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starFury
BRONZE Member since Oct 2009

starFury

stranger
Location: Mui Ne, Vietnam

Total posts: 5
Posted:Greetings and much love to the HoP massive!

This is my first post here, but I've been lurking for a while. My name's Sven, I grew up in Australia (born in East-Berlin), I love to spin sticks grin

I've been living in Vietnam for about 6 months now, about a month ago I finally met the right person, they told me most emphatically that, with what I do, I really need to be in Mui Ne. So Mui Ne is this little kite-surfing beach resort town about 5hrs north by bus of Saigon/Ho Chi Minh City (capital of Vietnam). I spin double staffs at a lot of the bars/restauraunts/clubs that are on the beach. I've been here just over 2 weeks now and intend to stay for the duration of the high season (2-3 more months). I've been lighting up about 5-8 times a night for 16 consecutive nights now.....

The fuel I use is the local kerosene, it comes from a bowser at the petrol stations for like 60c/L.

But now I've broken out in spots.....little red ones, maybe 2mm across, they're mostly just on my upper body with a few on my upper arms and legs. I also have what I won't call a headache, but there's this kind of dull pressure in my skull, particularly behind my eyes. Other than that I feel fine.

I'm generally very healthy and I think the past 6 months living here in South-East Asia has probably gone a long way to strengthening my immune system. It's also very easy to eat extremely well here and I'm doing that too.....

But regardless, I'm inhaling a _lot_ of these kerosene fumes and now I'm rather concerned.....

Ok, so obviously, new fuel is required, I'm hoping to be able to find some kind of lamp oil. Also I'll be looking for a face-mask like the ones spray-painters use, maybe paint some flames on it, all part of the act, folks!

So has anyone encountered issues like this before? Or perhaps you might have suggestions for hastening my bodies detoxification process? Maybe you've spun flames in South-East Asia and could recommend a fuel? Any help in this issue would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks in advance all for reading...

Happy spinning!

Sincerely and gratefully yours,
Sven aka starFury_


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brenonfire413
SILVER Member since Dec 2009

brenonfire413

Fire Spinner Exarch
Location: New Orleans, LA United States

Total posts: 514
Posted:Damn thats awful. How long does it take for the spots to go away? A new fuel would definitely be in order!

"Are you sure it's safe to drink bleach?"
"Yes, bleach is 90% water, we are 90% water, therefore: we are bleach."
-Nathan Explosion, Metalocalypse

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Felex
SILVER Member since Jun 2009

Felex

Destroyer of worlds and ooo shiny.
Location: In my own head

Total posts: 268
Posted:Theres a fair to middling chance the paraffin (kerosene) is not as pure as what you normally work with,
and 5-8 times a night for 16 consecutive nights is a heck of a lot to expose your self too a toxic substance.
If you can dont do anything with fire for a few days see what happens.


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Woodsy
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

Spanking you kindly.
Location: East Side Aussie

Total posts: 156
Posted:Consult a medical professional straight away, we dont want you dropping dead frown

But yes you should get a gas mask like the spray painters use if you're going to spin that frequently.

And defiantly use a different fuel, preferably one not from a bowser


Woodsy:Down with the sound, and the people will all yell: "POWER IS MEASURED IN, DECIBEL".
Poje: not Joules?
Woodsy: No...Never grin

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Eera


old hand
Location: In a test pit, Mackay

Total posts: 1107
Posted:The MSDS states that you'll get redness, itching and pain from skin contact (I'm looking at a generic one that I have next to me). Are you wearing anything on your top when you're spinning? Inhalation causes a headache amoung other things.

The best thing you can do is take a break for a while and let your body recover, swapping to a different fuel is likely to have the same affect in the long term for the level of your exposure.


There is a slight possibility that I am not actually right all of the time.

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Woodsy
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

Spanking you kindly.
Location: East Side Aussie

Total posts: 156
Posted:Ontop of what Eera said, i would still consult a medical professional about poisoning though. I wouldnt take the risk.

Woodsy:Down with the sound, and the people will all yell: "POWER IS MEASURED IN, DECIBEL".
Poje: not Joules?
Woodsy: No...Never grin

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SpinnerofDetroit
GOLD Member since Oct 2009

SpinnerofDetroit

All High Dude, Ruler of What You Want
Location: Trenton, MI, USA

Total posts: 2280
Posted:I have only one word I CAN say for you:

Doctor


The only luck is bad luck.

Shut up before I stall my poi up your ass grin

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Posted:you will want to wear sleaves ive broken out in a way before with bare skin and wraps but i figured it was a combo of my rigs were older kindof letting some of its fiber glass out and kero

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starFury
BRONZE Member since Oct 2009

starFury

stranger
Location: Mui Ne, Vietnam

Total posts: 5
Posted:Thanks so much, everyone, for your replies!

So I went on a bit of a mission to the nearest big town to see a doctor, was somewhat concerned initially that I might end up seeing some kind of witch-doctor or something but they were running a fairly slick operation. Doctor I ended up seeing spoke good English too, had just come back from a year in Sydney.

So he took a look at the spots. Nausea? No. Vertigo? No. Looked in my mouth briefly. Blood pressure. Took some blood. The blood came back normal except for something called C-Reactive-Protein being inflamed. Diagnosis: Dermatitis caused by an allergic/toxic reaction. Prescription: Antihistamines and a topical cream....

So this would seem like the usual doctors strategy of treating the symptoms........ Meanwhile, I've found a place that has a sauna, so I've been doing +30mins in there each day. Also on tons of fluids and just otherwise being super healthy (heaps of fresh fruit n veg, green tea for the antioxidants, lots of vitamins, these funky digestive minerals and I don't drink alcohol or smoke [cigarettes] anyway)....

Somehow I think my body knows what it's doing, it's doing it's best to push these toxins out and I don't expect that to happen overnight.

Other than that, the next time someone comes up from Saigon, I'll get them to find me a proper respirator (as I couldn't find any at the hardware stores in Phan Thiet) and, in lieu of long sleeves (it's hot as here!), I'm gonna coat myself in a layer of coconut butter......

In conclusion: 16 nights in a row doing shows is _too much!_.....

So it's everything in moderation, right?...... (especially moderation!)

Much love, all........ And joyous spinning!

Sincerely and (still) spottily yours,
sven aka starFury


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Woodsy
BRONZE Member since Nov 2009

Spanking you kindly.
Location: East Side Aussie

Total posts: 156
Posted:Well thats good that you're okay. Sucks that you had it, but thank god its nothing serious >.<'

Woodsy:Down with the sound, and the people will all yell: "POWER IS MEASURED IN, DECIBEL".
Poje: not Joules?
Woodsy: No...Never grin

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Stout
SILVER Member since May 2004

Stout

Pooh-Bah
Location: Canada

Total posts: 1872
Posted:The respirator sounds like a good idea, It'll look kinda funny though..Since the doctor diagnosed it as an allergic reaction, have you considered that you may be reacting to something other than the fuel?

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starFury
BRONZE Member since Oct 2009

starFury

stranger
Location: Mui Ne, Vietnam

Total posts: 5
Posted:re. the respirator: i go for a bit of a ninja look anyway, so, once i paint it black, i think the respirator might just fit right in......

and yeah, Stout, i have considered it might be something else, but the only thing i've done at all differently over this past month is the excessive fire-dancing...... : /


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Stout
SILVER Member since May 2004

Stout

Pooh-Bah
Location: Canada

Total posts: 1872
Posted:Just wondering..because you said you'd been there two weeks. Could be a switch of laundary detergent, some trees giving off pollen, something specific to the that area.

I thinking that if the Doc reccomended a cream as well as antihistamines he may be thinking it's something your getting on you, rather than in you.

I'm wondering whether the coconut oil will cut it as the kero may be soluable in the oil and cut right through it. if it's contact dermatatis and this stuff is getting on your skin I can't see any other solution than braving the extra warmth and going for long sleeves, long pants.


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starFury
BRONZE Member since Oct 2009

starFury

stranger
Location: Mui Ne, Vietnam

Total posts: 5
Posted:so it's been about 3 weeks now..... i stopped spinning with the kerosene, stopped spinning altogether with fire..... but the headaches haven't gotten any better and the spots r persisting..... i decided to come home so i'm back in australia again, home with my family..... all the doctors i've seen seem to agree it's definitely a toxic reaction, so i guess i have some form of kerosene poisoning..... now i just gotta let my body do it's thing..... so i'm in full-blown detox mode tho, i'm hoping to see some improvement in a couple of weeks if not sooner..... ~fingers crossed~

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