Forums > Technical Discussion > Having trouble with flowtoys/wraps.

Posted: 10th Feb 2012
Crystal cases should not prevent wraps too badly. Maybe get them solid with another set of poi (socks?) first?

Is it only one shackle? Seems a bit strange....

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"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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Posted: 11th Feb 2012
on the shackles (assuming you mean what i think you do) i have always had problems with them if you are doing orbitals they start to come undone when ever i spin i check every 4-5 minutes to see if they need to be tighten back up.

i have actually had one of my pro series led poi fly and and peg someone in the head at a rave. would love to find a better system to connect the poi

Posted: 13th Feb 2012
if there are "shackles" or swivels at the poi-head then they are not flowtoys rigs, we would never do that, we make all our connections as smooth as possible, as you can see on our crystalpoi here:
https://www.flowtoys.com/product.php?productid=74&cat=9&page=1
and our flowleashes as described in this video here:
https://www.flowtoys.com/pages.php?pageid=29#flowcordlaunch
HoP does sell our crystal cases and flowlights with other leashes, it sounds like that must be what you got, I personally couldn't more highly recommend our flowleashes for wraps. super silky smooth:
https://www.flowtoys.com/home.php?cat=37
HoP does not carry them yet, but we ship super fast too
may your leashes be as smooth as a flawless wrap ;D
--sean

find your flow...

Posted: 13th Feb 2012
by the sound of it i'd rebuild your rigs, swivels aren't necessary at the flowtoy end and the 'shakles' you mention i assume are quicklinks, which have no use on a flowtoys rig. look at some other setup options, my own setup is handle-swivel-colecord-crystal poi. minimum clunky hardware to get in the way

even chuck norris can't pin you down if your on fire