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Ashmore
Ashmore

stranger
Location: The Netherlands
Member Since: 27th Oct 2009
Total posts: 12
Posted:I should like to start particing with fire poi for the first time.
Does anyone have some tips or pointers??

All advice thank you can give is welcome wink


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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

owner of the group property
Location: Seattle, WA
Member Since: 3rd Aug 2009
Total posts: 1277
Posted:Not much to say except to pick poi that are a comfortable weight, and to start off with simple, well-practiced moves.

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EpitomeOfNovice
EpitomeOfNovice

Putting the "FUN" in fundamental since 1981
Location: Dover, Delaware USA
Member Since: 15th Sep 2009
Total posts: 787
Posted:Have all your gear ready and laid out once you get to your "spin zone" and have a safety with you who knows how to use everything. Also make sure the conditions are good and the ground you're spinning on is safe as well (even land, no bumps or debris, not slippery, open space, etc).

Other than that, just be dressed appropriately for spinning and be comfortable with your poi. Making sure they are properly fueled and blotted/squeezed/spun out enough is important too. Be ready to expect the jet engine noise poi make and wait for the flame to encompass the wick before you actually start spinning. Take it slow, get a feel for it, and stay in your comfort zone. Last but not least, know how to put them out with the help of your spotter and a damp towel.

I recommend lighting with a candle if it is cold where you are too BTW.My first spin was a few weeks ago so here is my advice to pass on.

Most of it is getting out there and actually doing it, so be safe and well prepared then go get to spinning yes


~Rock on!~

"As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough"-Waking Life

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patrick076
stranger

Member Since: 10th Apr 2010
Total posts: 1
Posted:select poi with comfortable weight and then workout with simple movements and practice

Patrick

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Flint_413
Flint_413

Fire Artist and Hooper
Location: U.S.A
Member Since: 8th Jul 2009
Total posts: 181
Posted:Start with cathedral heads. They produce a decent flame with decent burn time thats not too big or long to handle but just right. Have a spotter. Wear cotton, denim, or leather. Have all your safety bases covered. WATCH THE VIDEO malcolm sends with the poi. Its corny but it has TONS of info grin make sure you blot too! Also, read up on ur fuel to make sure u have the right kind. Also dont get carried away with safety to the point ur unsafe. Like the kid who wore wet clothes under dry clothes, caught himself on fire then steamed himself like a lobster frown

Your first time spinning with fire is something you'll remember forever. I remember mine. Hands shaking so bad I could barely light them. They finally got lit and all my fear went away. Then it was on. I started with a buzzsaw to my spotter's (which was my mother) horror! Hahahaha!! Its magickal so HAVE FUN!!!!!! grin

Feel free to PM me if you need.


If you can't stand the heat, get out of my way.

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eca
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
Member Since: 14th Mar 2010
Total posts: 197
Posted:I can't imagine that the very first thing I'd do after lighting up would be spinning them near/towards my face. I do have a fair share of facial hair though...

"Think of the pussy, Weevil."
"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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Flint_413
Flint_413

Fire Artist and Hooper
Location: U.S.A
Member Since: 8th Jul 2009
Total posts: 181
Posted:I was possesed by a fire demon ubbangel

If you can't stand the heat, get out of my way.

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SpinnerofDetroit
SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:I have mine on video. Mine was such a memorable moment and I had a couple badass moments where I just looked amazing. Like my whirling, then I got dizzy and the amazingness fell apart and turned silly. m My first buzzsaw was near the end. the entire time I was worrying the heck out about getting hit. My second burn I learned that getting hit does no harm and was like "Hey! nothing happened!" and I proceeded to whack myself a few times with lit fire poi in my amusement grin

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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eca
member
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Member Since: 14th Mar 2010
Total posts: 197
Posted:I *MAY* be both purchasing and using a set of fire poi for the first time tomorrow night! I almost feel I should be able to transition through my repertoire of moves better before I do but I think I'd do alright.

"Think of the pussy, Weevil."
"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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SpinnerofDetroit
SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:It's ok, your first time spinning fire isn't about putting on a show or anything tongue2 Because it's nt gonne be glorious, well it probably will be for you grin Have fun and don't kill yourself wink

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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eca
member
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Member Since: 14th Mar 2010
Total posts: 197
Posted:I didn't get fire poi yet, should have some cathedral head poi in the next few days though (possibly even tonight :D).

Coleman Camp Fuel = White gas correct?


"Think of the pussy, Weevil."
"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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SpinnerofDetroit
SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:Yes, but I would more suggest using kerosene until you're better at not hitting yourself because the excess fuel of white gas will stay on fire when it comes off frown

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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Flint_413
Flint_413

Fire Artist and Hooper
Location: U.S.A
Member Since: 8th Jul 2009
Total posts: 181
Posted:Yeah, dont screw around with White Gas, its great! But add some kero to it or else there will be a WHOOSH and no more eyebrows..... Or face duck. My first burn was actually a performance. Well kind of, I had my first burn then did my performance. I guess it was my second burn but there were like 2 hours in between tongue2

If you can't stand the heat, get out of my way.

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SpinnerofDetroit
SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:The only thing I would really reccomend white gas for is putting about 1/5 white gas to 4/5 kerosene when it's cold to get it to light. Or if you need a quick light fro a performance. Or actually if you're inside and can't have any smoke for a performance, but that's not going to be for a long time if you even ever get into that.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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eca
member
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Member Since: 14th Mar 2010
Total posts: 197
Posted:I was with a bunch of spinners last night and couldn't stand the stank of the kero (the smoke was no bother), white gas sounds as if it's not worth the risk, and lamp oil is stupid expensive (I can get 4x the amount of white gas for the same price).

I could probably get used to the smell of kero... Is there a fuel redily available that is cheaper than lamp oil, cleaner than kero, and safer than white gas? If not I'll just go with kero until I can afford to buy lamp oil.

Getting my cathedral head poi next Monday so I've got a week to figure that all out.


"Think of the pussy, Weevil."
"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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EpitomeOfNovice
EpitomeOfNovice

Putting the "FUN" in fundamental since 1981
Location: Dover, Delaware USA
Member Since: 15th Sep 2009
Total posts: 787
Posted:You can get lamp oil (ultra-pure and a decent amount too) for around $6 for a half gallon (which would last a really long time and is safe to store indoors), you just have to shop around hardware stores and online hardware overstock outlets as well.

I'm switching because K-1 is not good for apartment living or asthma, plus it burns at a lower temperature with a more stable flame and high flash point (in theory that should be much safer for summer conditions). Make sure the lamp oil is ultra-pure to minimize residue and have the lowest emissions.

Just a little suggestion from one beginning fire spinner (I only have a few burns under my belt) to another. smile


~Rock on!~

"As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough"-Waking Life

(All you RLers this is epitome_of_lame *waves hello*)

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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

Rampant whirler.
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Member Since: 1st Aug 2007
Total posts: 2418
Posted:Lamp oil has a different flash point depending on the brand and the place its sold in, be sure to get accurate LOCAL information about the kinds of fuels you intend to use.

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eca
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Location: Minneapolis, MN
Member Since: 14th Mar 2010
Total posts: 197
Posted:Haven't checked any hardware stores yet, though ghetto-mart (K-mart) sells 1L bottles of Coleman ultra-pure lamp oil for nearly $10 (a gallon of white gas is just over $10), that's the only place around here I've seen either fuel.

Going to check the hardware store on Wednesday.


"Think of the pussy, Weevil."
"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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SpinnerofDetroit
SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:Well, I've actually, pretty quickly gotten to love the smell of kerosene. It makes me think of fun grin Maybe it'll do the same for you. I'd say go a while with K-1 and see if the smell still bothers you, if it soes, you should probably switch to something. About white gas. I've had experience, if it get on you (my face) it stays on fire and is very very hot frown I don't want you or anyone else to experience such a horror. There has never been anything as scary in my life as the moment that I saw fire out of the bottom corner of my eye and I am so lucky the fuel in my mouth didn't light and I didn't breathe in lit fuel as I would probably be dead.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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Icarus Forde
Icarus Forde

Just Icarus//Spinner//Pyro//Geek
Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 10th Apr 2010
Total posts: 261
Posted:Yeah, I've gotten over it really fast as well. It doesn't bother me, the first time I burnt was interesting, using double staffs and being surrounded by kero fumes was.... Not very nice, but heck, I love the smell now.

However, the rest of my family hates it. xD


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SpinnerofDetroit
SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:Hah, my mom like it, but hates it in the house. Actually the first few times I burned I didn't even notice the fumes.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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Icarus Forde
Icarus Forde

Just Icarus//Spinner//Pyro//Geek
Location: New Zealand
Member Since: 10th Apr 2010
Total posts: 261
Posted:My mom hates it. tongue2

That being said, she hates all fire related things. grin

Actually, I don't think that she realized what I was actually doing the first couple of times when I told her what I was doing... I think she thought I was kidding. wink


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SpinnerofDetroit
SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA
Member Since: 25th Oct 2009
Total posts: 2280
Posted:Wow really? My german exchange student that introduced me to this stuff said he went an entire year with his parents not knowing about any of it laugh3 And he showed them some pictures and they thought it was cool. But I guess they don't like hom doing it, probably mainly the fire breathing, can't say I blame them. He even uses charcoal lighter fluid. If I ever breathe fire again at least I know kerosene/lamp oil wont light on my skin.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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Jameth
Jameth

enthusiast
Location: NSW
Member Since: 19th May 2008
Total posts: 378
Posted:There was a bloke on youtube doing firebreathing with what he said was ultrafine cornstarch: I didn't follow it up, but if it works it'd probably be a fair bit safer than any of the petrochemical liquids...

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aston
aston

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Location: South Africa
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2007
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Posted:http://www.homeofpoi.com/ubbthreads/ubbt...html#Post322694
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Will probably be discussed somewhere in here.


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letitburn
letitburn

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Location: hongcouver
Member Since: 15th Apr 2010
Total posts: 44
Posted:kerosine the new afrodesiac (phonetics censored tryin to spell that word) of the year

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