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Mr Majestik


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Location: home of the tiney toothy bear

Total posts: 45
Posted:Do spinning need stars, masteres, idols, icons or legends ?
Do spinning need someone to look up to ?
Do you have one ?
Would you tell ?
Would you tell why ?
Do you thing the aswer is no ?
Can you tell why ?
Do you think something else ?

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Fine_Rabid_Dog


Internet Hate Machine
Location: They seek him here, they seek ...

Total posts: 10530
Posted:inb4 Robert Heart

The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

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Rouge Dragon
BRONZE Member since Jul 2003

Rouge Dragon

Insert Champagne Here
Location: without class distinction, Aus...

Total posts: 13215
Posted:Using your choice of word, "heroes" - no.

Mentors, respected community members and people to look up to - yes.


i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...

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Pyrolific
BRONZE Member since Jan 2001

Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium
Location: Adelaide, South Australia

Total posts: 3289
Posted:I think the idolisation of certain high profile spinners visually present in many youtube videos is counter productive to the art as a whole.

'having been influenced by' is different from 'trying to be exactly like'.


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Mr Majestik


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Location: home of the tiney toothy bear

Total posts: 45
Posted:Agree Rouge, but I think spinning is facing business more than before. Pyro, this is different problem, but it's close.

JD


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Sister Eleven
GOLD Member since Aug 2009

Sister Eleven

owner of the group property
Location: Seattle, WA, USA

Total posts: 1277
Posted:Well, I differentiate idolization and pure immitation. You can have either without the other. Obviously we don't need people put on pedestals, in poi or elsewhere, but there's no reason not to recognize performers who have pushed you to think about poi differently, or opened up a whole realm of technique, or who just show the beauty and potential of the prop.

I would say G and Ronan are poi heroes of mine (though not the only two). Both did things I'd never seen before and did it well, and they opened up a lot of stuff for me. I don't particularly want to spin like them either since there's stuff they don't do much of that I quite like. They're people I can watch and always find something new and inspiring.


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merku


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Total posts: 7
Posted:I think Nick Woolsey is one of that "Poi-Heroes" and there are a lot of spinners i realy respect smile
Maybe i get one of those respected spinners in a few years, timne will show

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agrovent


agrovent

Farmer Poi
Location: Brazil

Total posts: 11
Posted:While i agree, the word hero might not be the best, there are people who stand out in the internet community (usualy but not exclusively on youtube), and who contribute in what i perceive as a meaningful and possitive way. These people help to network between spinners, popularize spinning, produce toys, organize events, teach classes, etc...
A few of them, i end up thinking of as heroes- but i try to keep them in the realm of rolemodels and inspiration.

Nick Woolsey and the crew at Playpoi for example, have produced a series of instructional videos of a quality that is, in my opinion, unparalleled. I learned everything i know about the "dance" aspects of poi from the free content on their website.

if it hadnt been for Nick, Joff (joffjk), and a handful of others who post free instructional material online, i would never have had access to Poi where i live... so, yea, thats my "why"


"...It's worth it, to get to spend my life doing what makes me happy and sharing something real with people, in the midst of all the falseness around."

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Pikaluk
GOLD Member since Nov 2011

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Location: , Canada

Total posts: 14
Posted:The way I see it, spinning fire is an art form. Everyone has their own styles and skills and ways to do things. It's not about comparison. Ive spun fire with a lot of people and have not seen anyone spin the same way or do the same tricks as everyone else. Everyone is different.

Also, you could practice all day every day and think you have mastered fire spinning only to go on YouTube to find someone else who knows different styles and different moves that can put yours to shame. It's the blessing and the curse of the Internet.


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synndarella
PLATINUM Member since Aug 2007

synndarella

member
Location: Somerset, United Kingdom

Total posts: 61
Posted:People to look up to and aspire to, yeah. I doubt everyone needs that, because I think some of us are natural leaders, natural explorers, so a hero' or whatever word you use, will just be nonsense to them.
But for me, spinning in my back garden with no dreams of being a performer, its really just play to me. I am the audience really~ Much like I would copy dance routines off the TV as a kid for fun, I now copy poi moves of the internet for fun~

There are so many that stand out but because of the quality of production, the friendly and accessible nature of them, Playpoi always come to mind first. I'm glad it is them because they there is little mystery about them, they are not aloof or anything like that and they WANT to share everything they figure out.
You actually feel part of something, that in truth will only ever be my back yard.


Sometimes you're ahead, sometimes you're behind. The race is long and in the end, it's only with yourself~

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ShadowlessTyger
DIAMOND Member since Jan 2011

ShadowlessTyger

Flow Artist
Location: USA

Total posts: 67
Posted:Do spinning need stars, masteres, idols, icons or legends ?
- No, it is an art for individuals to express themselves.

Do spinning need someone to look up to ?
- You should always have someone to look up to and gain inspiration from.

Do you have one ?
- Yes, Several Actually.

Would you tell ?
- Carenza Bint Asya, Brain Shank & Jerry Hatcher of Phoenix Fire Productions, USA.

Would you tell why ?
- Because I have met them personally and communicate with them on occasion. Having an idol without ever communicating with them does not give me personal satisfaction as when I complete something and there is someone who can actually give me their opinion.

Do you think something else ?
- Spinning doesn't need heros, but it does need a community of people, some better than others for each member to contribute and excel the art so that it may spread and grow.


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This Jaded Flesh
SILVER Member since Oct 2009

This Jaded Flesh

One soul is as good as another...
Location: England, Durham

Total posts: 323
Posted:It doesn't need legends, but it's just a natural part of the course that this art form, like any other, will have them. There are few in poi and object manipulation in general that really push the boundaries, but they exist and deserve the adoration they get. you could compare this whole thing to fine art like Picaso. There are students who emulate and dissect until they are ready to perform the art for themselves and develop their own style. then there is the Teachers who specialise in the technique of the art, but are not inherently masters of it. then there are the artists themselves like picaso. who push the boundaries and redefine what art is.

"I may lack virtue, but I'm penitent"

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Trybal Wolf
SILVER Member since Jul 2012

Trybal Wolf

Wolf Furry
Location: Earth, USA

Total posts: 517
Posted:Nick Woolsey and Burning Dan.

Burning Dan you are sorely missed by us all. Thank you so much for the legacy you left as one of the greatest flow spinners ever. I wish you were still among us. Rest in peace my friend, rest in peace.


I'd rather die on paws, than live on feet.

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