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or better "it's my thread and I can delete it if I want to"....

another one bites the dust

R.I.P Haiti? thread

the best smiles are the ones you lead to

sticks and stones my break my bones, but ski patrol will save me.

Just a dancer in the dark

~Rock on!~

"As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough"-Waking Life

(All you RLers this is epitome_of_lame *waves hello*)

the best smiles are the ones you lead to

sticks and stones my break my bones, but ski patrol will save me.

the best smiles are the ones you lead to

"I may lack virtue, but I'm penitent"

The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

Did something horridly offensive happen after I went to bed, I woke up and the thread was gone? I wouldn't call anything that I saw "flaming" because a contradictory opinion is not flaming.

I don't see why everyone has to agree or else, the mature thing is agreeing to disagree, but I don't feel that we're allowed that here so much or the social pressure is too great for me to express my opinions (that I tone down a great deal for this forum) and it still tends to be misinterpreted or taken out of context.

I'm glad I got to debate with Woodland Apple and some understanding about our different experiences and perceptions was coming about. That is building understanding and community.

Not everything is roses and flowers from beginning to end, nor is everything atrocious that a seeming majority disagrees with, but it takes time and communication to work those things out and I'd love to have that opportunity especially on this international forum with people of a common hobby and interest. I think it's healthy and a greatly needed thing in the world to be real, speak with truth and integrity, and work stuff out.

~Rock on!~

"As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough"-Waking Life

(All you RLers this is epitome_of_lame *waves hello*)

sticks and stones my break my bones, but ski patrol will save me.

the best smiles are the ones you lead to

"I may lack virtue, but I'm penitent"

sticks and stones my break my bones, but ski patrol will save me.

Originally Posted By: FireTomMods only lock - never delete - a thread... and also I've never heard of offensive posts being deleted by mods either.

Um. They totally delete threads dude. And I've seen offensive posts deleted as well.

But then, I'm a bit of an oldfag around here these days

The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

really? so that's a new one to me..

so far I only saw locked threads or the message that "this thread has been moved" (into oblivion)...

If posts are offensive or rated other than PG it might be useful to delete them. I got no problem with that.

If Doc decided that the Haiti thread was not what he liked to happen then it is within his range of possibilities to delete it, as he got the power to do so.

Whether or not that has been a decision I support is another question...

the best smiles are the ones you lead to

Originally Posted By: FireTom the message that "this thread has been moved" (into oblivion)...


Yep. Thats a deleted thread. Although I suspect its not actually deleted. Just moved to the Mod forum for review etc.

The existance of flamethrowers says that someone, somewhere, at sometime said "I need to set that thing on fire, but it's too far away."

I seem to remember something about asking for money/charity on the board being against the rules?

or am I making stuff up?

Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.

Word.

Some clarification...

We (Mods) rarely delete threads. The only ones I've ever deleted were ones started by spam bots as these just take up space.
Genearlly "deleted" threads are moved into a "Recycle Bin" where they stay and can be revived if there's enough call for it.

As far as I can tell, the "Haiti Eathquake Relief Dontation??" thread was put there as it was started by a spam-bot, we had a couple of notifications about it so it got pulled.

The original Haiti discussion thread was being monitored due to rising tempertatures, though it was then actually deleted accidentally (not by me...) and is currently in cyber-purgatory where it shall remain unless someone figures out how to un-delete it and everyone agrees to discuss things as opposed to bitch about each other

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Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude

the best smiles are the ones you lead to

"I may lack virtue, but I'm penitent"

That's better.

OK, maybe not the best worded response.

The Haiti "discussion" thread was deleted by accident, as opposed to moved to the recycle bin - because of this, there was no marker left along the lines of "This has descended into flaming and is no longer a discussion etc. etc". We'd had several notifications about it, and the consensus was reached.

The spam-bot Haiti discussion is in the recycle bin, though can be revived if people really want to.
Or just start a new one and try to keep it as a discussion.

The mods are watching.
Like easily-distracted eagles.

Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude

Originally Posted By: Durbs
The original Haiti discussion thread was being monitored due to rising tempertatures, though it was then actually deleted accidentally (not by me...) and is currently in cyber-purgatory where it shall remain unless someone figures out how to un-delete it and everyone agrees to discuss things as opposed to bitch about each other


Actually it should be a simple fix to just use the system restore function and sort it out from there, unless of course you shred and window wash your system after each clearing of the recycle bin. Nothing is truly irrecoverable unless you use those measures with all of your deleted files.

Like I said before, I don't know if anyone got out of control after I went to bed so I cannot speak for that, but until someone starts mudslinging and name calling (which was done to me and I notified along with complying to the OP's requests of sorting things out on their terms, but I don't deem it thread ending worthy and only the individual post flagged deserved editing), I think it's wrong to not allow people to disagree about principles and philosophies because it's a restriction of freedom of speech that has gone to the point of a strict police state. Differences are not personal and people should have the opportunity to work them out or at least reach a point of stalemate like so many topics are just going to end up in. If I, or anyone else, states facts, points out misconceptions (or inconsistencies), and back up arguments while expressing a stance/opinion on an issue I do not see how that can be considered flaming (to my knowledge that's how debates work and debate teams operate ).

If you don't mind me speaking freely for a second, I think until the definitions are clearly laid out of what is considered an offense that everyone who notifies just because they are butthurt over others simply not agreeing to their ideals or being corrected when they are incorrect with their information should be notified that their use of the feature was not correct in contextual terms or simply brushed off after review. People should have the chance to clear these things up and not be submitted to biased web forum fascism.

I hope that all came out okay and that it was understood in a constructive manner.

~Rock on!~

"As the pattern gets more intricate and subtle, being swept along is no longer enough"-Waking Life

(All you RLers this is epitome_of_lame *waves hello*)

sticks and stones my break my bones, but ski patrol will save me.

Originally Posted By: DurbsThe Haiti "discussion" thread was deleted by accident, as opposed to moved to the recycle bin - because of this, there was no marker left along the lines of "This has descended into flaming and is no longer a discussion etc. etc". We'd had several notifications about it, and the consensus was reached.

This is an even more disturbing response then the one before IMHO

Measured against other threads in the past, I couldn't see an necessity to delete the entire thread - especially not since there has been no Mod calling for prudence/ order prior to its deletion.

Either this thread has been "deleted by accident", or "a consensus was reached"... or was the consensus reached to delete the thread by accident????

the best smiles are the ones you lead to

Hehe its a good thing you lot don't post on UKC your heads would explode...

Working hard to be a wandering hippie layabout. Ten years down, five to go!

sticks and stones my break my bones, but ski patrol will save me.

I'd like to thank the mods for being responsive

i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey

Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...

Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude

*cough*

8uuummm . [that's been the comment of my hyperactive kitten walking over the keyboard ]

thanks Durbs for letting us know about the background... as this has been a very unusual event, I suspected that Mike hit the "Delete (initial) Post" button and let the thread sink...

my apologies if that has not been the case.

There must have been a few posts that I was missing out on, because as far as I witnessed it the tone has not been slipping far enough to justify a deletion.

Nevertheless better friendships are also being built by taking sides in the flaming

damn flamefarts....


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the best smiles are the ones you lead to

"I may lack virtue, but I'm penitent"