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Paddington Bear
SILVER Member since Jan 2010

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Location: , England (UK)

Total posts: 118
Posted:okay so im looking at putting a routine together for my first public burn and had an interesting thought. when looking at choreographing do you personally find music and fit the poi to it, or do you put the poi routine together and find music for it or finally do you go in with a number of poi combinations you want to use and use music to string them together?

fire is alive. it lives and breathes. it consumes and destroys. but we control it and live with it, we are fire dancers

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SpinnerofDetroit
GOLD Member since Oct 2009

SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA

Total posts: 2280
Posted:I personally do music that fits what you have a rough vision for, and then build it around that.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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Sister Eleven
GOLD Member since Aug 2009

Sister Eleven

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Location: Seattle, WA, USA

Total posts: 1277
Posted:Most stuff on choreography I've seen says the dance comes first and should determine the music. I sympathize with this since I think a routine is about making the prop fascinating, and the music is about highlighting the structure of the routine. But personally I don't see any reason you can't start with the music if there's a song that particularly inspires good spinning.

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aston
SILVER Member since Dec 2007

aston

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Location: South Africa

Total posts: 4061
Posted:I tend to start with a variety of music, decide roughly what I am going for and then spin to each and see if it works. If it does, I narrow it down a bit more and choose a final song based on what I want to do with the poi.

Of course, part of spinning to each song is blocking out certain sequences that I want to use and seeing how and if they fit in.


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"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
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nico_Baeyens
SILVER Member since Aug 2010

nico_Baeyens

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Location: , Belgium

Total posts: 23
Posted:for me first public burn all i could here was RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR oooooooohhhhh RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR *STALL* AAAAAAHHH RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

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Fire in our hearts, fire all around
We feel the breathing of the fire, we feel the spirit of the fire,
we hear the rhapsody of the fires wild flames

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SpinnerofDetroit
GOLD Member since Oct 2009

SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA

Total posts: 2280
Posted:Yeah that sounds about right laugh3

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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Dark_Dancer


Dark_Dancer

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Total posts: 28
Posted:Music first definitely.

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discowraps
BRONZE Member since May 2010

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Location: USA

Total posts: 13
Posted:music then dance and find the tech that fits last

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Teamo
GOLD Member since Dec 2009

Teamo

Almost again
Location: Finland

Total posts: 124
Posted:Fully agreed with discowraps. As far as the audience is considered, techy moves have the least importance. Nobody but other spinners are going to appreciate them properly. So moves should come last. And the dance part will work best if you already have a piece of music to plan it out on.

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AmethystRain


AmethystRain

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Location: Minnesota United States

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Posted:I think I would have to agree with a few of the others here: When I was working as a performer at the local Fests out here, I always made sure to pick my music first. Once I had the music I knew I could move around nicely to, then I would choose with one of my toys to use. [:

Amethyst Rain


"It can't rain all the time..."

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willworkforfoodjnr
SILVER Member since Aug 2007

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Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire, ...

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Posted:It depends, but generally, while not the first thing I think about, the music is decided early on as it has a huge effect on the feel of the routine and how you move as a character: not something I want to start thinking about late on!

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Gary_Cifers
SILVER Member since Jul 2008

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Location: Guthrie, Oklahoma, USA

Total posts: 64
Posted:For me it's usually been about finding music that makes me wanna spin... I feel lost when i try spinning without music cause i have no rhythm/beat to go off of

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Tu Wahine


Tu Wahine

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Location: New Zealand

Total posts: 39
Posted:How about you have a couple beats that you like, create some set movements to them, movements that compllment the music and then use whichever you feel like on the day.

Nui atu te mihi ki nga mahi o te po, nga waiata, nga poi, me nga haka taparahi.

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Ruze
BRONZE Member since Feb 2009

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Location: Cheyenne, Wy, USA

Total posts: 18
Posted:I usually just let the magic happen and improve based upon whatever song comes trough my ipod when i hit shuffle. Only twice have i tried to make a routine, but i picked a random song and built the routine from the song.

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Trybal Wolf
SILVER Member since Jul 2012

Trybal Wolf

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Location: Earth, USA

Total posts: 517
Posted:I'm with Teamo. Only fellow spinners will appreciate the difficulty of some of the more techy poi moves. Anyone will appreciate the music though.

I'd rather die on paws, than live on feet.

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Man_in_the_mask
BRONZE Member since Aug 2012

specializes in the potentially insane
Location: California, USA

Total posts: 130
Posted:i go music first everytime. if you have something in mind that you know you want to include in your routine before looking into the music, then you can just keep that in mind while looking through your music choices. for instance, i had a burn with a few friends where i knew ahead of time that i wanted to include a specific buzzsaw variant in the routine (partially because i wanted to scare 'em just a little bit. never the best idea to try and give your spotters a bit of a scare btw) so i found a song with characteristics that i could tailor that variant too and just planned around the rest of the song. in reality this tends to come down to personal prefference.
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seanjavu
BRONZE Member since Aug 2004

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Location: , Singapore

Total posts: 4
Posted:I think i will have to go with Music first then Poi/choreo.

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