Paddington Bear
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Member Since: 19th Jan 2010
Total posts: 118
Posted:okay so im looking at putting a routine together for my first public burn and had an interesting thought. when looking at choreographing do you personally find music and fit the poi to it, or do you put the poi routine together and find music for it or finally do you go in with a number of poi combinations you want to use and use music to string them together?

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SpinnerofDetroit
SpinnerofDetroit

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Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:I personally do music that fits what you have a rough vision for, and then build it around that.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Location: Seattle, WA
Member Since: 3rd Aug 2009
Total posts: 1277
Posted:Most stuff on choreography I've seen says the dance comes first and should determine the music. I sympathize with this since I think a routine is about making the prop fascinating, and the music is about highlighting the structure of the routine. But personally I don't see any reason you can't start with the music if there's a song that particularly inspires good spinning.

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aston
aston

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Location: South Africa
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Posted:I tend to start with a variety of music, decide roughly what I am going for and then spin to each and see if it works. If it does, I narrow it down a bit more and choose a final song based on what I want to do with the poi.

Of course, part of spinning to each song is blocking out certain sequences that I want to use and seeing how and if they fit in.


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nico_Baeyens
nico_Baeyens

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Member Since: 18th Aug 2010
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Posted:for me first public burn all i could here was RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR oooooooohhhhh RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR *STALL* AAAAAAHHH RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Fire in our hearts, fire all around
We feel the breathing of the fire, we feel the spirit of the fire,
we hear the rhapsody of the fires wild flames

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SpinnerofDetroit
SpinnerofDetroit

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Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:Yeah that sounds about right laugh3

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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Dark_Dancer
Dark_Dancer

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Member Since: 7th Jan 2011
Total posts: 28
Posted:Music first definitely.

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discowraps
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Member Since: 20th May 2010
Total posts: 13
Posted:music then dance and find the tech that fits last

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Teamo
Teamo

Almost again
Location: Finland
Member Since: 22nd Dec 2009
Total posts: 124
Posted:Fully agreed with discowraps. As far as the audience is considered, techy moves have the least importance. Nobody but other spinners are going to appreciate them properly. So moves should come last. And the dance part will work best if you already have a piece of music to plan it out on.

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AmethystRain
AmethystRain

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Location: Minnesota United States
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Posted:I think I would have to agree with a few of the others here: When I was working as a performer at the local Fests out here, I always made sure to pick my music first. Once I had the music I knew I could move around nicely to, then I would choose with one of my toys to use. [:

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willworkforfoodjnr
willworkforfoodjnr

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Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
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Posted:It depends, but generally, while not the first thing I think about, the music is decided early on as it has a huge effect on the feel of the routine and how you move as a character: not something I want to start thinking about late on!

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Gary_Cifers
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Location: Guthrie, Oklahoma
Member Since: 4th Jul 2008
Total posts: 64
Posted:For me it's usually been about finding music that makes me wanna spin... I feel lost when i try spinning without music cause i have no rhythm/beat to go off of

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Tu Wahine
Tu Wahine

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Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 21st Feb 2012
Total posts: 39
Posted:How about you have a couple beats that you like, create some set movements to them, movements that compllment the music and then use whichever you feel like on the day.

Nui atu te mihi ki nga mahi o te po, nga waiata, nga poi, me nga haka taparahi.

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Ruze
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Location: Cheyenne, Wy
Member Since: 2nd Feb 2009
Total posts: 18
Posted:I usually just let the magic happen and improve based upon whatever song comes trough my ipod when i hit shuffle. Only twice have i tried to make a routine, but i picked a random song and built the routine from the song.

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Trybal Wolf
Trybal Wolf

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Location: Earth
Member Since: 3rd Jul 2012
Total posts: 517
Posted:I'm with Teamo. Only fellow spinners will appreciate the difficulty of some of the more techy poi moves. Anyone will appreciate the music though.

I'd rather die on paws, than live on feet.

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Man_in_the_mask
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Location: California
Member Since: 21st Aug 2012
Total posts: 130
Posted:i go music first everytime. if you have something in mind that you know you want to include in your routine before looking into the music, then you can just keep that in mind while looking through your music choices. for instance, i had a burn with a few friends where i knew ahead of time that i wanted to include a specific buzzsaw variant in the routine (partially because i wanted to scare 'em just a little bit. never the best idea to try and give your spotters a bit of a scare btw) so i found a song with characteristics that i could tailor that variant too and just planned around the rest of the song. in reality this tends to come down to personal prefference.
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seanjavu
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Member Since: 7th Aug 2004
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Posted:I think i will have to go with Music first then Poi/choreo.

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