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Location: New Paltz, NY, USA
Member Since: 13th Feb 2001
Total posts: 90
Posted:ok, so i read the Lessons Sent in by Viewers part of this page, and i'm trying to do that butterfly where the woman goes in between her legs and then rolls over keeping the butterfly going. i can get the bfly between my legs, but i cannot roll without using my hand cuz i'm afraid of breaking my neck. anybody else tried this one yet?

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Location: Pittsburgh, PA/ USA
Member Since: 3rd Jan 2001
Total posts: 118
Posted:I haven't tried that particular trick yet, but I can do a summersault without using my hands. Just make sure your chin is tucked to your chest, and your shoulders will hit the ground first. It's one of the first things they teach you in a judo class. They used to make us do that from a dive, which used to scare the bejesus out of me until I got good at it. Just practice with your hands in position to catch yourself if you need to, but try it without actually using them. I bet you'll find that your head and neck don't even touch the ground...
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Posted:hey,when rolling without using your hands, its best not to try to roll directly down the line of your spine....If you can, try to learn to Roll first on one shoulder then to the opposite hip. If you do this, you will be putting less strain on your neck.I've got several years of experience teaching gymnastics floor work, where the emphasis is on symetry, ie you roll down the line of your spine. I've also got several years experience teaching martial arts, and while it isnt judo, we have a judo component in all our gradings. We teach Rolling from shoulder to opposite hip, and I find that when attempting a roll with a weapon (or poi in this case) it is much less of a strain to do it from shoulder to hip.Your milage may vary. With the butterfly rollout move tho, it may be neccessary for you to have a symetrical rollout, and so all I can say is, put your legs waaay apart and lean over as close as you can to the ground before rolling, thereby reducing the impact / risk of strain.Good luck.Josh


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Location: WNY, USA
Member Since: 15th Dec 2000
Total posts: 6193
Posted:Hey Tekkno...I would be that girl from the move post.I don't roll over onto one shoulder because I have wrapped the poi around my leg doing so...I have yoga, dance and gymnastic histories so it makes it easier. While doing the poi behind my butt I tend to bend wayyyyy over so that my head is nearly touching the ground. Then all I do is tuck my chin into my chest and roll gently out of it. There is no slammin down so there is no pressure on the neck or spine and it is a normal flow to the move.Anything else I can do to help, let me know.------------------Pele Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir...

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Posted:speaking of acrobatics,last night my girlfriend got very close to doing a one handed cartwheel while twirling two poi in the other hand.can anyone else do this trick? If so, could you describe how you do it?Josh


Member Since: 3rd Mar 2009
Total posts: 64
Posted:see nevisoul (AKA Thomas Johansson), he can do a one handed cartwheel while doing an orbital. it's unreal!!!

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Location: Lawrence, KS
Member Since: 1st Nov 2009
Total posts: 1264
Posted:holy crap, talk about a thread bump...

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Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:Holy crap, massive bump! And I can do that orbital cartwheel. I need to work on my cartwheel though, particularly getting my feet more up. But it's not really as hard as it looks, you just have to be able to cartwheel.

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