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EpitomeOfNovice
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Posted:These are both organic fabrics and I was wondering if anyone had fire safety info on wearing clothing made from these materials for spinning. Anyone used these or knows anything about possible flame test results?

Trying to have all my ducks in a row before proceeding on this journey. All information and replies are greatly appreciated!
thankx


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Sister Eleven
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Posted:I don't have any direct experience with these fibers, but my sweetie has a bit of welding experience and says that many fibers that call themselves bamboo are actually synthetic or processed enough to act like synthetics. Probably you should scrap test such materials first. Hemp, however, should be fine in all the same general sorts of ways that cotton or linen is.

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hamamelis
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Posted:The first time I tried fire spinning was in heavy gauge hemp trousers, (and I certainly hit myself enough back then..)- it seemed to act somewhere between heavy cotton/denim- however, I'd strongly recommmend you have a play with scraps and a flame before deciding to spin wearing a fabric you're not sure about.
Proper hemp is not going to melt into you though regardless, and that's the main worry. Just if it's a bit thin it may catch fire a bit easy.

I'll try 'borrow' a bit of bamboo wool off my housemate tonight and have a go at torching it.. see what it does wink


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mcp
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Posted:yup, bamboo is processed like rayon is, so not only is it kinda not what it says on the tin, just using a different cellulose source. Plus not very 'organic' or green. In that a - processed and b - what chemicals are they using for the dye and bleaching and such like. It can be organic as you like, and then they can bleach it white and poison the environment that way.

Finding really actually 'green' t-shirts is like the holy grail of ethical t-shirt printers. I don't think anybody has done it yet.


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EpitomeOfNovice
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Posted:Originally Posted By: hamamelis
I'll try 'borrow' a bit of bamboo wool off my housemate tonight and have a go at torching it.. see what it does wink

I'd be very interested to hear the results of this! Glad to hear heavy hemp results (I have pants and shirts).

I'm a little sad to hear about bamboo but I'm pretty sure the shirts are dark nature colors so they wouldn't have to be processed with bleach. The shirts are Satori Movement so I'll do some research on that. I have some organic cotton tees made with organic pigment dyes so I didn't even question eco-friendly bamboo.

Thanks much for the feedback guys and let me know about the bamboo wool experiment when you get a chance grin


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hamamelis
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Posted:Ok, I didn't do a proper full test on a woven bit of fabric, I just tried with a bit of bamboo wool, but even twisting it very tight, and putting a flame in the middle of the (quite thick) thread, it still caught flame very fast- say 1-2 seconds, and the bit burned up faster than I was expecting.

It didn't seem to leave a sticky melted type residue, like a plastic based thread would, but still, not much use for spinning in.


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letitburn
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Posted:dont use bamboo for fire equipment the censored explodes

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SpinnerofDetroit
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Posted:Ok since this is about clothing and I've looked at these kinds of cltothes (what I think they are) and I can g et them out of hemp or linen easily. I want some poi-ing pants. I really like how Nick's kind look a lot, but it's just too poofy for me to use. So I was thinking more like the kind Nevisoul uses. For a close up view o what I mean look here:



I don't need anything fancy, but I'm shooting to just buy plain black, 1 because I love black, and 2 because soot won't show. I found what might be it as "Karate Pants," but felt like asking you guys because I'm being offered poi pants of my choosing for my birthday. And I would love action pants, but as I said, I think it's too poofy.

Here's what I found in hemp: http://www.rawganique.com/PantsKarate.htm


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Sister Eleven
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Posted:Wrap pants are also super easy to make and border on one size fits all. All you need is two fabric rectangles that are as long as the pants you want and plenty wide; in the middle of the edge that will go around your waist cut a U shape out and sew the pieces together along the edge of that U. Trim the extra width and sew ties to the waist. Hella comfy, loose, flowy pants.

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SpinnerofDetroit
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Posted:Sounds like a good way to go smile I'll look what materials we can get.

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Sister Eleven
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Posted:Unless you give them quite a big overlap or use a fairly heavy fabric, the sides can fly open when you move around. But you can either just pin them near your knees, or add extra ties near the knees.

I'm about to make another pair of these soon so I have good summer time spinning pants. Hopefully I can find a good natural fiber canvas.


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eca
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Posted:I'm modifying a pair of scrubs from the crazy house for a pair of "flow pants". They are so comfortable! I'll post a pic in here later, still need to add some pockets, and make them a little more visually interesting as they are horribly boring right now.

A note on using scrubs: they are not always 100% cotton, depending on the manufacturer they may have up to 40% synthetic fabric in them.


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Spesh
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Posted:I know this is an old thread, but I just wanted to let everyone know that I've heard some bad stuff about bamboo fiber. It's great for casual wear, but a friend of mine tried to dye some via the usual microwave method (pretty common practice for dyeing fibers). She put it in the microwave and the bamboo fiber burst into flames. She took a potholder and took the tray out of the microwave and put a pot lid over the whole thing. The fire went out. She lifted the lid, and the flame reignited. It wasn't until she dumped the whole thing into the sink that the flames finally went out. Since it's a resinous fiber, it can melt, then burn and burn and burn.

However, that's only the rayon-type bamboo, which is processed with lye. That's the one that's super-silky and soft. The linen-type bamboo is probably safer since it's made the same way as linen, with retting, but you might want to find out for yourself before wearing it while you burn. It's not as soft or luxurious, but it may be safer than rayon bamboo.



Midkiff
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Posted:hemp is good for lots o stuff like fire resistant clothing and a material similar to concreate that weighs half as much and is stronger

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