Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

owner of the group property
Location: Seattle, WA
Member Since: 3rd Aug 2009
Total posts: 1277
Posted:Hallo there.

Once again, my search didn't turn up anything, but if there actually is already a thread on this, let me know.

Derek is inciting a collaborative video effort, so I decided to see how my spinning showed up on my camera, and it turns out not great. The heads (tennis balls on one pair, pink duct tape on the other) just turn into whispy streaks on video. If someone thinks camera settings are more relevant, I can post later with the model, but first I wanted to ask if anyone has any ideas on physical modifications to the poi that could help. I'm trying to avoid sock poi or buying new cone poi if possible; going to toy with reflective tape, but any other ideas?


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aston
aston

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Location: South Africa
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2007
Total posts: 4061
Posted:Watch your background?

Not really sure though.


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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

owner of the group property
Location: Seattle, WA
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Posted:Probably is 90% of the problem. Also maybe They'd be better on a rare, non-overcast day... I'll pick a day to roam with the camera a bit for more backgrounds to see if certain backdrops help.

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Jameth
Jameth

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Location: NSW
Member Since: 19th May 2008
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Posted:Cone poi in bright colours maybe or use bright coloured ribbons to make tails for them??

Thinking about it, the daylight teaching vids I find easiest to follow have all been shot using cone poi, against a contrasty background.


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Sister Eleven
Sister Eleven

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Location: Seattle, WA
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Total posts: 1277
Posted:Right, though as I mentioned, I am trying to avoid buying a new set of poi. It's a simple solution, but also a bit of a costly one. Though it's looking like not a lot of alternatives are coming up...

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WoodlandApple
WoodlandApple

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Location: Australia
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Posted:you could try to change the framerate and the focus points on the camera, or instead of buying new poi, you could buy a new camera?
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aston
aston

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Location: South Africa
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Posted:I can almost guarantee that new poi are cheaper. tongue2

Could also be part of the problem though.


'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
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_Poiboy_
_Poiboy_

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Location: Raanana, Israel
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Posted:What sort of background were you filming against? Pink poi and tennis balls are both bright, and would therefor need to be against a dark background.
The camera might be another problem.


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Jameth
Jameth

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Location: NSW
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Posted:Originally Posted By: Sister ElevenRight, though as I mentioned, I am trying to avoid buying a new set of poi. It's a simple solution, but also a bit of a costly one. Though it's looking like not a lot of alternatives are coming up...

Another thing to try (depending on the effect you're after) might be to make the poi heavier so you can swing slower which will make them easier to see. I've been doing an intermediate poi vid intensive and comparing meenik's vids to the ones here he spins much more slowly when he's teaching: besides the bright green and orange I think he must have a fair bit of weight in there.

If you or anyone in your vicinity has even rudimentary sewing skills and access to a basic sewing machine cone poi are easy to make: 2 pieces, bottom 1/2 or so the cone, the rest a tether looped over at the top to make a single loop handle. I just leave a gap 1/2 way up to put the weight in, g force will keep it in whilst you're spinning, it doesn't need velcro.

Or adding ribbons to what you have to make a tail - there's some teaching vids on 3 worlds showing tail poi in daylight, they show up nicely.


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