#124295 - 21/11/03 06:50 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: [Nx?]]
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Classically British
Registered: 23/09/01
Loc: Epsom, Surrey, England
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I've been learning lots of foot glides and floats for use with my CJ, but you can put them into poi too. I don't think you can learn to dance with poi, you just learn poi for long enough that you're confident to switch off the poi part of your brain and just dance 
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#124296 - 27/11/03 12:05 PM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Durbs]
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Registered: 16/07/03
Loc: Paris, France, the armpit of e...
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i think dancing with poi is not essential, but it a plus. just doing figures gets boring. i think that with fire poi the slow and sensuel works good, if you catch my drift. i mean, on contrast with glowstick dancing, like those tekno turtles, in which the moves themselves can look like a dance, the wraps espescially, and the mind games. i would find that sort of stuff amazing to music, like timing wraps with beats and stalling when there is a build up to go mad when the sound comes crashing back im working on those the most at the moment, but i don't always have a beat to work to, because its too cold to poi outside, and my roommates are usually watching tv or working which makes it hard to put on pumping house music and dance around without being noticed. but, with time all will improve. im not much of a belly dancer, or a capoeira master. i like to swing and turn and do little fast steps and them long stretched ones. crouching down and tiptoeing is also cool, but its not like i have any dance steps, i let the poi drag me, and i let the music drag the poi 
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#124297 - 12/01/04 06:58 PM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Pele]
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Registered: 19/09/03
Loc: USA
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Quote:
These are the belly moves. Let me know if you would like Salsa, Flamenco, Hip-Hop, Ballroom, Go-Go or line dancing.... as I incorporate all these more "traditional" dance styles into my routines.
Would love to hear more about this, Pele... can you give us more details (unless of course, you can share some of it on video)?
We have tried some throws adapted from swing, and have utilized belly dancing, tango, some capoeira steps and kicks, moves that feel similar to ice skating (at least seem the same - I dont skate), african dance, etc. The ability/inclusion of level changes seems to help a lot in dancing with poi.
We also, while prepping for a group performance piece, worked a lot on interaction between people spinning and dancing, in a freeform style. We worked out a lot of ways to pass the poi back and forth (and all around), explored some great wraps on partners, two person butterfly's and weaves (one poi each or two poi in one hand), hugs of death, back to back turning weaves and all kinds of other stuff. It also helped immensly to have people without poi come and mischeviously play/dance with those spinning, which pushed the people with fire to move in new reactive and proactive ways, and for those without fire developed a lot more awareness of how to interact with the other person's fire in partner/group spinning interaction (suddenly those without poi were initiating surprise wraps  , etc.) Havent tried multi person throws yet...
Though these type of interactions dont neccesarily equal dancing with poi, they go a long way toward helping to facilitate it - good practice focusing on movement and interaction instead of technical moves, having attention split betweent them both, and bringing (forcing?) movement into the realm of feeling and flow instead of intellectualizing moves (you will know right away if you are thinking about what move to react/interact with, instead of interacting/reacting). And, I hadnt heard anyone mention multiple people dancing interactively here yet, so I wanted to throw this out there.
But I wanna hear about how you are incorporating hip hop and go-go ...
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#124298 - 13/10/04 12:47 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Kat]
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grumpy poorly froggy
Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
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just a question to see how many of you lot do or did dancing and how if at all do you incoropate poi with it? ballet etc
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#124299 - 13/10/04 03:28 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: GothFrogette]
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veteran
Registered: 26/08/03
Loc: Dublin, Ireland
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i'm not really a dancer, but i am learning to incorporate some of my tai chi moves into poi somewhat.....
it's great for your coordination, but i've no idea if it looks good. only ever practised it alone.....
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#124301 - 14/10/04 06:40 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: GothFrogette]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 30/05/03
Loc: Bristol
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i do english folk dancing and french - it works quite well.
if you go to a techno rave, just look at the people skipping on the spot and imagine them moving around, it's kind of like that. Except you don't move too far or you lose the people you were with.
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#124303 - 16/10/04 02:55 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Kat]
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Registered: 28/11/02
Loc: wishing to be in Rio
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I have always found personally, that dancing and poi are inseparable. Who here hasn´t found themselves on a dancefloor and kinda visualising poi movements as you dance?
I agree with what has been said before - its a matter of listening to the music, or feeling your own natural rhythm if you´re not listening to music and let thm moves just flow into each other.
It is really noticable those who dance,and those who do series of tricks. Both are watchable and entertaining, but dancing is so much more aesthetically pleasing - and in my opinion more enjoyable.
close your eyes and move.
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#124306 - 17/10/04 10:47 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Richee]
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grumpy poorly froggy
Registered: 10/10/04
Loc: Nuneaton
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#124307 - 17/10/04 08:51 PM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: GothFrogette]
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Former Raver Invader... Not sure what i am now...
Registered: 28/09/04
Loc: Southern California, USA
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to poirob2... i am the oldschool straighting master. That's old school skating, WHILE stringing... me and a friend of mine got boozed up and were doing it at some park for hours... then the popo 5-0 came and did the whole "you kids need to go home... NOOOOWW!"
then about a week later(under the same blood alcohol circumstances) i was doing it on a friends board in front of a bank.... then i fell... and it hurt...
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#124310 - 21/10/04 05:36 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Kat]
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If its got pistons or boobs, its gonna be expensive...
Registered: 21/10/04
Loc: Cyprus
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When i spin - Eyes are closed, hair is wet and i go go metal lol! drunken master all the way me thinks...let your arms be pulled by the direction of the poi an use the legs to quickly catch your balence due to the nose diving skull lol!
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#124311 - 24/10/04 02:12 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Kat]
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newbie
Registered: 24/10/04
Loc: Dallas, Texas
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#124312 - 24/10/04 02:14 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Toke]
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newbie
Registered: 24/10/04
Loc: Dallas, Texas
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#124313 - 24/10/04 11:11 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Mistress Aurora]
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newbie
Registered: 24/10/04
Loc: Dallas, Texas
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I incorporate dancing and any type of liquid type danceing into my fire poi shows, and when I am just spinning glowsticks on strings as well. I am from the Dallas party scene and considered 1 of the original party kids and old school kandie kids that help get the scene started when it was going nowhere. Everyone in the party scene here knows me, and or has heard of me. I was the first person to spin fire in the scene here as well.
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#124315 - 25/01/08 01:59 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: DJ Dantana]
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Poi junkie
Registered: 06/12/05
Loc: In your face!
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Coming from a dance background, I feel it has helped my spinning no-end. Having a strong knowledge of Ballet & modern dance has helped me develope style and grace into my spinning. But more recently I have been Tap dancing with Poi just to see what is possible. A friend of mine also does Tap & Poi and we had great fun with this. Wings & maxi fords are both possible- and a great way of adding extra beats! Since I have seen lot's of other stuff done with poi such as stilts, acro, rollerskates etc, I was wondering if anyone else has tried poi & tap or has seen this done before?
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#124316 - 26/01/08 02:31 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Bernie_Flame]
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Pinker than thou
Registered: 04/05/06
Loc: A little pink world all my own...
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Written by: BernieFlame
I was wondering if anyone else has tried poi & tap or has seen this done before?
What's the gaucho (? maybe) thing with the clacking poi(-like swingy things with metal weights) on the ground as you tap that Cirque du Soleil had in Saltimbanco called?
That was/is tap and poi at the same time (though the poi moves were *very* limited -parallel circles in and out of time and 2 and 3 beat weave is pretty much all I remember- even in the Soleil show)
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#124318 - 26/01/08 06:25 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Bernie_Flame]
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Pinker than thou
Registered: 04/05/06
Loc: A little pink world all my own...
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#124319 - 26/01/08 06:57 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: PinkNigel]
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Member
Registered: 03/01/08
Loc: South Of The Swan, West Oz.
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Wow...that was pretty cool.
As a bellydancer venturing into Poi, I will be blending my poi and bellydance..I already have some 'routines' in mind, just have to learn and get fluent in the poi moves...
Ordinarily when I've been practicing my poi I use upbeat music and just let the music take over.
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#124320 - 26/01/08 04:02 PM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: AmaraO]
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Carpal \'Tunnel
Registered: 31/03/03
Loc: Perth
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Theres a group in USA who use "voi". A combo of veil and poi as they put it. Will send you a linkie. Jeds used flags with dancers before but more as a spinner not dancer.
Remind me to have a look at my silk flags.
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#124321 - 27/01/08 01:41 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Gnor]
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Member
Registered: 03/01/08
Loc: South Of The Swan, West Oz.
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I have Veil Poi already Gnor :-)
Thats why all the silk  I've been making the veils :-)
Edited by AmaraO (27/01/08 11:26 AM)
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You also tilt when you should withdraw, and that is Knightly too. Rest In Peace, Heath.
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#124322 - 27/01/08 02:17 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: AmaraO]
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Poi junkie
Registered: 06/12/05
Loc: In your face!
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wonderful video. Although the poi and tap skills were pretty basic, it is very entertaining. Thanks 4 that.x
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#124323 - 01/02/08 09:53 AM
Re: dancing with poi
[Re: Bernie_Flame]
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1 + 1 = 3
Registered: 31/08/04
Loc: Bristol UK
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the cirque thing is/are called boleadoras.
I mix poi and popping/boogaloo.
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