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Daniel_Hendricks
The Hendricks Experience
Location: Texas
Member Since: 4th Apr 2010
Total posts: 41
Posted:Ok so a thought has recently come to me that would require quite a few hands and quite a bit more preperation. All I want to do with the rest of my life is spin fire and enjoy living. I know I am not alone in this desire. Therefore the only sensible thing in my mind has been to save up enough money to buy some land somewhere, make a generous sized garden, and live. The basic needs of food and shelter would be covered. Next comes the idea of companionship, and in marches the commune ideal. All comments welcome, but this really is a serious idea of mine so lets not get too out there folks. Possible location: ALASKA; homestead act is still viable in alaska meaning you pick a plot of land, make it better, and after seven years its yours. Any takers?

"it is something to be able to paint a picture, or to carve a statue, and so to make a few objects beautiful; but it is far more glorious to carve and paint the very atmosphere and medium through which we look," thoreau

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Icarus Forde
Icarus Forde

Just Icarus//Spinner//Pyro//Geek
Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 10th Apr 2010
Total posts: 261
Posted:Interesting idea... I might be interested if I wasn't on the other side of the world. smile

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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:This is a massive undertaking! Pick your plot carefully!

Icarus: People get off the plane in Alaska and never get back on all the time.

There's plenty of nowhere on the South Island or over in Australia.


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Fire_Moose
Fire_Moose

Elusive and Bearded
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Member Since: 2nd May 2007
Total posts: 3597
Posted:Alaska is too unforgiving. Why not pick something out here in the AZ desert? There are tons of amazing places here.

and the commune ideal? like everyone is sharing everyone else?


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meshunderlay
meshunderlay

Juggler/Spinner
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
Member Since: 15th Sep 2008
Total posts: 612
Posted:Hey, I had an idea like this once, except it was situated more around Hawaii.

I think it's a fantastic idea, though performing would then be your number 1 income source, n'est-ce pas? The Hawaii idea I had come up with involved creating a large farm for income. I forget what the exact "thing" was called, but I was told you could obtain grants in order to fund agricultural ventures which is why I had come to that.

I mean, anything is possible, you just need time and in this case probably people.

Let me know what you come up with.


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meshunderlay
meshunderlay

Juggler/Spinner
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
Member Since: 15th Sep 2008
Total posts: 612
Posted:Hah Poje.

Not all communes involve... um.... Sharing of people. Though.... some may not mind if it did include that... eh? lol


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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:Hawaii would be awesome.

AZ not so much... AZ is Texas, with far less prospect and plant life, trying desperately to act like California.


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Smurf24029
Smurf24029

Poi Master Smurf
Location: Tacoma, Washington
Member Since: 5th Sep 2009
Total posts: 343
Posted:The are you choose would need to be somewhere that supports life. As a commune you need to try to be self sufficient. Grow your own crops have a well all of that. I am much interested in this.

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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:Hydroponic cash crops will make you self-sufficient!

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meshunderlay
meshunderlay

Juggler/Spinner
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
Member Since: 15th Sep 2008
Total posts: 612
Posted:Yes, I am a big fan of hydropronics.... ^_^

Seriously though, I have always been a fan of performer communes, I have just yet to find the right people....
Maybe sooner than later, eh? =)


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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:You mean as in 'family friendly'?

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triptrician
UFO Spotting
Location: Queensland
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 350
Posted:i'm in! * sounds awesome not quiete sure what skills i would bring in but hydroponic product tester sounds like the job for me
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meshunderlay
meshunderlay

Juggler/Spinner
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
Member Since: 15th Sep 2008
Total posts: 612
Posted:Either way really Refuge. I'm a fan of home grown foods and manual labor, so... yeah.

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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:It would have to be 'family' friendly if I am too bring my extensive knowledge to the table.

In Alaska, you can grow legally, distribution is another issue. Alaska has a short growing season but the extra hours of daylight gives you huge growth. Logistics and materials are your real issues, in the wilderness you are somewhat forced to be self-reliant.


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meshunderlay
meshunderlay

Juggler/Spinner
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
Member Since: 15th Sep 2008
Total posts: 612
Posted:Unless I'm trying to *ahem* "start a family", most everything I do is family friendly, aside mainly from cracking horrible jokes in front of friends.

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Daniel_Hendricks
The Hendricks Experience
Location: Texas
Member Since: 4th Apr 2010
Total posts: 41
Posted:I love the quick responce this has gotten. As far as the Alaska thing, i Feel its very doable but it would be a much more isolated endeavor, i.e. not for the faint of heart. Having a well wouldn't be much of a problem I'm thinking because of all the snow and such.
Now after living in Hawaii a while back I know that would be an amazing location but I haven't looked much into it as a possible locale.
To explain what i meant about the communal ideal: In order to really enjoy living you have to be able to share the experience with another; we are social animals. This is not to single out or specify a type of relationship but only to recognize that others need to be involved in this venture.
Now, an interesting little test idea i thought of would be to start a small group, call it a test site, to gather the knowlege and needed resources to prepare for alaska(or hawaii, or wutever the final choice is). It could be as simple as a fire team or a group of fire teams spread accross several states, it can get as organized as you want.
What it boils down to is the fact that i don't feel right in this world, call it escapism if you like, but this is something that very well can happen.

Keep the ideas a flowing =)


"it is something to be able to paint a picture, or to carve a statue, and so to make a few objects beautiful; but it is far more glorious to carve and paint the very atmosphere and medium through which we look," thoreau

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Zephyre Phoenix
Zephyre Phoenix

Familiar stranger giving out popcorn. (formerly Ascilith)
Location: Lawrence, KS
Member Since: 1st Nov 2009
Total posts: 1264
Posted:Hm, this has my attention smile Not for me to do personally, but definately like the concept. Definately something I would support and visit. If things go the way I wish, donate to the commune as well.

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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:The well in the wilderness part of Alaska would freeze over in winter. They have to dig graves in Alaska during the summer and hope that they have anticipated the amount of deaths right because it's not possible to dig 6 feet even with heavy machinery.

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triptrician
UFO Spotting
Location: Queensland
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 350
Posted:i would love this to be more than a dream. I only have one problem though. Having spent all my time in the tropics and having never been anywhere that gets cold enough to snow i dont know how well i would go aclimatising(sp?). imagine all the crazy moves a commune of spinners would produce.

Ascilith we would need you to visit as we would need an apostle or monkof sorts to carry all of the knowledge and crazy moves out into the world. Do you feel up to the task?

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triptrician
UFO Spotting
Location: Queensland
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 350
Posted:another thought we would need to make sure HoP can air drop materials for us wherever we decide to pitch camp

would rather have a bottle-in-front-of-me than a frontal lobotomy

"The dangers of life are infinate and among them is safety"(geothe)

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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:Ascilith should just bring the stuff on his visits

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meshunderlay
meshunderlay

Juggler/Spinner
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
Member Since: 15th Sep 2008
Total posts: 612
Posted:I think it's doable, and I have always loved the idea of a communal living situation.
Sex aside, I love just being around awesome people and friends, though having an "other" might be nice, it's not on the top of my list of important things to accomplish in the near future anymore.
Yeah, and I mean, Alaska is pretty and all, but *shrug*. Who knows. Only time will tell.


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triptrician
UFO Spotting
Location: Queensland
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 350
Posted:hehe our monkish apostle delivery guy


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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:This really should be in the 'Ask a dumb question get a dumb answer' thread:

Hey forum filled with mostly hippies and party kidds, what do you think about a commune? Of course we think it's AWESOME!

I also find irony in the fact that it can out of Dan.


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Fire_Moose
Fire_Moose

Elusive and Bearded
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Member Since: 2nd May 2007
Total posts: 3597
Posted:im not a hippy or a party kid...so speak for yerself!


a couple notes to take into account, we need electricity to power our computers to get onto HoP. Solor panels might be a good idea..with the extended light hours and such (speaking alaska of course)


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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:Hence the adverb 'mostly'....

Note there are also extended hours of dark in Alaska. Wind power and back up ethanol generators would be more winter reliable.


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Grottbags
Grottbags

Just Say Neigh
Location: Pie Town
Member Since: 14th Apr 2010
Total posts: 36
Posted:I have always been interested with the idea of being a monk, I am not particually religious, more spiritual. I do however like the outdoors, growing my own food, I feel that hard work should have its rewards. I also keep bees, which I enjoy doing...so yes commune sounds great!

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Fire_Moose
Fire_Moose

Elusive and Bearded
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Member Since: 2nd May 2007
Total posts: 3597
Posted:ah crap, just thought of something, Can any of you make really good beer?

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Zephyre Phoenix
Zephyre Phoenix

Familiar stranger giving out popcorn. (formerly Ascilith)
Location: Lawrence, KS
Member Since: 1st Nov 2009
Total posts: 1264
Posted:haha you wouldn't be a monk as much as you would be an apostle. Id love to be apostle/move person/supply person! I'd need to know exactly what that entails but it sounds like an amazing idea smile Specially cuz I want to live in new zealand some day anyways lol. I'd be like right next to HoP in comparison to alaska. That and I'd always be growing in my move library so to speak. grin

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Daniel_Hendricks
The Hendricks Experience
Location: Texas
Member Since: 4th Apr 2010
Total posts: 41
Posted:Wheres the irony in my name? or is that a stupid question in and of itself?
I have been looking at lot prices and it looks like a decent piece of land with running water access and plenty of trees runs at about 50 grand- with 20 plus acres to roam through

this is a lot when its just one person but thinking in terms of 50 or so people plus the possibility of outside doners, its a very realistic prospect.

With regards to weather- we're not talking northern alaska where theres thirty days of night. Access to a running river is key. Aside from that, shlters can be built, food gathered/hunted, electricity is more or less optional as far as I'm concerned.

Now think for a moment if you will: What would you do if you found out something like this already existed? I know i would want to visit it, possibly join in on the fun, and definitly donate what I can to keep it going for future generations. Not to mention tell everyone I knew.

I don't know when this will happen, but I do know it has to happen. What I ask is for others to build interest, do some research for yourselves, and show how resolved you are at making this happen. I would like to set a feasable goal of starting up in the next 5 years- assuming of course we make it past 2012...


"it is something to be able to paint a picture, or to carve a statue, and so to make a few objects beautiful; but it is far more glorious to carve and paint the very atmosphere and medium through which we look," thoreau

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Fugee
Fugee

Cooler than bubblegum!
Location: Dallas, Texas
Member Since: 26th Feb 2010
Total posts: 2501
Posted:Trip and I think Australia is a viable option...

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