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VampyricAcid
VampyricAcid

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Posted:Kinda scared about starting this thread cos i have a bad history of starting thread that already exist BUT i have done an extensive search and im pretty sure that this thread is completely new!!

i was just out in the garden having a bit of a spin, and i thought "hmmm i wonder what other people are trying to learn at the moment" and decided it would be agreat insight into the future of poi and where people were heading, and serve as inspiration to people who are a bit stuck. There is the obvious "oooh ive just learnt this" thread stuck at the top, but i thought it'd be good to hear what problems people are having with the moves while they are learning them, and how the over come them so other people can look and discover ways they might not have thought of.

so start your replies with "This Week I Am Mostly Learning....."

This Week I Am Mostly Learning.....3bt btb weaves, reverse5bt weave, and trying to work out 6bt TTN aswell as forward7bt weave. Problems?? loads, but these moves ( wink):
3btbtb weave, i keep hitting myself in the head, but im slowly getting the timing down,
Reverse 5bt, my wrists dont seem to like it, still working on timing, again keep hitting myself in the head ubbrollsmile
6btTTN again, the wrists are complaining, and the timing keeps going off
Forward7bt, i got a few beats the otehr night but i lost it now frown confused


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aston
aston

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Location: South Africa
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2007
Total posts: 4061
Posted:Moving with CAPs mostly.

Also trying to clean up hyperloops the other way.


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"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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MelissaRhae
MelissaRhae

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Location: Nyssa, OR
Member Since: 25th Apr 2006
Total posts: 11
Posted:I am working on my 5 beat weave also. people make it look so easy.

I am not smiling because I am happy... I am smiling becasue you have all finally driven me insane!

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Bam_Bam
Bam_Bam

Raver X
Location: Fort Worth, Tx. Usa
Member Since: 10th Oct 2009
Total posts: 15
Posted:Working on my islations and tring to get flowers down.I am also tring to get my btb back weaves and have a time with it.

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philisweatly
philisweatly

life's a garden, dig it
Location: Tennesse, U.S.A.
Member Since: 20th Feb 2008
Total posts: 115
Posted:overall flow with flowers and turning with them. also, stalls and direction changes. LOVE IT

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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Location: Seattle, WA
Member Since: 3rd Aug 2009
Total posts: 1277
Posted:Stalls are my fav. I've probably been spending more time on them than I really need to because they're fun and they drive dogs crazy.

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EpitomeOfNovice
EpitomeOfNovice

Putting the "FUN" in fundamental since 1981
Location: Dover, Delaware USA
Member Since: 15th Sep 2009
Total posts: 787
Posted:I'm currently working on getting my left hand to cooperate with my right, mainly trying to do butterflies with my left hand on top (not going so well but is the least disastrous attempt) a real 3 beat weave consistently (seems that I slip into a 2 beat by nature of favoring my right hand then whack my left side when attempting to include it again) and turns both clockwise and counter clockwise.

I want my sides equally functional so that's the drill currently.


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JayKitty
JayKitty

Mission: Ignition
Location: Central New Jersey
Member Since: 7th Nov 2004
Total posts: 534
Posted:I saw yuta's video from temple of poi 09 and now im working on poi flats, at least thats what they look like. It's like in club juggling where you do a flat. He does a stall to the side and then kind of slides the entire poi down horizontally. Nifty stall variations like that.

Don't mind me, just passing through.

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aston
aston

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Posted:I think that they are called floaters. At least that is what I understand a floater to be. wink

And they are well fun.


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Rives
Rives

Nothing but circles and smiles...
Location: Tampa, FL USA
Member Since: 5th Jun 2009
Total posts: 118
Posted:floater/cateye/isolation/extension/antispin hybrid, caps, and connections.

I'm trying to figure out every way i can connect my poi to create new and intresting, some times very unexpected paterns.


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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

owner of the group property
Location: Seattle, WA
Member Since: 3rd Aug 2009
Total posts: 1277
Posted:This Week, on Sister Eleven: Attorney at Murder--

Working on meltdown/cosmos. Just got it briefly this morning for the first time. Whatever hand is swinging out from my body (i.e. my left hand if I'm spinning anticlockwise in the wall plane) has a hard time making it around without hitting my leg. I figured out how to fix it when practicing with just that hand, but I need to not let it happen when using both hands. I found the rocking motion, which I'd previously not much noted in the videos, helps a lot to keep up momentum and keep plane control.

I'm also working on antispin flowers. My brain flips out on these and keeps struggling to do in-spin. I know the motor control is there in potential, because I can do goofy butterfly flowers with either hand doing the antispin in either direction. I'm approaching it the same way I approached butterfly windmills: holding each position for a few beats, moving to the next one, gradually trying to whittle down the number of beats between the movements. The primary way they fail is my left hand freaks and flips the plane over (so I end up with different direction poi in a chase flower, and same direction poi in a butterfly flower).

(I suppose these are both advanced moves, but there's no analogous thread in the advanced forum...)


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AllToreUp
AllToreUp

the large print giveth, and the small print taketh away...
Location: Santa Fe/Albuquerque, NM
Member Since: 21st May 2009
Total posts: 19
Posted:Originally Posted By: JayKittyI saw yuta's video from temple of poi 09 and now im working on poi flats, at least thats what they look like. It's like in club juggling where you do a flat. He does a stall to the side and then kind of slides the entire poi down horizontally. Nifty stall variations like that.

Have you seen Mel's? So crispy!

@SE: Struggling with antispin flowers here too... So close it hurts haha


I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?

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Exuro
Exuro

The Prodigy

Member Since: 5th Dec 2008
Total posts: 82
Posted:sister eleven,
i have some tutorials that may aid you with btb weaves and the meltdown.
btb weave


meltdown




I am currently working on btb antispin flowers, and some new tosses


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You're going to get burned.

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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Location: Seattle, WA
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Total posts: 1277
Posted:Oh, nice. Those are some meltdown variations I hadn't seen before. And I WANT THEM.

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This Jaded Flesh
This Jaded Flesh

One soul is as good as another...
Location: England, Durham
Member Since: 30th Oct 2009
Total posts: 323
Posted:Tripping out over 5 beat in reverse. Seriously, what is going on? Bah! I've spent the last three days going over my hand movesments and timing but it's not sinking in. It'll come in time I guess. Currently trying my hand at the 4x4 fountain and air wraps.

"I may lack virtue, but I'm penitent"

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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted:What's a 4x4 fountain?

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This Jaded Flesh
This Jaded Flesh

One soul is as good as another...
Location: England, Durham
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Total posts: 323
Posted:This thing...




"I may lack virtue, but I'm penitent"

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chemairo
person who like to spin all gears
Location: Germany - Dsseldorf
Member Since: 10th Sep 2008
Total posts: 62
Posted:Actually Wallplane Flower in general are very great thing which I should get more time into.

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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Posted:Oh! Someone showed me that a couple months back, except they left right away and I could never remember how it was supposed to go! Yay! It's back!

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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted:Mostly trying to get triquetras and forward btb weave. Thankfully my meltdown is coming along pretty fast.

Forward BTB weave is tricky just because of plane control issues in that direction--still figuring out the wrist action that will keep it from hitting my leg. But my meltdowns are actually helping with that a lot, so I'm hoping it will click soon.

With triquetras I'm half way there, in that I can do two spins in one hand per extended spin in the other. Getting the antispin motion in there is where I trip up. If I can force my flower hand to start moving, my poi usually bump into each other at the bottom, or my extension slows down enough that it starts to sort of droop. I know conceptually what I'm supposed to be doing, and if I keep my flower super tiny I can do it, so I think it's just practicing and learning to expand it out. As I understand it's basically a thread the needle, but moving in a weird way, so if this isn't wrong I know what I need to work on.


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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Posted:Oh, hey, Re: Triquetras, how do most people do it: point up or point down? It occured to me I'd been trying to do it point down, so I started trying it point up from a split time butterfly and it's been working a lot better.

Also have started playing around with tosses, especially as a direction change. Just at the one-hand phase right now, using my chunky-chained fire poi to practice. I think these will be a lot of fun.


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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
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Posted:I rarely actually do 'triquatras' with three petals... I usually do 4-5 petals. ^_^

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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Posted:That's because you're a show-off tongue2

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This Jaded Flesh
This Jaded Flesh

One soul is as good as another...
Location: England, Durham
Member Since: 30th Oct 2009
Total posts: 323
Posted:Finaly got the 5 beat weave in reverse but it totaly feels alien. Just doesn't feel like it's a 'real' move and I doubt I'll ever use it unless using it as a quick transition in movement. I've been naughty and haven't really trained much. Been abit poorly so havent gone out side for the past few days... Getting good at air wraps though still need some work. Errmmmm..... Winter is here, it's windy and snappy and it makes me feel like I suck at life. That is all for now.

P.S. my new poi came and I love/hate the stretchyness. It's going to take ages to stretch them out. If I hold them at the tip of the cone they feel beautiful smooth but I can't get really complex with them but it's nice doing this every so often lol but yeah whatever with this I'm just rambling now.


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MisTeRSkiTTleZ
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Location: Death Valley, Nevada
Member Since: 29th Sep 2009
Total posts: 2
Posted:i just got my reverse 5 beat down and now i'm moving on to behind the back weave both whys so i can do waistwraps then to meltdown

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T-S-A
T-S-A

Magic Monkey Juice
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Member Since: 21st May 2009
Total posts: 252
Posted:Originally Posted By: Mother_Natures_SonI rarely actually do 'triquatras' with three petals... I usually do 4-5 petals. ^_^ Would that still be considered a 'triquetra'? Or a hybrid of 4-5 petal antispin flower and extention? With "tri" usually meaning three... Not trying to be pedantic, am actually curious (if it even matters).

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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted:FWIW, I can do a meltdown but can't do a forward btb weave or a waist wrap. It's really kind of it's own thing. I just kept practicing the one-handed motions again and again and then put them together.

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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Posted:I'm guessing they put "triquetras" in quotes to indicate that what they do is not literally a triquetra, though it is part of the same family.

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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
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Posted:

Originally Posted By: T-S-AOriginally Posted By: Mother_Natures_SonI rarely actually do 'triquatras' with three petals... I usually do 4-5 petals. ^_^ Would that still be considered a 'triquetra'? Or a hybrid of 4-5 petal antispin flower and extention? With "tri" usually meaning three... Not trying to be pedantic, am actually curious (if it even matters).

You're quite right... its not really a triquatra. Sister Eleven has hit the nail on the head in saying that I put it in quotation marks to indicate that its not literally a triquatra.

I threw it out there becuase I find that piece of terminology quite restrictive insofar that it implies that theres only one way to do it, but you can do any ratio of beats.

2:1(3 petal antispin:extention) is the standard triquatra, but you can do 1:1 (cateye:extention) or even 3:1 4:1 and so on...

Keep using the term by all means, but also keep in mind that having the point up or down is not the limit to the variations you can find. ^_^


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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Posted:It wasn't so much a matter of finding a "variation", so much as wondering which was more common/easier. The possibility of a fairly arbitrary number of petals had not escaped me, but it is fairly irrelevant at the moment.

Right now the question on my mind is just: how the censored do I get my poi to stop smacking into each other or going limp when I try to do a triquetra. tongue2 Presumably answers to this will bear on a larger number of petals.


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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Member Since: 1st Aug 2007
Total posts: 2418
Posted:Its likely a plane issue.

Forget how many petals you're doing and forget where the focus points are while you work on this.

Get it clean first, then worry about where the petals are going.

Once it feels vaguely clean, play around with the number of petals.

If you want to be able to place your 3 petals wherever you like, try doing 4 petals and placing them evenly around in a + pattern.

Then you can just focus on getting rid of either the top or bottom petal. smile


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