Wrist Clicking

hmm arashi has made a great post!!!

Only thing for me to add is: There are teas that are more no-no than others, as they draw more liquid from the body than others. I experienced black and green tea to have this effect.

And what I personally advise here (and have to write on top of my very own list) is the proper consumption of water every day!!!

Varies by individual and circumstances (when you are working in an airconditioned/ heated environment, anything with dry air, or the opposite extreme - anything that pulls liquid from your body), but it's believed to a minimum of 3 litres/day... of course the body also extracts the liquid from the food you eat. Some foods are taking more liquid from your system than others (for example rice more than noodles).

The moister you keep your body, the longer it's juicy *gg*

I play the drums and my wrists have been really crunchy in the past but it's more or less sorted now. I put it down to omega 3 oil capsules (cod liver or similar) and my powerball . Powerballs are great for anyone with wrist and forearm trouble. They're a way of exercising really gently, with no big movements so there's no strain, but you can feel it really working the muscles. This builds strength without the joint taking a beating. I know a drummer who used to have tendonitis so bad that he couldn't move his hand out of a stick-holding position. He sorted it with cod liver oil and altering the way he played. Drumming transfers quite easil to spinning, so looking at the way you spin is probably a good idea too, making sure you don't strain the joints in 5 beat weaves and such. Stretching's good too; I tried googling for some good wrist stretches but to little avail. Climbing centres are full of advice on this though, so it's worth finding your nearest wall and going in for a word.

When I went to have my back checked out at the Chiropractors, I also had my wrists looked at because they're able to click and I'm able to touch the underside of my forearm with my fingers ON the same arm/hand... I can probably bring it down further so my palm is almost flat against it, but I dont wanna try that seeing as I was warned not to do it again.

Anyway, the chiropractor's advice was to get one of those squash/stress balls, and to try and crush it in your hand repeatedly until you tire of it in order to strengthen the muscles there, he was also saying to try and keep it up. Just have a ball near your computer and whenever you're not doing anything, just pick it up and do the exercise. He said that doing that will probably stop the clicking.

... I havent gotten a stress ball yet to try it on, lol. I can be rather lazy sometimes... o.O

~ Neser

I been thinkin bout going & seeing a chiropracter for my back it's gettin well bad lately, are they any good?

i take glucosamine tablets for joint repair - i do tend to feel an improvement!
doesn't taste as nice as vegemite tho...

Physical therapists are much better than chiros. Much more school and a better understanding of musculoskeletal problems (since they study more than just the bones- imagine that!)- at least in the USA, don't know about other countries.

Anyways, about wrist clicking- is it painful? Painful clicking is something to be worried about and seek medical advice (REAL medical advice, not a chiro, try a hand specialist in the realm of an orthopedic surgeon or physical therapist.

Non-painful clicking- usually a sign of hypermobility (lots of movement at the joints). Are you a generally flexible person? Usually strengthening will help, like the gyroball. I would also recommend wrist curls (take a light weight and curl your wrist palm up) and reverse wrist curls (same thing, but palm down). Try to balance the strength between your wrist flexors (the non-hairy side of your forearm, usually stronger) and extensors. Hope this helps.

BTW, caffiene does NOT cause tendonitis. Take it from someone who has had and gotten over it.

fish oil is great for joint problems, too (its also good for your skin, hair, and brain (and other things besides...!)...!

and reading the extent of this thread, i see its been spoken of before. but that was 4 years ago. so :P

acupuncture helps, too.

massive!

Thank you so much! I was totally depressed about getting tendonitis, but this post has given me some hope for a speedy recovery. It sucks to be organising gigs for a fire troupe and not being able to participate we just got loads of new glow-performace toys too. thanks again and wish me luck on my new recovery regime!

As a martial artist I'd say cod-liver oil and glucosamine is a great supplement for healthy joints, to be taken daily, it takes a month or two before any effect would be noticed though.

other important thing is lots of anti-oxidants, fruit, green tea, black tea's not as high as green, and putting milk in apparently kills the benefit.

All humans are basically lactose intolerant at some level so don't overdo the milk in general.

lots of fresh fish is always good, it's good for your brain too apparently.

a low gluten diet helps too, less bread, more rice etc.

It's not that I'm advocating Japanese/Chinese diet, it just does actually work very well for staying fit and healthy into a ripe old age

Breads bad? Toasties are essentially one of my major food groups at the moment :/

I'm also going to go to one of the skater shops and buy a wrist brace. If my wriist doesnt get better by the end of term, I'm seeing an acupuncturist!

EDIT: The best the skate shop could offer me was this HUGE piece of body armour - a monstrosity - i'm going to improvise one with a bandage and a metal ruler - the student way

So after a month my wrist is better, yay! 3 weeks of wearing a wrist brace (pushing a heavy door without it usually hurt me ...gah I'm a pansy) then 1 week of spinning staff with my wrist-brace securely attatched, it's all paid off.

I wasn't willing to change my diet (I'm abusing my fast metabolism while I can!) either, I did get a powerball gyro thing, it's a cool toy, but I don't know if u sing it helped or not.

Anyhow, from now on I'm going to wear my wrist brace when performing, and I'm going to get a second brace for my other hand as well. It seems I can still do all the moves I could do before, but I can do them without bending my wrists - for example, if I do a snake, or a multi-beat figure-of-8 with my staff, my whole arm twists, instead of just my wrists. Less pretty for performances, but I'd rather not have arthritis by 25!

The brace I got was £13 from boots - pricey! But you can't put a price on your health can you?

But yes, for spinning staff at least, I'd recommend to anyone that they protect your wrists! I was really scared I wouldn't be able to spin again, I'm so happy that I'm ok now!

hmmmm *wonders how i got to the poi section of the boards*

interesting thread though, i'd rate it.

my joints go a bit funny when i bring the poi out after britsh winter. I dont want to use poi in the house. Do u use ur poi loads

coz if u dont it mite be cos u wrists need to get back into the swing of things

I do spin staff in winter (sorry this is in the poi forum but i didn't want to create the same topic under staff spinning!)

Yes, I've always tried to spin at least every other day, outside of term time (in term i can only manage twice a week) . Yeah I totally agree with you that spinning after not-spinning for a long period does do strange things to your joints.

I went to Kalahari in London briefly, and before the guys started spinning there, they were warming up as if they were about to go on a triathlon! Very amusing to watch, and I tried to copy them, and I guess there was method behind the madness ... they seemed perfectly healthy!

never underestimate the benefits of a good warmup: it just feels better!

also worth a look: a documentary on skill toys and health made with Meenik

http://www.playpoi.com/skilltoys4health

ye gd warm up wud be good idea

I get tendonitist in my right wrist from spinning.

However, over the last couple of months I've been really watching that wrist and where it's positioned in moves and transitions, and I found that I rotatate it too much inside my moves... kind of like overclocking it.

the more I work on that, the less my wrist hurts.

hope that helps

I had some wrist problems in the past whilst spinning, as mentioned a good warm up is always the best.

This past year saw that my left Carpel Scafoid was fractured in 3 places from an road traffic accident i had back in May, this saw me off work for 4 months... a good end to all poi and juggling .
It is only until now that my wrist is building up more strength, rather than jumping right back into the swing of things (mind the pun there) i have tried to use my hand in positions that would normally occur whilst spinning or juggling but there was still pain and discomfort.

This morning i tried a simple 3 ball mills mess with oranges as i was clearing the table after lunch, and for the first time no discomfort, maybe now having had a long gap i can pick up on my journey of poi and juggling.

Any one have any advice on LOCKED FINGERS? , i'm a metals finisher by trade these days (i clean and polish metal things for mega yatchs such as hand rails etc) i am to the understanding that it is the vibrations and nerves that give me this problem.
It is onlyevery morning i wake up with my hands in a clenched ball/fist. Its not painful to straighten them out, it was to start but now they dont hurt, it is just that they dont straighten with out me having to do it with the aid of some thing, once they are back in the normal position, they are fine again so therefore should not interfere with poi or juggling unless im trying to do it in my sleep.

any thoughts