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Sister Eleven
GOLD Member since Aug 2009

Sister Eleven

owner of the group property
Location: Seattle, WA

Total posts: 1277
Posted:So I was spinning at a friend's birthday party the other night when I fumbled and wrapped one of my poi around my arm. I got it off fast enough to avoid any serious burns, but when the chain was on me during that wrap it felt very hot and I was preparing for a burn from them. Instead, I almost ended up with second degree burns in the shape of my monkey fist. Later on when washing soot off my arms, I saw I'd similarly received wick burns near my wrists from two brief spiral wraps (I can tell it was the wicks because the braid pattern is visible). No sign of burns from the chains at all.

So, what's going on here? From what I understand, my chains should be burning me before my Kevlar wicks. Is this likely a wick composition thing? A fuel thing?


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Mother_Natures_Son
SILVER Member since Aug 2007

Mother_Natures_Son

Rampant whirler.
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!

Total posts: 2418
Posted:Probably a fuel thing.. what kinda fuel are you using?

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Icarus Forde
BRONZE Member since Apr 2010

Icarus Forde

Just Icarus//Spinner//Pyro//Geek
Location: New Zealand

Total posts: 261
Posted:Yeah, I'd agree on fuel.

That being said, how long had you been spinning? If you're spinning for ages and ages.... But then you'd also expect your chains to get hot too.

*is somewhat interested at the overheated wicks*


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Sister Eleven
GOLD Member since Aug 2009

Sister Eleven

owner of the group property
Location: Seattle, WA

Total posts: 1277
Posted:The fuel was about 2:1 white gas & lamp oil. The guy I was spinning with actually palmed his wick at about the same time in his burn (last third or so), using the same fuel, and didn't seem to get burned. That's the part that makes it weird.

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Icarus Forde
BRONZE Member since Apr 2010

Icarus Forde

Just Icarus//Spinner//Pyro//Geek
Location: New Zealand

Total posts: 261
Posted:Do you have sensitive skin or anything? Does it get irritated if you rub a little kero/white gas mixture onto the inside of your wrist or similar area?

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SpinnerofDetroit
GOLD Member since Oct 2009

SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA

Total posts: 2280
Posted:Maybe that guy has calluses on his hands? Or maybe your hands are not well tempered to heat. Mine aren't very much, but they're getting better from handling hot soup all the time at work. Also, do you have metal-wire reinforced Kevlar, or HoP Kevlar, or something else?

The only luck is bad luck.

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Jameth
GOLD Member since May 2008

Jameth

enthusiast
Location: NSW

Total posts: 378
Posted:Was the other guy using the same fuel? I don't know the exact figures (and it's too late here for me to look them up) but iirc white gas burns at a much higher temp than kero, much easier to burn yourself with.

That still doesn't explain why the chains weren't hotter than the wick though: maybe Icarus Forde is right and it's some kind of allergy rather than a straight burn.


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Mother_Natures_Son
SILVER Member since Aug 2007

Mother_Natures_Son

Rampant whirler.
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!

Total posts: 2418
Posted:If its not an allergy, the most likely thing to have happened was that a small amount of fuel was put onto your body which burned for a small time.

If the staff guy was able to do transfers, the fuel on your body could very easily ignite and it would burn away in a short time, but it would be a few seconds more than the staffer would have left it on his palm. (which is much less sensitive than your wrists)


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liquidtrance


liquidtrance

i dream in circles...
Location: Scotland

Total posts: 336
Posted:i know you said you got them off quickly but with fire a fraction of a second is enough to do that, I've got a braided kevlar print on my forearm from last year cos i got a bit lost in the flow and did a wrap a tiny bit too slowly, move went smoothly and didn't think there was a problem at the time but when i'd cleaned the soot off my arms... what a mess cry shocked pretty much the only burn I've picked up since i started spinning but just shows what can happen with a tiny lapse in concentration eek shrug

even chuck norris can't pin you down if your on fire

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SpinnerofDetroit
GOLD Member since Oct 2009

SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA

Total posts: 2280
Posted:I've gotten ouch-es from doing grabs on my wick because it's not big enough to hold with my entire hand and the part that's not holding it gets burned. It's never been an actual, but it burns for a second in my hand tongue2

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EpitomeOfNovice
GOLD Member since Sep 2009

EpitomeOfNovice

Putting the "FUN" in fundamental since 1981
Location: Dover, Delaware USA

Total posts: 787
Posted:How long were you spinning for before the burn? If the wicks themselves were smoldering they would be far hotter than the chain (and more likely to leave a burn over hot metal for many reasons), unlike the flame stemming from the fuel/vapor on the wicks without causing them to smolder/overheat yet.

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