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Hi everybody, im having trouble understanding posts in this forum when talking about 'anti-spin' could someone please explain...
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
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When your arm is rotating in the opposite direction of the poi head. For example, hand going clockwise, poi head is counter-clockwise. And vice versa.
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shadow stranger
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Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA
a slightly easier explanation your poi spin forwards and your arm spins backwards
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Paper by Imakokode: antispin.pdf
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Okay cheers guys. Im gona work on ant-spin buzzsaws as soon as my new poi arrive.
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You can not really anti-spin a buzzsaw. You can anti-spin a buzzsaw fountain?
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Poi Master Smurf
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Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA
I beg to differ aston. It all depends on the length of your poi. That was probably the first flower I learned let alone ever saw.
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Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
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A buzzsaw has no arm movement, being static spin of both poi between your arms. Since it is static spin, it can not be antispun (or is always antispun, depending on which way the head of the viewer is spinning, I guess).
Poi length makes no difference. Buzzsaw flowers and fountains are something different.
Otherwise, I want to see an antispun buzzsaw please.
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"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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person who like to spin all gears
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Location: Germany - Düsseldorf
Of course you can antispin a buzzsaw and then it looks like that
https://www.feuershow.de/ql?3187
and this you can combine with a fountain for example and get something similar what Jon was playing with in this video
Are there more of these theory papers? Love to read them
Poi Master Smurf
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Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA
@aston Yes a regular buzzsaw has no movement of the arms and is just static spin. But what about an Isolated buzzsaw? Still a buzz saw but your arms are moving to isolate the poi. I believe that anti spin buzzsaw also fits in this field, just requires a different arm movement. Also I can make a horrible cell phone video with my flowlights if you would like me to so I can make a visual point.
@Chemairo that is definitely the anti spin buzz saw I know, just not with perfect timing. With really nice timing the tracers make a great little triquetra, and not the typical skinny petal one. This one has fat petals more like the Celtic triquetra.
Also Alien Jon FTW
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Eh, better than the double cat-eye buzzsaw is the horizontal vs. vertical cat-eye buzzsaw. Which I totally can't do, but it's pretty boss and looks more buzzsaw-y to me.
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Putting the "FUN" in fundamental since 1981
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Location: Dover, Delaware USA
I'm not sure if anyone can enlighten me to this, but it would be great to understand. I can do goofy flowers alternating which hand is in anti-spin with no problem, same thing with CAPs, but an anti-spin flower full-on in either wheel or wall plane starts okay then goes into forward or goofy for no good reason very early on.
Is there some way to feel the signal it's going to switch back to forward or even a rule to help keep it from changing momentum?
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Rampant whirler.
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Epitome? Are you changing the direction of one of your poi?? Or one of your arms? It won't be "for no good reason" it will most likely be a matter of planes.
Putting the "FUN" in fundamental since 1981
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Location: Dover, Delaware USA
Well I'm sure there's a good reason, but the switch happens after a few correct passes when I start getting in the groove of it when I'm not looking. The arms stay in the chase motion, but out of nowhere the poi changes directions from anti-spin to regular or goofy and I'm not quite sure how to prevent this from happening.
It normally happens when my focus goes to which hand is in the back.
~Rock on!~
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Rampant whirler.
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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Yeah it'll be a plane issue, try to focus on keeping the poi nice and straight in plane, other than that, keep practicing and taking note of whats actually going on! ^_^
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Ah. Those. Completely forgot about those. Apologies.
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