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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:the other day i saw my buddy do a isolated hyper loop anyone else done one? could you? if anyone else has any moves that to "our" knowledge there are no videos for please share

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eca
BRONZE Member since Mar 2010

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Location: Minneapolis, MN, USA

Total posts: 197
Posted:Is this what your buddy was doing?





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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:no thats actually somthing completely different very interesting though but what he did was a isolated weave and from that to a isolated hyperloop like a isolated buzzsaw and another idea i just had and have done a little bit is a split time butterfloop

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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liquidtrance


liquidtrance
i dream in circles...
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Posted:split time butterfloop works fine, just an adjustment in hand position. Not quite sure what you mean with the isolated hyperloop but I am working with antispin&inspin motion from orbitals if thats relevant? I think maybe the inspin orbital might be what you describe...
infinate hyperloops also have a rotational handpath even though they are not isolated, might appear that way though if you haven't seen them before...

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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:i think tat may be what i am talking about cuz now that i think about it i think it was a infinite

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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SpinnerofDetroit
GOLD Member since Oct 2009

SpinnerofDetroit
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Location: Trenton, MI, USA

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Posted:I've done the anti-inspin with orbitals, antispin tends to make the orbital fall apart and loose momentum pretty quickly.

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Smurf24029
GOLD Member since Sep 2009

Smurf24029
Poi Master Smurf
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA

Total posts: 343
Posted:I know what the trick is. I can do it one direction but is very difficult. Its like a hyper loop but you dont give it the same amount as power. Instead you isolate it, it does have the same concept as a hyper loop in that it has to make an odd number of beats before you can release it on the other side. I've always called it crossed isolation. I like this trick because amongst ravers that spin it trips them out. Isolation but better tongue2

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Tankboy
SILVER Member since Jan 2006

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Location: San Francisco, Ca, USA

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Posted:This trick is an Inversion.....the only difference is that you are allowing the chains to touch.

Old school Tech.

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SpinnerofDetroit
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Posted:I've done this a lot on accident practicing an isolated buzzsaw. I think it's cool because I can go from an isolated buzzsaw to an orbital and it looks so cool grin

The only luck is bad luck.

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liquidtrance


liquidtrance
i dream in circles...
Location: Scotland

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Posted:didn't think of that tankpoi, hit the nail on the head grin

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Smurf24029
GOLD Member since Sep 2009

Smurf24029
Poi Master Smurf
Location: Tacoma, Washington, USA

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Posted:as far as i know inversions the Poi rolls around your arms. With the trick I know as this as a tangle trick. crossed like a hyperloop, not inverted like when you go into a straightjacker

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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:no new random moves that you havent seen on a vid? come on now people i know someone has something up your sleeve

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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leospoi
SILVER Member since Feb 2008

leospoi
Poi explorer
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

Total posts: 108
Posted:Well, I've come up with so many random stuff that I can't recall most of it without checking my Poi diary. Just off the top of my head is floor plane waistwrap, behind back floats, pulling OH stalls to an extension, etc.

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aston
SILVER Member since Dec 2007

aston
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Posted:Floor plane waistwrap? How does that one work?

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"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:i would be interested to see that smile could you post a vid

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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Rives
GOLD Member since Jun 2009

Rives
Nothing but circles and smiles...
Location: Tampa, FL USA

Total posts: 118
Posted:to comment on the original discussion, I do believe an inversion with the chains touching would look like an isolated hyper-loop. I do inversions and these happen by accident often.

i tried a floor plane waist wrap a little while ago and deemed it impossible... i was clearly mistaken. my only option now is to track down any one who knows how to do it and lock them in a room until they teach it to me. tongue2

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poifull_spirit
GOLD Member since Mar 2009

journeyman
Location: Australia

Total posts: 64
Posted:ok, so i have to credit pineapple pete and G with this move. it's called a mid-airwrap.

hold the Poi from the head spin in same direction and airwrap. as you airwrap, let go of the Poi and as the Poi twist together and untwist, the handles will swing around towards you. catch the handles and pull out of the airwrap and keep spinning.

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poifull_spirit
GOLD Member since Mar 2009

journeyman
Location: Australia

Total posts: 64
Posted:for my part though i like doing isolated fountain, not as easy as you'd think cos you gotta work hard to get that windmill section properly isolated

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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:this is an interesting thought never thought o that sounds like i have more stuff to add to my list

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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leospoi
SILVER Member since Feb 2008

leospoi
Poi explorer
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

Total posts: 108
Posted:Yeah try the isolations behind the head and while you're at it also try the behind the head cateyes, though it only seems to work in one direction.

For the floorplane waistwrap, you have to go beyond the mental constraints of your body being static while the Poi move around you. Instead imagine how the move should look like and then move your body accordingly to make the move possible, in fact this is a good suggestion to follow for all other Poi Tricks. Don't let your body get in the way of your Poi.

Anyways, first learn 'the matrix' which is essentially a corkscrew under your back and if you keep exploring other floorplane spaces you'll eventually stumble upon the waistwrap.

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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:well i first must learn the waist wrap i have troubles putting both hands behind my back but it shouldn't be to hard i learned the meltdowns already

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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Rives
GOLD Member since Jun 2009

Rives
Nothing but circles and smiles...
Location: Tampa, FL USA

Total posts: 118
Posted:this may be hard to follow (may be a wee bit drunk)

Alternating pentagram wall-plane:
-start your Poi spinning split time reverse opposite with your right hand over left.
-begin the pentagram(five point star) pointing to the left.
-after your hands do their vertical floats, before your hands go back to the starting position, you should have your left hand over your right.
-at this point start a pentagram pointing to the right.
-switch back to a pentagram pointing to the left after the vertical floats.
- repeat.

this creates a crazy looking pattern that resembles a star of David with an x in the middle.

what do you think? does that make any sense?

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leospoi
SILVER Member since Feb 2008

leospoi
Poi explorer
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada

Total posts: 108
Posted:Sounds plausible, but I have to see it to believe it, post a LED or fire photo.

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AlienJon
GOLD Member since Mar 2002

AlienJon
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Posted:I agree with Tankboy, in that it is the exact same configuration as split-same 1st degree inversion, but instead of rolling the nexus at the wrists, you move it farther down to the tethers.

Now to get really oldschool on yo ass: What most people call a hyperloop was once called a "maxiplus hyperloop" and hyperloop was used to describe a bunch of different tangles. What most people call an inversion is more specifically a split-same 1st degree inversion. There are plenty of 0 degree inversions (for instance, sustaining a buzzsaw is a sustained 0-degree inversion, woohoo). and plenty of 1st degree inversions. Not just in split-same but all 4 timing-direction modes as well.

I've been able to get a really sloppy second degree inversion (split-same) in floor plane.

Anyway, tangles and inversions use the same form, just a matter of the nexus being in the arms or the tethers.
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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:what about you alien jon? do you have any ideas for tricks you haven't seen or heard of?

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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sbenge
GOLD Member since May 2008

sbenge
oddball
Location: Wellington, New Zealand

Total posts: 20
Posted:random concept i found whilst mucking around with pendulum poi
i found you need to just be pinching the grips of your handles between the tips of your fingers to do this
so from your standard 3 beat weave after crossing over your hands you tuck the handle from the Poi in your bottom hand in snug with your second poi's handle greating a little tangle
your now having the two Poi continue to tangle beside you you then swap back across your body let them unwrap and your tangled Poi will fly free
still working on getting a nice release on it

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Teamo
GOLD Member since Dec 2009

Teamo
Almost again
Location: Finland

Total posts: 124
Posted:Played around with the pendulum-antispin CAP that drex had a blog on a while ago. Figured that it can easily be turned upside down, with an extension on top, and the hand doing the stalling on the up-petal instead of the down-petal at the end of the pattern.

And once you have the pattern down both ways, "right-side up" and "upside-down", all the 4 variations flow nicely into each other.

I turned it also 90 degrees to both directions, but don't think those looked quite as pretty. But they're possible.

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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:had an idea today only actually pulled it off once but it is a spiral wrap with a tangle right before it starts wrapping your arms then right before it comes out all the way turn into hyperloop or orbital oh and you can also turn before it unwraps your hands i did it on accident while i was spinning walking home but also did something that looks pretty cool while doing a orbital i rapidly moved my arms from side to side and it looked pretty awesome

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:some other things i have been playing around with that i am going to be putting some vids on here to show them are orbital fountains, hyperloop fountains, and like bendy orbitals but i will put vids up later tonight as to show what i mean

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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EpitomeOfNovice
GOLD Member since Sep 2009

EpitomeOfNovice
Putting the "FUN" in fundamental since 1981
Location: Dover, Delaware USA

Total posts: 787
Posted:Got any ideas of more advanced movements/classes of movements that work well with high energy dance/expression/music?

Even a fierce/crunchy interpretation/variation of something normally not used in such a way...

So far I've been toying with remixing the chase flower into something gritty and clutch! yes

~Rock on!~

"As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough"-Waking Life

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Midkiff
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

shadow stranger
Location: Carmi, Illinois, USA

Total posts: 462
Posted:well you could work on speed changes get really good with spinning at super high speeds and ridiculously slow speeds and then work on changing from speeds rapidly at a moments notice and also work on being able to do any of your tricks at every possible point you can think of

"Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able, and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?" - Epicurus

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