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flash fire
flash fire

Sporadically Prodigal
Location: Sydney, NSW, Australia
Member Since: 25th Jan 2001
Total posts: 2758
Posted:This space is for all those funksters busy improving their technique by learning new moves - made-up or traditional.



Tell us all about it! We love hearing about our fellow poiers/staffies/misc. toyers succeeding with new things biggrin

It's just hard to keep up with it all sometimes, so if we keep it together you'll be certain to get a little feedback.



here a pat on the back in advance from me



::flash enthusiastically pats your back::



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tres
newbie
Location: dorset
Member Since: 25th May 2005
Total posts: 29
Posted:got really weird one moved from 5bt to above the head into a wrap thing which wont unwind unless bought behind the head and then into a 3bt backwards weave. tried and tested x but cant split them apart can only do as a sequence. hmm....

Jelly

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JauntyJames
JauntyJames

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Hampshire College, MA, USA
Member Since: 22nd Dec 2004
Total posts: 3533
Posted:Butterfly weave, 7 bt weave, and a couple basic wraps (I've been slacking with my wraps, so I figured I'd better catch up). Working on hyperloops, they're coming slowly. I hope to have it down by next weekend.

-James

"How do you know if you're happy or sad without a mask? Or angry? Or ready for dessert?"

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bluecat
bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:biggrin

lots of stuff.

negative space tangles are making me smile lots at the mo smile


Holistic Spinner (I hope)

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newgabe
newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2005
Total posts: 4030
Posted:Scuse me for butting in chaps but this is the most hilarious thread I've ever read, much funnier than anything in the chat section!! No no I'm not laughing AT you.. and I do know what yr talking about, but I just tried reading it as if I don't and then tried to imagine what on earth you're talking about....Negative space tangles !!! Love it!!!! That's what happens in a too small shared house kitchen, right? ( apple crumble... veges... Cork screw suicides!)

Carry on, I am gobsmacked with awe and have almost made my first pair of socks!


.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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Disc0
annoying boy
Location: Sweden
Member Since: 3rd Oct 2004
Total posts: 160
Posted:the "hide the poi behind my back"-stall smile

fire is just light and heat.
it's you friend!

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Puresock
Puresock

addict
Location: Oxford, UK
Member Since: 22nd Jun 2004
Total posts: 406
Posted:backwards behind the back butterfly waistwrap.

Thankyou miss Fairy for your inspiration biggrin


"Take that, math!"

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spiralx
spiralx

veteran
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 1st May 2002
Total posts: 1376
Posted:Straightjacket double throws and straightjacket into inverted crossarm weave.

"Moo," said the happy cow.

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Mr_Chutney
Mr_Chutney

Tosser
Location: Herefordshire
Member Since: 18th Apr 2003
Total posts: 1711
Posted:Spiralx- WHAAAAT?

I didn't see you doing that last night- who what where????


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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:Written by: spiralx

straightjacket into inverted crossarm weave.



i saw that.
and managed it meself a couple of times.
but i don't really know how to do it yet - i had to leave early on account of my loins... redface wink

negative space is cool biggrin


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Mr_Chutney
Mr_Chutney

Tosser
Location: Herefordshire
Member Since: 18th Apr 2003
Total posts: 1711
Posted:Oh ok- I did sort of see that- where were the double throws though?

And yes, negative space is cool- I just need to play more


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spiralx
spiralx

veteran
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 1st May 2002
Total posts: 1376
Posted:It might've been before you turned up... The throws go through the negative space so one goes straight up, one drops down.

"Moo," said the happy cow.

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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:but how do you manage to catch a poi that you throw directly down towards the floor...?


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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Sir Nuggit
Sir Nuggit

....is a liability
Location: playing with traffic
Member Since: 10th May 2005
Total posts: 899
Posted:
I taught myself what I thought was the backwards weave but it wasn't until I was round a fellow HoPers gaff at the weekend that someone pointed out that I had been doing it wrong all this time.

The new (and correct way) feels much better and no doubt looks it too - thanks Mr C smile


Pull my pin out, roll me in to a room and see what happens ubbloco

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spiralx
spiralx

veteran
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 1st May 2002
Total posts: 1376
Posted:Written by: coleman

but how do you manage to catch a poi that you throw directly down towards the floor...?


cole. x


Quickly! ubblol

You catch it in the other hand as it goes past, it's more of a drop than a throw I guess. The one coming out of the top can be thrown a bit more nicely though.


"Moo," said the happy cow.

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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:i like the first answer best ubblol wink


cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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oli
not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:ive been mainly trying to get back into some of the places i got into last week and thought were cool, but i keep ending up in new places which i also immedietly forget how to get back into.

also worked out a funky but simple little move and for once i think i can describe it in words smile so i will - a recipe for you:

1. from same direction split time stuff stall one poi up, one poi down.
2. let the poi head that you stalled up drop into your hand and catch it.
3. spin your hands around so the other poi is stalled pointing up and the hand holding the poi head is facing down.
4. drop the poi head you caught last time and catch the other one.
5. repeat


Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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poiboytoy
newbie
Location: Utah
Member Since: 31st May 2005
Total posts: 2
Posted:hey peoples,
I'm new here and I'm trying to get some tips on the reverse 5 beat weave, got it going forwards but its driving me crazy trying to go backwards. and what the hell are butterfly hyperloops, suicide corksrews, and straightjacket double throws? I'm jonesen' for some new tricks here, please help.


super symmetric SU5 grand unified fire theorist

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Puresock
Puresock

addict
Location: Oxford, UK
Member Since: 22nd Jun 2004
Total posts: 406
Posted:Written by: poiboytoy

hey peoples,
I'm new here and I'm trying to get some tips on the reverse 5 beat weave, got it going forwards but its driving me crazy trying to go backwards. and what the hell are butterfly hyperloops, suicide corksrews, and straightjacket double throws? I'm jonesen' for some new tricks here, please help.



http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/show...5/o/all/fpart/1
br>Reeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaddddddd. biggrin

As for all the crazy terminology that's flying around here, plug it into the forum search (Up there ^^^) and see what comes up.


"Take that, math!"

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Shu
Shu

Retro Fyre Wizzard
Location: Pietermaritzburg (KZN)
Member Since: 19th Apr 2005
Total posts: 538
Posted:okay...

i've started doing this move that i have never actually seen, or heard of before. I initially thought it might be a TTN, until i actually read what a TTN is, which is an old easy move!



I have searched through about 35 threads for information on what it might be... the only thing i can possibly think of calling it is an inverted or inside out weave.



Here's how it goes:



using the wheel/buzzsaw plane, keep the righthand poi rotating on the left side of your right hand and the lefthand poi rotating on the right side of your left hand at all times, otherwise you go into a normal weave.



Basically you spin between a wheel/buzzsaw and a crossover, alternating which arm is "on top" or "leading" to avoid wrapping yourself into a knot.



or another way to explain:

your right hand poi must stay on the left side of your right arm, but alternates between rotating from the left to right side of your left arm every beat, and visa-versa



i can't really think of a better way to explain it.



It'a new move (well about 3 weeks old now) for me, so i thought this could be the best place to post to get an answer rather than creating a new thread!


Regards hug

Shu
(Ice-E FyreStorm - Group Manager & Performer)

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oli
not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:shu - i think id call that a notcoleman3, not sure what anyone else calls it, but sweet smile

Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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Shu
Shu

Retro Fyre Wizzard
Location: Pietermaritzburg (KZN)
Member Since: 19th Apr 2005
Total posts: 538
Posted:i'll try a search!



shotto oli



EDIT:

No luck with that or variations

frown

EDITED_BY: Shu (1117722051)


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Shu
(Ice-E FyreStorm - Group Manager & Performer)

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oli
not with cactus
Location: bristol/ southern eastern devo...
Member Since: 24th Jul 2003
Total posts: 2052
Posted:i just looked in the inversions thread and cole describes it as a 3bt inside weave,



Written by: coleman from the inversions thread


1: [out|buzz|buzz|buzz|out]R (right poi spinning in right side outside plane)

2: L[out||buzz|buzz|buzz|out] (left poi spinning in left side outside plane)

3: [out|buzz|buzz|buzz||out]R (right crosses over to left side outside)

4: L[out||in|out] (left passes through inside to right side outside)



5: [out|buzz|in||out]r (right spinning in left side outside)

6: L[out||buzz|buzz|in|buzz|out] (left spinning in right outside)

7: [out|in|buzz|||out]R (right passes through inside to left side outside)

8: l[out||buzz|in|out] (left spinning in right side outside)

9: [out|buzz|in||out]R (right spinning in left side outside)

10: L[out||in|out] (left passes through inside to right side outside)



13: [out|buzz|in||out]R (right crosses over to right side outside)

14: L[out||buzz|buzz|buzz|out] (left crosses over to left side outside)





repeating steps 5 to 10 equates to spinning a 3bt inside weave.





but i think that means something else too confused namely a weave with all the beats inside. this isnt the place for a discussion about names and i dont really know what is what when it comes to terminolegy.



basically i think of it as a notcoleman3 because i learnt it after i learnt the notcoleman5 which is basically the same except you let the right poi come to the right of the right arm from the centre, instead of moving it to the left outside. and likewise with the left poi when its in the middle.


EDITED_BY: oli (1117725191)


Me train running low on soul coal
They push+pull tactics are driving me loco
They shouldn't do that no no no

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coleman
coleman

big and good and broken
Location: lunn dunn, yoo kay
Member Since: 29th Aug 2002
Total posts: 7330
Posted:nice one oli smile



when i first found that weave (exactly as oli said - through simplifying a notcoleman5) i described it using the phrase "over-under-through" since that's how it differs from a normal 3bt weave (which is "over-under-back").



so yeah, i call it a notcoleman3 too now on account of the fact that it definitely isn't a proper inside weave (which i have no idea how to do!).



shu - there's a little video with that move in: rite clik, say vaz...

its the first thing in the second part of the video, after the one poi plane demo and the beer swigging wink



i learnt nothing new today (apart from the fact that doing my job is tantamount to beating your head against a wall).





grouphug





cole. x


"i see you at 'dis cafe.
i come to 'dis cafe quite a lot myself.
they do porridge."
- tim westwood

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spiralx
spiralx

veteran
Location: London, UK
Member Since: 1st May 2002
Total posts: 1376
Posted:It's a notcoleman3 aka buzzsaw weave aka uncrossed inverted weave. As people have said wink

"Moo," said the happy cow.

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Falderfaile-POI
Falderfaile-POI

Member
Location: Daytona Beach Area, Florida
Member Since: 3rd Jun 2005
Total posts: 3
Posted:On thursday I was going to my friend andrews house and 2 guys stopped me and asked if I knew anything with my poi set I was holding. And when it was all over I had learned how to do the overhead butterfly. I found this site later that day and learned how to do an alternate butterfly and a mexican wave. I'm getting pretty good cool (I'm in peru for vacations)

I DO POI

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StarlyStar
journeyman
Location: Buxton, Derbyshire. UK
Member Since: 21st Jul 2004
Total posts: 78
Posted:I spun fire for the first time last night and it was amazing smile


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arashi
arashi

Pooh-Bah
Location: austin,tx
Member Since: 21st Mar 2002
Total posts: 2363
Posted:mantis style kung fu + conicals = getting laid

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-Seek freedom and become captive of your desires. Seek discipline and find your liberty.
-When the center of the storm does not move, you are in its path.

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upsidedown
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Location: Bucks
Member Since: 24th May 2005
Total posts: 32
Posted:isolated anti-spin weaves weavesmiley meditate weavesmiley

There is nothing quite like standing on your head.....

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Falderfaile-POI
Falderfaile-POI

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Location: Daytona Beach Area, Florida
Member Since: 3rd Jun 2005
Total posts: 3
Posted:In the plaza I swung (is that how I would say it?) fire for the first time on saturday night. OMG it was awesome. I bought a fire poi setup from one of my friends named Bamban and I burnt my hair. frown I love my hair.
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I DO POI

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Dunc
Dunc

playing the days away
Location: The Middle lands
Member Since: 19th Aug 2003
Total posts: 7263
Posted:Poi shower ubbrollsmile

BTB poi shower

Buttefly poi shower (which probably has a better name but meh, I'll go with this till somthing better comes along smile )



Let's relight this forum ubblove

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