WEAVE...what AM I doing wrong???

Some wall plane things from clubs swinging that I’m starting to use with poi in side plane. They may be of interest.

You really only need to use enough energy to keep the poi spinning i.e. they should almost spin with their own momentum.

For outward circles in wall plane you keep your hand/wrist close to the hip when coming from behind to in-front,; increase momentum at the bottom of the circle when coming from behind to in-front.

For inward circles in wall plane you keep your hand/wrist close to the hip when coming from in-front to behind; increase momentum at the top of the circle when coming from in-front to behind.

I’m at work with not even a ruler to play with, so I hope I got that around the right way. Will check later anyhow.

Cheers

Some wall plane things from clubs swinging that I’m starting to use with poi in side plane. They may be of interest.

You really only need to use enough energy to keep the poi spinning i.e. they should almost spin with their own momentum.

For outward circles in wall plane you keep your hand/wrist close to the hip when coming from behind to in-front; increase momentum at the bottom of the circle when coming from behind to in-front.

For inward circles in wall plane you keep your hand/wrist close to the hip when coming from in-front to behind; increase momentum at the top of the circle when coming from in-front to behind.

I’m at work with not even a ruler to play with, so I hope I got that around the right way. Will check later anyhow.

Cheers

Woo-hoo I can weave

Thanks to spiralx and onewheeldave for some great tips; spiralx's explanation is very close to the way the weave is shown on the Art Of Poi DVD.

Having done the "over, under, out" routine to death and had the DVD looping on slo-mo for what seemed like forever, I was still having problems getting it going and this seems to be a problem with the weave for some other people, too - finding their own comfortable starting point - everybody seems to have their own to beging with.

So I referred back to a little video I shot the other week, of a girl who's explanation of how she did the weave was very clear and that was the key - simply by copying her starting point, I suddenly found myself weaving. Now I'm starting to slow it down and bring it in closer. I also often practice with eyes shut, just to take in the feel and balance of a new move, while I feel for ways to take it into something else.

oooh, this might be just what i need.

i got my poi about four days ago, and some very kind person at leeds festial outside the radio one tent taught me to 3 beat weave (althought just by reading this thread i have realised that that was what i'm doing!)

i want to learn it "backwards" but i'm a little confused.
am i right in thinking that to do it backwards the arm movements dont really change, but the poi just go the opposite way....

it's been bugging me all day and i only get an hour for lunch which is not enough time for me to work it out in...

Any thoughts would be appreciated!

Hi!

I want to say thank you for all you guys giving me so many good advices to learn weave. Especially the link: www.calefaction.org/teach/weave.html was really useful (even the video didn't work). anyway, because of all tips, now I got the idea how to make weave. It looks really funny, and I keep hitting myself, but I'm so happy finally to get it somehow

thats cool i'll try that tonight...

i think i've sort of got it but i'm not too sure...

to do it backwards which way are they ment to be going? do the poi just go in the same shape only in reverse (this sounds stupid)

like instead of going down they go up as they cross? because thats sort of how i've been trying it....

Yes, they scoop up as they cross and the under beat on the opposite site happens before the over beat, it is literally a rewind of a weave.

aha! thank you!!

i am trying to do it right then! i sort of got it last night, but the strings on my poi kept geting wrapped round each other!

just practice practice practice now then until i get it spot on!

thanks so much for the help, at least i know i'm trying to do it right and not wasting time trying something that is impossable!!

cheers!

I usually spin during my lunch hour and i'm teaching some of the lads at work and dave is right. Slow your moves down and get the technique.
It will also help when you transition from one move to another.
Excelent technique should look like Tai Chi with poi and after that you can speed it up and have fun.

i tend to practice pretty slowly anyway, (due to most of my practicing being in the pub i work in when it's quite!)

the problem with spinning on my lunch is that my office is quite old fashioned with regards to the people that work there and is very image concious, so having little me spinning in the car park makes me feel uneasy! lol!

i work in halifax though and usualy go spin in the peace hall.

its terrably embarasing having people watching you take yourself out with a poi to the back of the head!!

i need some help
i am trying to learn weave which i can do by using the stick method but when i go to do it with my sock poi it just goes into a big crossover
i need some tips big time on cracking this move its killing me cuz i wanna learn it and its just not happening.

any pointers,tips advice is welcome

when I have a problem with a move, I get a mirror. So you can do it with sticks...go slow and watch. then, maybe one stick and one poi...

The one poi method can be very helpful...I like to start with my weak hand

Flaming fire, First things first-

Can you spin a 2 beat weave?

Notice how one hand always crosses over the other (probably your right if you're right handed)

Now practice spinning so your other hand crosses over the top each time.

Once you've got that, put one poi down.

Practise this pattern, I'm going to call it your right poi for ease, but it is the exact same pattern, with your left hand, just substitute every left for every right and visa versa.

Spin one circle on the poi's own side, (right). As the poi comes down in front of you, cross it over your body to spin 2 circles on your left side as follows... the first circle your right hand crosses over your left arm, during the second circle your right hand crosses under your left arm. And then as the poi comes up in front of you, you go back to spinning the one circle on your right side.

Think in your head, 1, over, under, 1, over, under etc.

Ok, learn that with your left hand now.

Then with both poi...

its easiest to start with your right poi spinning and your left poi stopped. Spin 1 circle by your right side, and then the over circle by your left. As the poi comes up in the over circle, start spinning your left poi, its making the one circle on its own side, the right then spins its under circle before following the left poi over to the right side. The left poi will always lead when switching to the right side, and the right poi will always lead when switching over to the left side.

Hope that helps, good luck with it!