A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words...
We all take different paths in life, but no matter which path we take, we take a little of each other everywhere...
What hits the fan is not evenly distributed.
Magnus... pay it forward
quote:Yeah, but imagine what the death toll would have been if the janitor had a handgun.
Originally posted by Astar:
Spears kill people. Knives kill people (remember that janitor who stabbed 30 kids and killed 7 or something like that?)
But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.
quote:I dunno. Ray enjoyed Stupid White Men when he read it. But I don't think he has seen "Columbine", I don't think they would screen it on the military bases with the rest of the new releases
Originally posted by Salinger:
Who else has seen this film/documentary yet? I found it really interesting, drawing on things like gun culture and the nra, etc.
I dread to think what Raymund's gonna say though
Any thoughts?
quote:In terms of deaths caused by firearms in Australia, here is some info:
Firearms Reform - debated nationally for many years.
The issue of firearms reform has been on the agenda of the Australasian Police Ministers' Council many times in past years. Some of the measures agreed at the 10 May meeting had been raised in 1987 and again in 1990 and 1991. Previous Commonwealth governments were unsuccessful in their efforts to bring the States and Territories together to implement effective nationwide firearms controls.
The need to strictly control the availability of semi-automatic rifles and shotguns was reinforced by the tragic killings in Hoddle Street and Queen Street, Melbourne in 1987, Strathfield in Sydney in 1991 and at Port Arthur in 1996.
Figures prepared by the Australian Bureau of Statistics highlight the fact that in the 16 years from 1980 to 1995, more than 10,150 people were killed in firearm related deaths. *
The agreement on firearms law reform reached at the special meeting of Australasian Police Ministers on 10 May 1996 was the result of detailed preparation and extensive consultation over many years.
Working together
Governments are working with the community to remove the most dangerous firearms from circulation.
The Commonwealth is meeting the costs of establishing the firearm buyback schemes and of setting up the new licensing and registration systems. Part of the funding has gone to a 12-month firearm buyback ending 30 September 1997. In addition to the buyback, an amnesty is in place across Australia to allow for the hand-in of any firearm or ammunition without prosecution. State and Territory public education campaigns are in operation to explain the new measures. (In South Australia the buyback ended on 28 February 1997 and the amnesty ends on 30 June 1997.)
The costs of an upgrade to the central core component of the National Exchange of Police Information system, and the development of national core standards for firearms safety training for new firearms licence applicants, have also been met by the Commonwealth.
* Source: Australian Bureau of Statistics, Firearms Deaths in Australia 1980-95, ABS Catalogue No. 4397.0
quote:Australia's is not a perfect scheme. It was incredibly costly. However the country has proved that a concerted effort can bring about reform.
In a household where a firearm is kept, it is 48 times more likely that the firearm will be used to kill a member of the household than an intruder.
In the past decade 116 people have been killed in Australia and New Zealand in 14 massacres where four or more people have been shot.
Military style semi-automatic firearms were used by only six of these perpetrators, yet their victims accounted for 74% of the 116 people.
There were 84,000 firearms, excluding military firearms imported into Australia between January and December in 1995.
Research conducted for the Commonwealth in 1996 showed that 10 percent of Australians own a firearm. Sixteen percent of Australians live in a household where there is a firearm.
More information about firearm deaths and injuries in Australia is available in studies conducted by the Australian Institute of Criminology, the Institute of Health and Welfare and the Australian Bureau of Statistics
quote:The report goes on to say that whilst there has been an overall decline in homicides committed involving firearms, the pattern of homicides has changed. The number of licensed legal firearms involved in homicides has been reduced, suggesting that irresponsible and unsuitable persons have had reduced access to legal guns (gun licensing becoming more effective). However these people are also likely to obtain firearms through illegal means.
Of the 117 offenders who used firearms to commit homicide, only 11 (9.4%) homicide offenders were licensed firearms owners with registered firearms
It was a day for screaming at inanimate objects.
What this calls for is a special mix of psychology and extreme violence...
There are 10 types of people, those who understand binary and those who dont.
Enjoy - A
quote:I'd imagine that there's more evidence that killing sprees end because the shooter has turned his gun on himself. If the spree has ocured in an enclosed area, like a school, then the police do not normally enter the building through the risk of endangering more lives and their own. Moreover, they use negotiating skills to attempt to get the killer to surrender, which leads to the shooter either agreeing and leaving the building or the killer facing a realisation of what they have done and what will happen to them and then just end the situation themselves.
Originally posted by Astar:
Imagine this. People carry guns for self defense, Killing sprees rarely happen and when they do they don't get far because people defend themselves with guns.
A conspiracy of silence speaks louder than words...
Every ones a monkey!
Yes even you!
Fire... A bushmans telly