangling at the heads. anywhere near?

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My chains never even tangle, there is no rotation, they hit each other look like they r guanna rotate but the just bounce off each other and go the opposite direction.

still horrendosly confused about everything exept the airwraps, is this bouce thing the same one you and rev were talking about comming out of an inside hyp?

btw, thanks for the thread, despite understanding very little i seem now to be able to do btb airwraps, weird huh?

am here.

confused by the bounce tho.

everything else is pretty understandable methinks.

ooooh to pick up poi again... well in a day or three i guess.

keep it up
R

nx: what did I say about bounces?/ I dont have a lto fo time at the moment to go through the posts...

tani- yeah but what I was saying was that your description of the flaming halo
"take the airwrap and carry it to the back"
is why I was confused.. because you do that and you've done a hyperloop.. so I didn't understand it being a precursor to the hyperloop.. hence my confusion.. it makesmuch more sense to think of a flaming halo when I think about doing an airwrap bth... but.. when I reread your descrip, that's not the impression I get.. I get the impression that you are taking an airwrap to bth... does that make sense? so I'm still kinda confused as to what it is...

Yes i am taking it bth while its rotation, but its still not rotaing inside the "ball" as a buzzsaw would. I was re-trying this last night and came up with about 10 different ideas.

Hmmm the flaming halo that the guy does on the glowstring is different to the 1 im doing, i just really figured that out.. you can airwrap in front in corkscrew, and they can un tangle in front... thats what your talking, but you can also airwrap in front and un-airwrap bth and thats why its so confusing.

Same goes in reverse: you can air wrap bth and un air wrap bth, but im describing the 1 that air wraps bth and u pull it in front (as in corkscrew/ windmill) and un-air wrap it in front.

Hope that clears up the confusion.

Im pretty sure Blue has already posted a thread about bounces, though im not sure they are exactly the same as what im doing, but in the process, iv figured out afew more btb airwraps, but you'd probibly need to be able to do 5bt+ btb turning weaves to get that. So ill get to that @ a latertime.

All i can say is the chains cross and create an axis, but then i turn my body 90-180 degree's and they reverse direction before any airwrap can occur. Its actually quite simple, cause its like the first air wrap u should learn, but for some reason you'd never figure it out till u can get multipul beats so to recap... imagine not quite doing an airwrap, or stoping just before the poi start rotation, and changing direction to rev the poi.

Oh yea, i aint god... so dont take my word as "carved in stone" the main point of this thread was to throw afew ideas round and see what people come up with and try to push afew "new" moves and evolve a little, its not ment to be about me dictating about what I think you should do. So start throwing...

tani- what I was saying was that a hyperloop doesn't have to pass through the buzzsaw... its what you were describing.. airwrap in front bring it back an it untangles... and I never really thoguht about turning before it can tangle.. have to chekc that out.. I've been using turns lately to do an isolation type motions (i.e. making the poi appear to just float/stall) I think I understand what your getting at though now.,..

i think i'm actually going to have to SEE these bounce loops. my thread on bounces was actually on bouncy ends that you let go and bounce off the surrounding floor/wall etc.

gonna play with these bth things today...nice work guys

Common Blue, stop holding out... i know there are loads of peeps here doing btb air wraps... its nothing new and its not THAT advanced, i just get the feeling that noone wants to talk about it... kinda like monkey fists