Time does not exist. In theory, everything with a beginning has an end. Therefore, only things with an end can have a beginning. As time has no end, it has no beginning, therefore does not exist. GO PHILOSOPHY!!!
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I’m talking from own experience, when I say I honestly can’t imagine how anyone can tackle the ego on their own. With out help or guidance, this task seems impossible. I know some people must have done this on their own, so there must be some amazing people out there.
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I had an enlightening experience once, it wore off after a couple of days, and seems more like a drug now.
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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Just right, but you called for moving on first.
Back to topic: To me, there are philosophies that got turned into religions. Buddhism is one of them.
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Animism (from Latin anima, "soul".) is the belief that souls inhabit all or most objects. Animism attributes personalized souls to animals, vegetables, and minerals wherein the material object is—to some degree—governed by the qualities which compose its particular soul. Animistic religions generally do not accept a sharp distinction between spirit and matter, and they generally assume that this unification of matter and spirit plays a role in daily life.
Animism may also be understood as the belief that "the world is a sacred place and humans belong in such a world". From this point of view, animism may be considered diametrically opposed to the viewpoint of most major religions. All of the long standing, "major" historical civilized religions describe the earth as either a place of inevitable suffering (Buddhist) or sin (Christian), and as something to escape or transcend. This is overly simplified but nevertheless highlights the difference from the view that the world is sacred and humans belong here.
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OWD...well done on the top tips post.
That reads more like a common sense discourse on how to deal with spirituality than anything else and you identify THE key factor when it comes to living with spirituality....the matter of degree.
There's a "scale" of commitment to belief, with most people being on the 'workable' end of that scale. That is to say, their belief systems are tolerable to atheists like me...funny, but tolerable.
I'd also like to raise the issue of the meaning of the word spirituality. It's one of those words that's been kicked around that it's pretty much meaningless unless translated to directly mean belief in something other than what we experience in the material world. For instance, what id someone describes themselves as being spiritual, yet not religious ? How would you interpret a statement like that ?
It might mean that they have an inkling that "there's something out there", not God, per se, but something that maybe through some kind of dogma that can be accessed for "guidance" either in this world or the next. Or, it might mean that someone is afraid to admit, or even consider the idea that "this is it" what you see is what you get...Or it just might be a social thing, a want for respect by displaying the trappings of esoteric knowledge.
Or...something I haven't thought of.
So where's the "spiritual" component of Buddhism ? I've been looking for it for years. Sure Buddhists have temples, and neato costumes, and incense, and dogma. But where's the "higher powers" ?
Sometimes, in passing reference, I hear people refer to Buddhist "deities" like Goddesses, ( eg. Taras ) but any research I do on the topic paints these deities more as symbols for Buddhist ideals rather than the stereotypical otherworldly being that we usually identify as a God.
It's the lack of "real" Gods, along with the assertions of practicing Buddhists that Buddhism is not a religion that cause me to classify Buddhism as a philosophy rather than a religion and value it's teachings as such.
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Then again, we all have encountered people following the solo path, who, despite being convinced that they are making great spiritual progress, are clearly misguided.
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the best smiles are the ones you lead to
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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Then again, we all have encountered people following the solo path, who, despite being convinced that they are making great spiritual progress, are clearly misguided.
How would you define "clearly (misguided)"?
1) "Habit modification/ drug dependency"
What criteria would you apply to those, whose lives depend on the intake of "drugs" like insulin? [disclaimer: there is another multitude of mind altering drugs too, who the individual could depend on].
Are you merely referring to "recreational drug abuse"?
Are you condoning "ascetism" being the essential path of Buddhism, when Buddha has clearly determined this NOT to be the path (even though it has been part of his own).
1a) Would you agree that the primary focus should be on the impacts, rather on the circumstances under which insights are conducted?
2) "Enlightenment"
What is this term to your definition?
5) "be aware (..) that the impetuous to spirituality is (..) simply a facing-up-to the fact that you have some issues."
What you mean by that?
6) "When 'spirituality' is directed outwards (..) things can go very wrong"
Which is why I generally oppose organized groups.
Now would you generally agree that there is a lot of "renaming" going on in "current spirituality"?
Like claiming that "Buddhism is a way of life" rather than a religion? (and in context referring to "religions generally being in need of a deity or higher being" to worship and pretending that Buddha is not acting as such a deity (to the general public, which is then claimed not to have profound knowledge of Buddhism)
I guess we're straight on topic with all this...
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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in Hinduism - "Moksha": liberation from the cycle of death and rebirth and all of the suffering and limitation of worldly existence (...) liberation is experienced in this very life as a dissolution of the sense of self as an egoistic personality by which the underlying, eternal, pure spirit is uncovered (...) Liberation is achieved by (and accompanied with) the complete stilling of all passions — a state of being known as Nirvana. Buddhist thought differs slightly from the Advaita Vedantist reading of liberation.
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in Buddhism - "Nirvana": a word used by the Buddha to describe the perfect peace of the mind that is free from craving, anger and other afflictive states (kilesa). This peace, which is in reality the fundamental nature of the mind, is revealed when the root causes of the afflictive states are dissolved. The causes themselves (see sankhara) lie deep within the mind (that part of the mind that Western psychology calls the unconscious) but their undoing is gradually achieved by living a disciplined life (see eightfold path). (...) Buddhist scholar, Prof. Herbert Guenther, states of Nirvana: "The notion of Nirvana is a transcendental postulate, which can only be proven psychologically/subjectively, not scientifically. Yet all highest and final goals lead towards it; indeed, it appears even to constitute the very commencement of the entire spiritual life (...) With the reaching of Nirvana the Path has come to its end and reached its goal. The Self-realisation which was striven after and which here becomes Reality, signifies the ideal personality, the true human being." The Buddha in the Dhammapada says of nirvana that it is "the highest happiness". This happiness is rather an enduring, transcendental happiness integral to the calmness attained through enlightenment or bodhi, than the happiness of blindful entertainment. In Jainism, it means final release from the karmic bondage.
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in Jainism - "Moksa": means liberation, salvation or emancipation of soul. It is a blissful state of existence of a soul, completely free from the karmic bondage, free from samsara, the cycle of birth and death. A liberated soul is said to have attained its true and pristine nature of infinite bliss, infinite knowledge and infinite perception. Such a soul is called siddha or paramatman and considered as supreme soul or God. In Jainism, it is the highest and the noblest objective that a soul should strive to achieve. In fact, it is the only objective that a person should have; other objectives are contrary to the true nature of soul. With right faith, knowledge and efforts all souls can attain this state. That is why, Jainism is also known as mokṣamārga or the “path to liberation”.
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
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If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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I have a lot of faith in my judgements- I base them on 40 years life-experience and a great deal of honest thought- and, I tend to speak and judge only those things that I feel I had put a lot of work into understanding.
If that makes me, in your eyes, 'arrogant' then so be it- that's a judgement you make
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Claiming that those, who regard Buddhism as a religion, have no (sufficient) understanding and knowledge of it - now you will have to excuse my wording - appears incredibly arrogant.
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re·li·gion
1. a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
2. a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.
3. the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.
4. the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.
5. the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.
6. something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.
7. religions, Archaic. religious rites.
8. Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow.
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A religion is a set of beliefs and practices often organized around supernatural and moral claims, and often codified as prayer, ritual, and religious law. Religion also encompasses ancestral or cultural traditions, writings, history, and mythology, as well as personal faith and mystic experience. The term "religion" refers to both the personal practices related to communal faith and to group rituals and communication stemming from shared conviction.
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religion, a system of thought, feeling, and action that is shared by a group and that gives the members an object of devotion; a code of behaviour by which individuals may judge the personal and social consequences of their actions; and a frame of reference by which individuals may relate to their group and their universe. Usually, religion concerns itself with that which transcends the known, the natural, or the expected; it is an acknowledgement of the extraordinary, the mysterious, and the supernatural. The religious consciousness generally recognizes a transcendent, sacred order and elaborates a technique to deal with the inexplicable or unpredictable elements of human experience in the world or beyond it.
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A human being is a part of the whole, called by us, "Universe," a part limited in time and space. He experiences himself, his thoughts and feelings as something separated from the rest - a kind of optical delusion of his consciousness.
This delusion is a kind of prison for us, restricting us to our personal desires and to affection for a few persons nearest to us. Our task must be to free ourselves from this prison by widening our circle of compassion to embrace all living creatures and the whole of nature in its beauty.
Nobody is able to achieve this completely, but the striving for such achievement is in itself a part of the liberation and a foundation for inner security (Albert Einstein).
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
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Dave - "everyone does it" (judging) is not a rational or valid justification for any practice. Many ppl claim(ed) to have sound, rational and experienced judgement... You will have to excuse my cynicism, but Roland Freisler has been one of them. The world is full of ppl who claim the right to judge. It surprises me, that you - as a Buddhist - justify it with "everyone does it"...
See - in my world there is no ultimate "right and wrong" and there is no conclusive "judgement" on an individual. I observe my mind to quickly classify, but that only is it's purpose. I did ask you once on your stance towards death penalty, but you failed to provide a response. I asked on other occasions where - as a person and a Buddhist - you derive your (strong) judgements from, now I receive an answer. Apart from other things that you say (and which make sense to me), these are the moments where I can't *feel* you...
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"Last of The Lancers"
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