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_Poiboy_
_Poiboy_

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Location: Raanana, Israel
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Posted:Hi, I saw this video by Gora Krisztian, and I've seen this thing at a fire meet a while back, and I'm wondering how to make one of these:




Drilling 4 holes into a staff seems like a bad idea since it would make that area very fragile, so how can I go about attaching the wicks? welding? smaller rods?


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Fire_Moose
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Posted:dont the spoked wicks spin?

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Robbert
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Posted:i would say that you can use a ring and attach the crossed rods and wicks on that, like chaos sticks
http://www.firetoys.co.uk/juggling/Chaos_Sticks_a.k.a._Cross_sticks__.html
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if you can weld it is easy to make, make sure that when you do you have a ring on both sides for extra strenght


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Cyricx
Cyricx

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Location: Kansas City, MO
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Posted:I don't think the spokes spin. When he's doing contact they spin, but whenever he grabs the staff firmly, they immediately stop.

If they were a moving piece, the energy would continue.


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Cyricx
Cyricx

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Posted:Yeah, here is a video that shows it clearly.




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Fire_Moose
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Posted:hmm good find. i think yer right perhaps just having the extra wicks sticking out like that cause it to roll slowly.....i need one me thinks

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Cyricx
Cyricx

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Posted:So I just finished making one last night..

Holy crap this is awesome!

I was right about the wick construction and the amount it adds to the weight of the staff increases the balance point to an insane amount. This allows it to roll easily along the body (you have to get it started first), and it appears to be spinning very quickly thanks to the 4 heads sticking out.

Mad props to Gora if he's the one that dreamed it up.


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Tide
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Posted:Out of curiosity, but does this staff naturally handle differently and require a different style to use due to its greater weight and "pokey" shape?

This statement is false...?

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OuchStaff
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Location: The netherlands
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Posted:I think it does and I also think you use a diffrent style, more focused on the spinning of the staff heads.

Ouch o.O

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Rellizate
Rellizate

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Location: Cambridge, UK
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Posted:Those are really really amazing. Does anyone know where I could purchase one?

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FireTom
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Posted:well, Gora makes and even sells them... wink

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Rellizate
Rellizate

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Posted:I don't think I know who Gora is? Could you provide any more information? Thanks alot.

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Cyricx
Cyricx

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Location: Kansas City, MO
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Posted:www.gora.hu

But he doesn't have links up to sell them. Site is under construction.

I made one myself though and it can be seen in this video. I'd only had a few days to mess with it before this.




I've really smoothed up the steve rolls and matrix after I've gotten used to it.


The staff doesn't have a huge amount of total weight. All things considered it's pretty light. But since all the weight is on the ends it has an insane balance point that makes moves like conveyor belts, matrix, shoulder neck shoulder and halos extremely easy!! Steve rolls can be a little tricky. Do to the way the weight distributes you have to get the staff spinning first. And an extra spin on your back is imperative to turn the rotation around. Unlike a normal staff, this one can't stop and start spinning by itself. You have to get it's rotation going and then figure out how to get it to turn and spin to be rolling in the direction you need.


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FireTom
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Posted:could get you in touch with him on FB...

send request to "Tom Shanti"


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