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#124792 - 15/02/04 01:30 PM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: Dragon7]
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i know there are loads of peeps here doing btb air wraps... its nothing new and its not THAT advanced, i just get the feeling that noone wants to talk about it... kinda like monkey fists




very true
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#124793 - 16/02/04 08:39 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: Dragon7]
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holding out? after my teaching moves rants i'd better write you an essay

what are you after tho?

i find multi beat hyps really hard to show in text form, and most of my btb/bth hyps are mutlibeat(the ones that arent are pretty straightforward hance why i've not posted them here..)

but heres an attempt at a couple i like anyway.

airwrap pirouettes.
much easier than they sound or look.

go into an airwrap, and turn round really quickly, so the wrap stays where it is(as you turn your hands will naturally isolate the wrap)

if you turn slowly, you will just do an airwrap that moves to bth.
if you turn really fast(a proper pirouette ) then it doesn't come out until you are back to facing again...


round the head airwraps

again you need to isolate a little here.
two different variations, so i'll put them in personal chronological order

as if you were coming into a reverse tangle buzzsaw on the right..
come into the buzzsaw, then rotate your rightarm round the left side of your head, followed (very) swiftly by the left arm.. so the tangle goes all the way round and comes back out on your right side, then can be carried on (if you've still enough momentum...) or exited as you would a normal tangle buzzsaw.

second one is a bit more tricky.... so i'm going to go away and practise it for an hour or so so i understand it a bit better, and then i'll come back and post it here.

step through to btb

airwrap step throughs. when the tangle is taking place step one leg over it, and it exits btl.

if you modify your hand position a little you get a continuous tangle(same as you do in front...) this means you can step your second leg over.... right now cause i've not worked this one alot i am only exiting normal btb, but i have a feeling that cause there is usually loads of momentum left the world is small and mollusc-shaped from here on in.



like i say, most of my btb airwraps and hyps are pretty standard. just the opposites of the in-front ones, but if you want me to post some explanations then i'd be happy to....

R

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#124794 - 18/02/04 01:00 PM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: bluecat]
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wow cool, thats all i needed, just some random ideas but to go off topic (sorta) iv been working on btl weaves into reverse btl weaves, which has nothing to do with btb air wraps but is still super fun and real difficult. I may have to change that to btl airwraps, seeing as iv just got the basics down.

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#124795 - 05/03/04 07:10 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: Dragon7]
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well, like the happy camper i am ive gone away and learnt most of thease, and have a little more to add now.

as we were saying on tangles galove, butterfly airwraps work bothways too, and i finally got the other way. but in a weird way.

overhead butterfly airwrap (the butterfly halo) when it gets to the back, push your hand together a little and them twich back and the poi will immeadaly re-tangle (no beat inbetween) for another airwrap from back to front.

T
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#124796 - 05/03/04 07:17 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: bluecat]
simian Offline
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All bluecats tangles are belong to me now

*triumphant pose*

what? they've gotta be...? No! clean? CLEAN?!?

you bastards
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#124797 - 05/03/04 07:34 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: simian]
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the pirroette too?

T
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#124798 - 05/03/04 05:57 PM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: [Nx?]]
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All bluecats tangles are belong to me now

*triumphant pose*

what? they've gotta be...? No! clean? CLEAN?!?

you bastards






LMFAO

As for the "butterfly halo" WTF!!! I wish i had of thought of that, bad a$$ move. Thats a whole can o whip ass, and a fair bit of pain. Yea, looking forward to that. Maybee im addicted to the pain, cause i just got the badest burn iv ever had, and the worse thing was it was in exactly the same place on my body, 2 weeks running. (And it never hurt)

Though im not sure the scar will ever heal.. . mind u iv given up on that move, so i must be getting soft.

HEY Actually, wouldn't u need to have real short chains to pull that btb b-fly loop off?!?

/me runs outside to try


Edited by Taniwha07 (05/03/04 07:55 PM)

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#124799 - 05/03/04 10:02 PM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: [Nx?]]
simian Offline
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the pirroette too?




yah the pirroette. it's my favourite

wierdly enough it's harder and cooler if you do it untangled
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#124800 - 05/03/04 11:11 PM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: simian]
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monkey see monkey do





got some variation hyps/aw's (hippos?) but no time to post them this morning, so later. actually they are not really btb airwraps, but i htink this is probly the most appropriate thread....


laters
R
(ps heres one to [censored] with your mind, and leave bruises all over:
butterfly halo rr(rotational reverse) into half pirouette... )

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#124801 - 06/03/04 10:08 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: bluecat]
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well sorry guys i've been too busy HAVING A LIFE and MAKING OUT WITH REAL LIVE GIRLS to add much to this conversation

you guys sound like you are having fun. been dancing, haven't touched my chains in weeks. grumble grumble damn newbies working too hard and keeping me on my toes [grabs orange sock poi and runs outside]
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#124802 - 07/03/04 07:57 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: arashi]
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well sorry guys i've been too busy HAVING A LIFE and MAKING OUT WITH REAL LIVE GIRLS to add much to this conversation

you guys sound like you are having fun. been dancing, haven't touched my chains in weeks. grumble grumble damn newbies working too hard and keeping me on my toes [grabs orange sock poi and runs outside]




humm, why do you think my poi has taken off so hard this week or two?

Ive been dancing too....

T
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#124803 - 08/03/04 12:16 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: [Nx?]]
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so it's that kind of holiday is it thomas?



sir Blackass and i have been playing around with hyperloop suicides which move to btb and btl hyperloop suicides ridiculously easy

learning the suicide is the hardest part, the btb is like, 1% of the trick)

the suicide works like this:

go into a normal airwrap (spinning a/c, lke most people) but with hands at about 1 and 7 instead of 3 and 9. (if your comfortable airwrap is clockwise, then your hands should be at 11 and 5).

try to make the tangle occur pretty close to the poi heads, so the weight either side of the tangle is approximately the same.

as soon as the poi have tangled, let go with the left hand, and pull up a tiny bit with your right hand(the one that was at '1')

this should make the left poi spin around all by itself in the airwrap, and then you can grap the handle again after a revolution or two, and then exit the airwrap. sometimes the exit happens while suiciding, but thats nice too.

now try with the suiciding poi coming from btl, btb, waistwrapped, etcetc.

particularly nice at the end of a flower, complicated or otherwise.


if only i didn't juggle i'd have been dancing wit' me poi too, but i'm a bit addicted to passing patterns right now . the waltz is a partickly nice one , but it does mean only 6 hours or so last week poi-ing . more this week tho.


oohooohoh before i forget
behind the back 'thread the needle'

again heres the in front version(trttn)

catch both poi heads. make a loop with the string of one of them(left for preference for me)
throw the right poi head through the loop and catch it so you have a tangle, but each hand is holding its own poi head.
release the heads, giving a little bit of momentum clockwise so the tangle exits.

btb: hold the loop just behind the left hip, and throw the right poi head btb, so the tangle catch remains btb. this then releases(clockwise) into a btb waistwrap.


off to dance(mmmm empty rehearsal space..... )
R
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#124804 - 08/03/04 08:25 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: bluecat]
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you cheeky monkeys and your non-attached handles. i might just have to try that, it sounds fun. wow i learned something else here at HOP.

as of last night i now have the tightest 4+ beat spider airwraps mankind has ever witnessed, looks really cool one arm btb wall plane during a [belly dance] level change arabic undulation. put that in your pipe and smoke it! now when hyperlooped i got 10 wrap circles minimum. anybody want to touch my bum?
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#124805 - 09/03/04 04:42 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: arashi]
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f*&$ing airwraps.
my brains in a wrap just reading this.
seriously this stuff hurts my head
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#124806 - 09/03/04 04:47 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: arashi]
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anybody want to touch my bum?




can i use my foot?

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#124807 - 09/03/04 07:16 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: coleman]
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4+ huh? wanna tell us how?

actually ive been after this, but only getting it by isolating the airwrap.

T
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#124808 - 09/03/04 08:14 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: [Nx?]]
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multibeats...
(at least 15 beats a second on this post )



if you'se in town soon thomas i'll show ya a few different was to get easy multi beat stuff. and attempt badly to show you how to get difficult multibeat stuff.

but arashi surely not EVERY one of your wraps is 10+ beats... cause after all that would be dull...

R
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#124809 - 10/03/04 05:39 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: bluecat]
simian Offline
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Registered: 11/10/02
Loc: London
multipass?

multibeat airwraps are techier than Techno MacTechie the Technical Technologists

but how are they relevant in this thread about btb hyperloops?

And wouldn't tangled suicide descriptions be better placed in mr [Nx?]'s Suicide thread?

you are all very naughty Bene-Gesserit sockwobblers

You discuss your spanky new techmoves and how boedicea-acious they are, hidden in a supertechy thread about something entirely different, and without the slightest cryptic clue as to how you might achieve them!!!

its enough to put people right off poi and make them play with actual girls instead...

SO i'm going to start a multibeat airwrap thread, say lots of stuff thats wrong, and wait for you lot to come correct me. ok?


Edited by simian (10/03/04 05:43 AM)
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#124810 - 24/03/04 01:47 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: simian]
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Have been mulling this thread over for awhile now.

Got down afew of the recent ideas ie btb suicides, but just trying different combos and variations of btb airwraps, and iv come up with alot of "new" stuff... to much to really get into right now... but for a taste, there are some nice btb waist wrap airwraps out there, I'm also feeling some nice combinations.

Airwrap front wallplane, into airwrap w/w, into airwrap corkscrew (aka airwrap fountain most likely). *i concider w/w to be btb wallplane(side on)* though that should be in another thread *the airwraps im talking are *weave/ corkscrew airwraps* as defined in earlier post.

Also airwrapping into a wrist thruwrap(both chains), un wrap and then un airwrap... but on alot of different planes. I'll get back with some decent btb uta, and waist wrap details when i have more time and (umm the right words if i ever find them).

Pretty much still trying to get my head around afew of the last posts. Some nice ideas

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#124811 - 24/03/04 04:39 AM Re: Ninja'z and Btb hyperloops [Re: Dragon7]
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Airwrap front wallplane, into airwrap w/w, into airwrap corkscrew (aka airwrap fountain most likely).





wouldnt that need be a airwrap windmill... you can do 2 different airwrap fountains.. the first is like a normal fountian only with an airwrap back, and and airwrap back over the shoulder to andairwrap back over the other shoulder, to an airwrap back forward.. the second consists of doing one airwrap and movinglike a buzzsaw fountian.. in the single wall plane.. you can do a whole fountain with a single airwrap if you catch the swtichover between the sides at the 12:00 and 6:00 positions right.. otherwise you'll have to re aiwrap ever time you cross one or the other..
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