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eca
BRONZE Member since Mar 2010

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Location: Minneapolis, MN

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Posted:So, in learning the 3bt weave I did my left hand on top first, but I get into the three beat by crossing my right poi to my left and bring the left over top.

Because that's how I get into the 3bt have I screwed myself from learning the reverse?


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"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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Smurf24029
GOLD Member since Sep 2009

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Location: Tacoma, Washington

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Posted:I dont believe you can screw yourself out of learning a trick. Just gotta be determined to really learn it. as for the weave it the same concept reverse. You move your hand under the other instead of over. I remember when I learned this that the poi came at my head a lot in the process.

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eca
BRONZE Member since Mar 2010

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Location: Minneapolis, MN

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Posted:Well, when I start my normal 3bt, I lead with my right hand going under my left. After that, it's the normal over/under. Not sure if starting with one hand under is going to cause problems or not.

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"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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meshunderlay
BRONZE Member since Sep 2008

meshunderlay

Juggler/Spinner
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA

Total posts: 612
Posted:I'm afraid I might be confused.... To go from split time forward into a 3bt weave you need to move one hand on top and one underneath and switch which side of the body they are on.... So unless I'm confused, you aren't doing anything wrong. *shrug*.

Now, just turn 180 degrees while spinning and see if reverse just... happens... =)


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eca
BRONZE Member since Mar 2010

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Location: Minneapolis, MN

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Posted:I tried that thinking the same thing, and smacked myself in the face and the back of the head simultaneously...

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"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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meshunderlay
BRONZE Member since Sep 2008

meshunderlay

Juggler/Spinner
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA

Total posts: 612
Posted:That happens to me too. Right now it's happening when I try to turn from a 3bt btb weave into a reverse 3bt btb weave.... Good times.

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SpinnerofDetroit
GOLD Member since Oct 2009

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Location: Trenton, MI, USA

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Posted:Yup, good times indeed. Where tha absolute simplest thing in poi entertains you fully.

The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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eca
BRONZE Member since Mar 2010

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Location: Minneapolis, MN

Total posts: 197
Posted:Is there a specific turn (or way to turn) that I should try?

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"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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meshunderlay
BRONZE Member since Sep 2008

meshunderlay

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Location: Hicksville, New York, USA

Total posts: 612
Posted:I would say just make sure you are spinning slowly to learn, and turn when it feels comfortable.

Maybe try one hand at a time to get used to turning will it's going, or try turning from split time forward into split time reverse with no weave. *shrug*


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eca
BRONZE Member since Mar 2010

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Location: Minneapolis, MN

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Posted:Sounds like some sound advice to me. Thanks for the help.

I doubt (and hope, and pray) that it doesn't take me as long to learn the reverse weave as it did the forward weave. I have a feeling that anything btb is going to stress me out horribly


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meshunderlay
BRONZE Member since Sep 2008

meshunderlay

Juggler/Spinner
Location: Hicksville, New York, USA

Total posts: 612
Posted:Tips for btb.... stretch alot. You don't want to hurt yourself.

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eca
BRONZE Member since Mar 2010

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Location: Minneapolis, MN

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Posted:I need to stretch more anyway... 8 months ago I was able to lean forward and put my hands flat on the floor. Now, I'd be amazed if I could reach my ankles doing the same.

*Sigh* I guess that's what happens when you ride 300-400 miles a week on a bicycle and don't stretch.


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"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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VillageIdiot
SILVER Member since Dec 2009

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Posted:For waist wrap weaves/btb fountain/forwards btb weave into backwards btb weave, I found it really useful to count the beats in your head before changing sides. 1,2,3.. in front on one side, 1,2,3.. behind, and 1,2,3 in front on the other side. The move is a lot easier if you're comfortable with waist wraps and meltdowns.

I second that comment about stretching - I was out of commission for hours while learning waist wrap weaves without stretching beforehand.

Happy spinning!

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eca
BRONZE Member since Mar 2010

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Location: Minneapolis, MN

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Posted:I think I'm close to getting it... well, I can turn 180 without smacking myself now grin.

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"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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Rives
GOLD Member since Jun 2009

Rives

Nothing but circles and smiles...
Location: Tampa, FL USA

Total posts: 118
Posted:ha, short answer to the original question, no. as you get comfortable with a 3 beat forwards, then reverse, then the turn, and start to move onward from there, you will figure out that you can get in and out of weaves more and more easily.

you didn't learn anything wrong, just give it time, and remember every one spins a little different.


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DyamiTK
GOLD Member since Mar 2008

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beginner forever
Location: Santa Cruz, Ca

Total posts: 159
Posted:Yeah your probably screwed.

You've made to many bad habits for yourself, it is going to be impossible to get untied at this point.

You may as well give up.

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Have you tried saying the three beat patterns to yourself as you spin them? As you go through a forwards each hand goes:
Over, then Under, then Back to uncrossed, then repeats again.
A backwards three beat is the reverse direction of that. Each hand goes: Under, then Over, then Back.

If you haven't already, watch Nick's Woolsey's video on turning with weaves:




don't get in the habit of giving up, it gets in the way of your learning.


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brenonfire413
SILVER Member since Dec 2009

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Location: New Orleans, LA United States

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Posted:Haha, don't feel too bad. I managed to un-learn a trick. I could do a reverse btb 3 beat weave, then one day I messed up doing it and ever since then I cannot do it at all. I'm sure if I devoted enough time just doing that one thing then it would come back but so far nothing. It's just frustrating because that trick has taken plenty of time to get down and now suddenly it's mocking my efforts. I can start it but at this one point going from left to right everything falls apart and the poi simultaneously smack me in the torso.

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aston
SILVER Member since Dec 2007

aston

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Location: South Africa

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Posted:Originally Posted By: DyamiTKdon't get in the habit of giving up, it gets in the way of your learning.

Probably one of the best life philosophies around actually....


'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Posted:Sometimes I find if I have a couple drink before I go out I do a lot better. If you're not legal, don't do this.

Start by spinning your poi forward in split time. Just close your eyes and keep spinning. Sometimes I'll spin for a couple minutes before I make a move. Just wait until you feel your arms are synced and ready to make the move that your brain knows, but your body doesn't.

You're going to hit yourself, it's inevitable. Use it as motive to get it right. Just try and feel the motion in your mind and eventually your body will follow. Good luck!


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eca
BRONZE Member since Mar 2010

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Location: Minneapolis, MN

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Posted:Just got it! It's choppy, and feels weird, but I got it grin

"Think of the pussy, Weevil."
"What's a pussy-weevil?"

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Jameth
GOLD Member since May 2008

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Posted:Hooray! Once you got the move an hour or two's practice should fix the weird and choppy bits. smile

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