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stranger
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stranger
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hello. i'm new to home of poi and the whole poi world
i've used sock poi with tennis balls and just today got my flowlight with colecord and such and i'm having trouble getting it comfortable..
i'm not talking like personal preference on heads or anything just how is everything connected?
i have the cord, swivels, flowlights, quicklinks, and the handles with swivels..
hello. i'm new to home of poi and the whole poi world
i've used sock poi with tennis balls and just today got my flowlight with colecord and such and i'm having trouble getting it comfortable..
i'm not talking like personal preference on heads or anything just how is everything connected?
i have the cord, swivels, flowlights, quicklinks, and the handles with swivels..
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
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Well, I'm assuming you have the crystal case because that seems to be what most people have.
What I like to do is take 4ft of Colecord and tie just a simple knot (both ends together in a loop), and have that knot at the bottom swivel so it acts like a stopper knot. Then do a larks head knot to attach it to the top one.
Well, I'm assuming you have the crystal case because that seems to be what most people have.
What I like to do is take 4ft of Colecord and tie just a simple knot (both ends together in a loop), and have that knot at the bottom swivel so it acts like a stopper knot. Then do a larks head knot to attach it to the top one.
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I would put the quicklink through the swivel and the flowlight, tie the cord to the other end of the swivel, and tie the other end of the cord to the handle swivel. If you need any recommendations on knots for this I can try and dig up some pictures of my rig, but it shouldn't be too hard to play around and find something that works. Hard to beat overhand knots.
I would put the quicklink through the swivel and the flowlight, tie the cord to the other end of the swivel, and tie the other end of the cord to the handle swivel. If you need any recommendations on knots for this I can try and dig up some pictures of my rig, but it shouldn't be too hard to play around and find something that works. Hard to beat overhand knots.
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stranger
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stranger
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Posted:
thank you for the responses. i do have the crystal cases and the quicklinks don't really fit through those. sorry i didn't mention that.
thank you for the responses. i do have the crystal cases and the quicklinks don't really fit through those. sorry i didn't mention that.
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Ah, if they don't fit then honestly I would skip them and skip swivels by the head (never had head swivels on any of my flowtoys and never missed them). I would tie a loop into the cord (if you're not using doubled cord) and just attach the cord to the crystal case with a lark's head. The lark's head is your best friends on poi with removable parts.
Ah, if they don't fit then honestly I would skip them and skip swivels by the head (never had head swivels on any of my flowtoys and never missed them). I would tie a loop into the cord (if you're not using doubled cord) and just attach the cord to the crystal case with a lark's head. The lark's head is your best friends on poi with removable parts.
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stranger
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stranger
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i think i've got it figured out now. i have lengths of 5ft so i folded it in half. tied the ends together slid the flowlight on and then larked it through the handle which has swivels.. lol larked. i had to tie another knot though on the light end to shorten it.. i saw on the "how to use colecord" video by playpoi he said to use 13ft per pair of poi.. any ideas on why?
i know its all on preference but do most people use both flowlight in the same direction or do opp.?
i know i'm probably coming off somewhat aggressive/annoying i'm just excited by all this to learn to entertain to enjoy myself
i think i've got it figured out now. i have lengths of 5ft so i folded it in half. tied the ends together slid the flowlight on and then larked it through the handle which has swivels.. lol larked. i had to tie another knot though on the light end to shorten it.. i saw on the "how to use colecord" video by playpoi he said to use 13ft per pair of poi.. any ideas on why?
i know its all on preference but do most people use both flowlight in the same direction or do opp.?
i know i'm probably coming off somewhat aggressive/annoying i'm just excited by all this to learn to entertain to enjoy myself
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Trust me I know, that excitement won't go down for a long time
Should see it when you get into making your own wicks. I remember the feeling f when I got into it, I just wanted to talk about poi constantly and ask EVERYTHING! So feel free to ask away.
As for the lights, I'm pretty sure most people put them same direction and the top facing down.
Trust me I know, that excitement won't go down for a long time
Should see it when you get into making your own wicks. I remember the feeling f when I got into it, I just wanted to talk about poi constantly and ask EVERYTHING! So feel free to ask away.As for the lights, I'm pretty sure most people put them same direction and the top facing down.
The only luck is bad luck.
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stranger
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stranger
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did you always intend on moving to fire? i don't really have any intentions on moving to fire right now but who knows what the future holds. i've heard people get together near me on tuesday nights at dog hill cherokee park but i haven't seen anyone.. like i said i'm new and i am under the influence that the longer the cord the harder but where it shows you to make your own it says within your pits.
did you always intend on moving to fire? i don't really have any intentions on moving to fire right now but who knows what the future holds. i've heard people get together near me on tuesday nights at dog hill cherokee park but i haven't seen anyone.. like i said i'm new and i am under the influence that the longer the cord the harder but where it shows you to make your own it says within your pits.
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I wasn't even aware that people did it without fire when I started
An arm's length is a good length to begin with, nice and slow for getting the hang of your big basic moves. Some people migrate to shorter. I actually migrated to shorter poi, then back to longer poi since you can always wrap long poi but you can't lengthen short poi...
I wasn't even aware that people did it without fire when I started
An arm's length is a good length to begin with, nice and slow for getting the hang of your big basic moves. Some people migrate to shorter. I actually migrated to shorter poi, then back to longer poi since you can always wrap long poi but you can't lengthen short poi...
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Well, yes, but I had no idea it would be soon. I was planning after life 5 years or so I was not at all planning for 1 month. I also greatly regretted my fire head choice... a lot. I hate cathedral heads so much, them and their small squareness I wish I chose the 4" Mura wick, I was deciding between the two.As for the cord, just go arm length. I went there, tried moving longer and shorter. I prefer it just about arm length. I'm not moving for being able to wrap around my hand twice and have it rest nicely in my palm. Which is just about arm length anyways for me.
Well, yes, but I had no idea it would be soon. I was planning after life 5 years or so
I was not at all planning for 1 month. I also greatly regretted my fire head choice... a lot. I hate cathedral heads so much, them and their small squareness I wish I chose the 4" Mura wick, I was deciding between the two.As for the cord, just go arm length. I went there, tried moving longer and shorter. I prefer it just about arm length. I'm not moving for being able to wrap around my hand twice and have it rest nicely in my palm. Which is just about arm length anyways for me. The only luck is bad luck.
Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass
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stranger
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i got into one night one of my friends had some glowsticks on one shoe string and he just spun that around with one hand and it was like nothing i had ever seen before. i immediately looked into everything i could find about it. i came to poi and fire spinning. i've seen glowstick sites and others similar but this site is way more legit and down to earth with everything. i love it. i only see myself with the lights but maybe oneday fire but i do highly respect the fire spinners and understand that what they do is on a whole different level than what i'm doing. i'm sure mistakes hurt way worse with fire. do people use longer than their pits? like really long cord?
i got into one night one of my friends had some glowsticks on one shoe string and he just spun that around with one hand and it was like nothing i had ever seen before. i immediately looked into everything i could find about it. i came to poi and fire spinning. i've seen glowstick sites and others similar but this site is way more legit and down to earth with everything. i love it. i only see myself with the lights but maybe oneday fire but i do highly respect the fire spinners and understand that what they do is on a whole different level than what i'm doing. i'm sure mistakes hurt way worse with fire
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I believe Noah Moore, in the Encyclo-Poi-Dia vol. 1, uses unusually long poi that are longer than his arms. At least it seems like they must be, because he does some rope dart tricks I've never been able to import to poi, and I know mine are on the longer side of what's common.
I believe Noah Moore, in the Encyclo-Poi-Dia vol. 1, uses unusually long poi that are longer than his arms. At least it seems like they must be, because he does some rope dart tricks I've never been able to import to poi, and I know mine are on the longer side of what's common.
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You can, I've looked into it, butnever got to it, which I can very easily because all I have to do is take someif the extra chain down on one of my sets. You might want to look into rope dart though if you want REALLY long. And no fire actually doesn't hurt much at all unless you have monkeyfist heads. Inwhich case, those hurt anyways because they're rock hard.
You can, I've looked into it, butnever got to it, which I can very easily because all I have to do is take someif the extra chain down on one of my sets. You might want to look into rope dart though if you want REALLY long. And no fire actually doesn't hurt much at all unless you have monkeyfist heads. Inwhich case, those hurt anyways because they're rock hard.
The only luck is bad luck.
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stranger
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i made a monkey fist rope dart actually just to play around with but i haven't really played with it. more into poi. the integration of rope dart tricks into poi though caught my attention for sure is there a video i could see? i've just gotten down 5beat weaves forwards and back. i don't know a whole lot of things with it but i'm trying to get used to the rythms oh also 2beat forward behind the back. i like the idea of not doing tricks but feeling the movement but for now i'm getting the tricks down so i can move comfortably
i made a monkey fist rope dart actually just to play around with but i haven't really played with it. more into poi. the integration of rope dart tricks into poi though caught my attention for sure is there a video i could see? i've just gotten down 5beat weaves forwards and back. i don't know a whole lot of things with it but i'm trying to get used to the rythms oh also 2beat forward behind the back. i like the idea of not doing tricks but feeling the movement but for now i'm getting the tricks down so i can move comfortably
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(And for the record, flowlight rope darts are easy to make and lots of fun. Just double your arm span in colecord, plus enough for a loop around one of your wrists [or use a single loop handle if you want to get fancy].}
(And for the record, flowlight rope darts are easy to make and lots of fun. Just double your arm span in colecord, plus enough for a loop around one of your wrists [or use a single loop handle if you want to get fancy].}
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Yeah I got a rope dart too, I thought it would be really fun, but I just can't get into it at all. It's just not fun... Of course sometimes that changes when you see lights or fire. I have enough Colecord that I bought just for making a rope dart with an LED ball from HoP, but I have so little fun with rope dart that I've never bothered to even unwrap the Colecord.
Yeah I got a rope dart too, I thought it would be really fun, but I just can't get into it at all. It's just not fun... Of course sometimes that changes when you see lights or fire. I have enough Colecord that I bought just for making a rope dart with an LED ball from HoP, but I have so little fun with rope dart that I've never bothered to even unwrap the Colecord.
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ropedarts tricky to get started in, once you get over a few hurdles and concepts though it becomes quite fascinating making up more and more complicated knots to strike out of
ropedarts tricky to get started in, once you get over a few hurdles and concepts though it becomes quite fascinating making up more and more complicated knots to strike out of
even chuck norris can't pin you down if your on fire
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stranger
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Posted:
thats cool man. what length colecord are your handles? thats basically how i have mine now.
thats cool man. what length colecord are your handles? thats basically how i have mine now.
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Mind telling me how you tied those handles? I'm practically drooling waiting for Flowlight fund to get to $100 to get everything I need.
Mind telling me how you tied those handles? I'm practically drooling waiting for Flowlight fund to get to $100 to get everything I need.
The only luck is bad luck.
Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass
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stranger
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it looks like he tied it the same as he tied the other side of the swivel. i may be wrong but i believe he put one end through tied and knot put the other end through the swivel the opposite way tie a knot pull them even and tie a knot around the double
it looks like he tied it the same as he tied the other side of the swivel. i may be wrong but i believe he put one end through tied and knot put the other end through the swivel the opposite way tie a knot pull them even and tie a knot around the double
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I have mine like JaredW's except shorter handles. I already have flowlights with double loop handles and wanted some cheap poi i could afford to lose...
pack of 3 tennis balls - £1
2 x no10 swivels - £2.06
2 x 1 metre colecord - £1.60
cut a bit off one end of the each cord to make the handles
punch hole with screwdriver in each tennis ball and push colecord through (again with screwdriver) knot on the other side of the tennis ball.
A bit short but perfect for £4.66 and very good for orbitals. (I would have a breakdown if I lost my Hyperlights and have already lost 2 pairs of flowlights on nights out)
Same sort of thing applies to my flowlights, but they are a bit longer, have double loop handles and a knot before the swivel
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I have mine like JaredW's except shorter handles. I already have flowlights with double loop handles and wanted some cheap poi i could afford to lose...
pack of 3 tennis balls - £1
2 x no10 swivels - £2.06
2 x 1 metre colecord - £1.60
cut a bit off one end of the each cord to make the handles
punch hole with screwdriver in each tennis ball and push colecord through (again with screwdriver) knot on the other side of the tennis ball.
A bit short but perfect for £4.66 and very good for orbitals. (I would have a breakdown if I lost my Hyperlights and have already lost 2 pairs of flowlights on nights out)
Same sort of thing applies to my flowlights, but they are a bit longer, have double loop handles and a knot before the swivel
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Geeza: Did you weight those? Because I have always found tennis balls too light.
Geeza: Did you weight those? Because I have always found tennis balls too light.
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stranger
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with my sock poi like i said they have tennis balls in them and they are too light for me but what i did is bought some of those spiky balls with air in them in the toy isle and cut the top of and slid that over the head like a cover. it added enough weight that i could spin comfortably. what i normally practice with.
with my sock poi like i said they have tennis balls in them and they are too light for me but what i did is bought some of those spiky balls with air in them in the toy isle and cut the top of and slid that over the head like a cover. it added enough weight that i could spin comfortably. what i normally practice with.
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I have a set of poi made out of doorknobs. (The ones that you screw into the floor.)
Two on the head, one on the handle and that works nicely. No swivels or anything. Will get some photos if anyone wants.
I have a set of poi made out of doorknobs. (The ones that you screw into the floor.)
Two on the head, one on the handle and that works nicely. No swivels or anything. Will get some photos if anyone wants.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
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@geeza, i'd recommend switching out your colecord handles for ones made of ribbon, best decision I ever made, SO comfortable
@geeza, i'd recommend switching out your colecord handles for ones made of ribbon, best decision I ever made, SO comfortable
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They are quite light but not as light as a single flowlight or even as light as glowsticks. I could always poke popcorn seeds into them if i wanted them heavier i suppose.
What sort of ribbon, it might have been you that suggested using suitcase ribbon but i had no idea what this meant. I find Colecord pretty soft really, especially compared to my old leather handles on my monkeyfists
They are quite light but not as light as a single flowlight or even as light as glowsticks. I could always poke popcorn seeds into them if i wanted them heavier i suppose.
What sort of ribbon, it might have been you that suggested using suitcase ribbon but i had no idea what this meant. I find Colecord pretty soft really, especially compared to my old leather handles on my monkeyfists
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stranger
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stranger
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i like the handles they use on the "how to make and use colecord" video on playpoi. it looks so simple and comfortable. i'm interested in seeing these doorknob poi.
i like the handles they use on the "how to make and use colecord" video on playpoi. it looks so simple and comfortable. i'm interested in seeing these doorknob poi.
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What I want to do is make Colecord knob-ish handles. I made one with some extra cord I had laying around and I like the idea a lot. I could also make it a lot wider if I knew how to do lets say a 12 strand sennit, I could try though I think I get the principle of it. But what i did was pretty much a tiny Isis head. I can even attach a swivel to it.
What I want to do is make Colecord knob-ish handles. I made one with some extra cord I had laying around and I like the idea a lot. I could also make it a lot wider if I knew how to do lets say a 12 strand sennit, I could try though I think I get the principle of it. But what i did was pretty much a tiny Isis head. I can even attach a swivel to it.
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My socks from HOP with my pro series LED balls. Also what is unique about my poi is that I have 10 pennies sewed into some soft material. That is put inside the sock and tied into a knot. Fantastic for throws
My socks from HOP with my pro series LED balls. Also what is unique about my poi is that I have 10 pennies sewed into some soft material. That is put inside the sock and tied into a knot. Fantastic for throws
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Screw loop handles. It's all about the knob grips, baby. ;P (PX3 handles work well for flowlights too.)
Screw loop handles. It's all about the knob grips, baby. ;P (PX3 handles work well for flowlights too.)
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