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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
I couldn't seem to find anything like this. Well, A couple kind of, but the links didn't work at all. So here this is. A thread for discussing your/any other wick designs that you know and have had experience with. Mainly to help everybody find out what kind of wicks they want when they want to make them without having to spend all their money on rope/wick tape/whatever.
I'll start mine with a question, I want to make Isis poi. But, I want to make a nice cracked/open surface. Would you use the same amount of wick on the outside that you do on the inside, or more? For example, I saw a video that said 4ft for the inside weave, then 6 for the outside. It's a crown on the inside and another over itself for reference of what I'm talking about. I would buy rope, but then I'd have my dad going, "You're spending too much money! Blah blah blah! You're buying things too often! Blah blah blah!" "But dad!"
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I couldn't seem to find anything like this. Well, A couple kind of, but the links didn't work at all. So here this is. A thread for discussing your/any other wick designs that you know and have had experience with. Mainly to help everybody find out what kind of wicks they want when they want to make them without having to spend all their money on rope/wick tape/whatever.
I'll start mine with a question, I want to make Isis poi. But, I want to make a nice cracked/open surface. Would you use the same amount of wick on the outside that you do on the inside, or more? For example, I saw a video that said 4ft for the inside weave, then 6 for the outside. It's a crown on the inside and another over itself for reference of what I'm talking about. I would buy rope, but then I'd have my dad going, "You're spending too much money! Blah blah blah! You're buying things too often! Blah blah blah!" "But dad!"
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journeyman
59 posts
Location: (SVK) - Slovakia
journeyman
59 posts
Location: (SVK) - Slovakia
Posted:
yeah i think i'll use a short eyebolt with a swivel or an hd split ring
thanks
yeah i think i'll use a short eyebolt with a swivel or an hd split ring
thanks
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
I'd say put the swivel in the eyebolt as it won't come apart like split rings may do, and one quicklink at the bottom isn't bad, but having handle-link-swivel-link-chain-link-swivel-link-poi is too much for me. My new setup will be: Pro-series handle-link-chain-link-(swivel put in eyebolt of poi)
I would just way avoid as many additional hardware as possible. And use split rings only if it gets too clunky because they can be unreliable at times. Although I found some at a shop nearby that might work and should test them out
I'd say put the swivel in the eyebolt as it won't come apart like split rings may do, and one quicklink at the bottom isn't bad, but having handle-link-swivel-link-chain-link-swivel-link-poi is too much for me. My new setup will be: Pro-series handle-link-chain-link-(swivel put in eyebolt of poi)
I would just way avoid as many additional hardware as possible. And use split rings only if it gets too clunky because they can be unreliable at times. Although I found some at a shop nearby that might work and should test them out
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journeyman
59 posts
Location: (SVK) - Slovakia
journeyman
59 posts
Location: (SVK) - Slovakia
Posted:
if the split ring is heavy duty, I think it alright.
I only use swivels at the top and I'd have to use a split ring at the bottom (with or without a swivel) anyway...I dislike those big oval quicklinks...
if the split ring is heavy duty, I think it alright.
I only use swivels at the top and I'd have to use a split ring at the bottom (with or without a swivel) anyway...I dislike those big oval quicklinks...
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
Ok then, whatever works for you is always fine Just as long as you accommodate for any possible dangers. What I might do whenever I do get a smaller chain is put on 2 split rings. Just remember to always check your rings and to test them out thoroughly in practice before you burn with them, and maybe put on 2 of them if it turns out you have to, still doesn't add bulkyness I don't think at least.
Ok then, whatever works for you is always fine
Just as long as you accommodate for any possible dangers. What I might do whenever I do get a smaller chain is put on 2 split rings. Just remember to always check your rings and to test them out thoroughly in practice before you burn with them, and maybe put on 2 of them if it turns out you have to, still doesn't add bulkyness I don't think at least. The only luck is bad luck.
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336 posts
Location: Scotland
336 posts
Location: Scotland
Posted:
in general split rings = bad, about the only exception is specialized hardened steel deep sea fishing split rings which need special pliers to open and you could swing a cow about with. generally quicklinks are the way to go for safety and easy of use
in general split rings = bad, about the only exception is specialized hardened steel deep sea fishing split rings which need special pliers to open and you could swing a cow about with. generally quicklinks are the way to go for safety and easy of use
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Poi Master Smurf
343 posts
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA
Poi Master Smurf
343 posts
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA
Posted:
Originally Posted By: liquidtrancein general split rings = bad, about the only exception is specialized hardened steel deep sea fishing split rings which need special pliers to open and you could swing a cow about with. generally quicklinks are the way to go for safety and easy of use
I was gunna say nick woosley used split rings. Certainly not bad ones, they were the deep sea ones that are hard to work with.
Originally Posted By: liquidtrancein general split rings = bad, about the only exception is specialized hardened steel deep sea fishing split rings which need special pliers to open and you could swing a cow about with. generally quicklinks are the way to go for safety and easy of use
I was gunna say nick woosley used split rings. Certainly not bad ones, they were the deep sea ones that are hard to work with.
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
Where do you get such split rings is what I wonder.
Where do you get such split rings is what I wonder.
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Rampant whirler.
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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Rampant whirler.
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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Posted:
Just rock on down to a fishing store. Outdoor stores didnt have anything in them that I liked, but the specialised fishing shops did.
Just rock on down to a fishing store. Outdoor stores didnt have anything in them that I liked, but the specialised fishing shops did.
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
I have a store that sells stainless sell split rings. They sell a small bag for about $10. Would these be those ones you could swing a cow on?
I have a store that sells stainless sell split rings. They sell a small bag for about $10. Would these be those ones you could swing a cow on?
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Poi Master Smurf
343 posts
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA
Poi Master Smurf
343 posts
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA
Posted:
In my opinion probably not SOD. Nick Woosley said that he got his from a deep sea fishing store. Also he tested them against 2 cars pulling on it, and stuff like that. Dunno exactly but theirs some video on playpoi. Either way the ones he used were made for catching sharks
In my opinion probably not SOD. Nick Woosley said that he got his from a deep sea fishing store. Also he tested them against 2 cars pulling on it, and stuff like that. Dunno exactly but theirs some video on playpoi. Either way the ones he used were made for catching sharks
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
Also you all may love this! I found those rings! This ring can hold 220 pounds! I think that enough isn't it?
Also you all may love this! I found those rings! This ring can hold 220 pounds! I think that enough isn't it?
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Poi Master Smurf
343 posts
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA
Poi Master Smurf
343 posts
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA
Posted:
Those should do it. That's the same as my quick links. Well maybe a bit weaker but I say over 200 is def good.
Those should do it. That's the same as my quick links. Well maybe a bit weaker but I say over 200 is def good.
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
I'd say it's good for sure if I order 8 of them
Edit: I forgot the link https://www.firemecca.com/p-941-split-ring-220-lb.aspx
EDITED_BY: SpinnerofDetroit (1273696980)
I'd say it's good for sure if I order 8 of them
Edit: I forgot the link https://www.firemecca.com/p-941-split-ring-220-lb.aspx
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
Oh god I really hope I don't die. Also look for my fun swivel on the top! Also I finished them exactly like this and there is gonna be no coming undone!
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Oh god I really hope I don't die. Also look for my fun swivel on the top! Also I finished them exactly like this and there is gonna be no coming undone!
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Kebab Embalmer
316 posts
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma, Philippines
Kebab Embalmer
316 posts
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma, Philippines
Posted:
dude, that looks like a big
! hehehe! nice design! is it the 4 strand round sinnet?
dude, that looks like a big
! hehehe! nice design! is it the 4 strand round sinnet? Tam tam tam cheketitamtam, ketumpantam, ketumpan kete kete kete, tam tam tam ketumpanketey!
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Kebab Embalmer
316 posts
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma, Philippines
Kebab Embalmer
316 posts
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma, Philippines
Posted:
oh now i remember, it looks like Mr. Hanky the christmas poop! hehehe!
oh now i remember, it looks like Mr. Hanky the christmas poop! hehehe!
Tam tam tam cheketitamtam, ketumpantam, ketumpan kete kete kete, tam tam tam ketumpanketey!
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336 posts
Location: Scotland
336 posts
Location: Scotland
Posted:
those are gonna be amazing, well done dude
those are gonna be amazing, well done dude even chuck norris can't pin you down if your on fire
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Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA
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Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA
Posted:
Originally Posted By: johndhaivedude, that looks like a big! hehehe! nice design! is it the 4 strand round sinnet?
If I remember correctly, it is only 3 strands.
Originally Posted By: johndhaivedude, that looks like a big
! hehehe! nice design! is it the 4 strand round sinnet? If I remember correctly, it is only 3 strands.
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
The sennit poi uses 4 ropes, but because they loop eachother at the bottom, it uses an 8-strand sennit. A 4-strand would be like a circle or a square stitch.
This poi is umm... I can't explain, but it's this: https://www.laneyards.com/2008/11/corkscrew-supertwist-stitch.html
The sennit poi uses 4 ropes, but because they loop eachother at the bottom, it uses an 8-strand sennit. A 4-strand would be like a circle or a square stitch.
This poi is umm... I can't explain, but it's this: https://www.laneyards.com/2008/11/corkscrew-supertwist-stitch.html
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journeyman
59 posts
Location: (SVK) - Slovakia
journeyman
59 posts
Location: (SVK) - Slovakia
Posted:
did you try ebay for the havy duty split rings?
https://shop.ebay.com/shimreels/m.html?_n...mp;_trksid=m270
I got these ...
EDIT: I linked the link
EDITED_BY: stano3b (1273783364)
did you try ebay for the havy duty split rings?
https://shop.ebay.com/shimreels/m.html?_n...mp;_trksid=m270
I got these ...
EDIT: I linked the link
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Kebab Embalmer
316 posts
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma, Philippines
Kebab Embalmer
316 posts
Location: Tulsa, Oklahoma, Philippines
Posted:
dude how many meters of kevlar did you use on each strand to make that 8 centimeters long?? and what you used on it is a half inch kevlar or a 1/4 inch? hehehe!
dude how many meters of kevlar did you use on each strand to make that 8 centimeters long?? and what you used on it is a half inch kevlar or a 1/4 inch? hehehe!
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
I used (per head) 3 strands-7ft and 1 strand-14ft. It was all 1 inch thin kevlar folded in half. You could also get 1/2" tape from FireMecca I now know -.-
If you look on that laneyard site I finished it like they do there and that put it up to 8 inches.
Btw those heads only cost me $40 for both of them!
I used (per head) 3 strands-7ft and 1 strand-14ft. It was all 1 inch thin kevlar folded in half. You could also get 1/2" tape from FireMecca I now know -.-
If you look on that laneyard site I finished it like they do there and that put it up to 8 inches.
Btw those heads only cost me $40 for both of them!
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336 posts
Location: Scotland
336 posts
Location: Scotland
Posted:
yo sod, what width tape did you use to make those or did you butcher some to size...? im playing aroung with new designs as well, some curious ideas coming up....
yo sod, what width tape did you use to make those or did you butcher some to size...? im playing aroung with new designs as well, some curious ideas coming up....
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
It says in there second sentence ^^^
It says in there second sentence ^^^
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
The only luck is bad luck.
Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass
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journeyman
59 posts
Location: (SVK) - Slovakia
journeyman
59 posts
Location: (SVK) - Slovakia
Posted:
WTF...the flames are massive
what's the weight per head when unsoaked?
WTF...the flames are massive
what's the weight per head when unsoaked?
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
umm idk, i don't have a scale
They're about 3 times heavier than the cathedrals I think. So very very light.
EDITED_BY: SpinnerofDetroit (1273944556)
umm idk, i don't have a scale
They're about 3 times heavier than the cathedrals I think. So very very light.EDITED_BY: SpinnerofDetroit (1273944556)
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shadow stranger
462 posts
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA
shadow stranger
462 posts
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA
Posted:
wow those flames are truely ridiclous
wow those flames are truely ridiclous
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Just Icarus//Spinner//Pyro//Geek
261 posts
Location: New Zealand
Just Icarus//Spinner//Pyro//Geek
261 posts
Location: New Zealand
Posted:
That is actually freaking epic, and makes me want to learn poi. ^_^
That is actually freaking epic, and makes me want to learn poi. ^_^
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All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
2,280 posts
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Posted:
Those poi are such a perfect weight when they're soaked ^_^ They're lighter than my practice heads. They have a perfect weight/drag ratio for me because everything just feels so... I can't really explain. But they are so epic. When I stopped to swing them back and forth the flame went up like 3ft!
Those poi are such a perfect weight when they're soaked ^_^ They're lighter than my practice heads. They have a perfect weight/drag ratio for me because everything just feels so... I can't really explain. But they are so
epic. When I stopped to swing them back and forth the flame went up like 3ft! The only luck is bad luck.
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