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HOP Mad Doctor
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Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Posted:
So I've noticed lately that there's some 1337 and other txt speak popping up.
I'm not a mod, but I figured I'd just give a bit of history on this. In general, I think we agreed a while back to go easy on using this shorthand.
It's not because we're the Grammar Gestapo, but because you have to remember that, although English is the language that we use on HoP, not everyone who uses HoP is a native English speaker!
So if u start txtspk cuz ur used 2 it lolz it makes it rilli hard 4 ppl from Spain or Norway 2 follow teh convo.
We're not demanding perfect spelling and grammar or anything silly like that. Just asking you not to txtspk as a matter of regular habit.
I bring this up because I'm bilingual and when I'm on some of my Spanish message boards, I sometimes have trouble with some of the posts because I don't get the Spanish txtspeak.
Sound reasonable?
So I've noticed lately that there's some 1337 and other txt speak popping up.
I'm not a mod, but I figured I'd just give a bit of history on this. In general, I think we agreed a while back to go easy on using this shorthand.
It's not because we're the Grammar Gestapo, but because you have to remember that, although English is the language that we use on HoP, not everyone who uses HoP is a native English speaker!
So if u start txtspk cuz ur used 2 it lolz it makes it rilli hard 4 ppl from Spain or Norway 2 follow teh convo.
We're not demanding perfect spelling and grammar or anything silly like that. Just asking you not to txtspk as a matter of regular habit.
I bring this up because I'm bilingual and when I'm on some of my Spanish message boards, I sometimes have trouble with some of the posts because I don't get the Spanish txtspeak.
Sound reasonable?
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Posted:
I agree txtspk is retarded, and totally misguiding for others.
EDITED_BY: doppelGanger (1232249547)
EDIT_REASON: For Mother Natures Son's below post.
I agree txtspk is retarded, and totally misguiding for others.
EDITED_BY: doppelGanger (1232249547)
EDIT_REASON: For Mother Natures Son's below post.
Human
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Rampant whirler.
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Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Rampant whirler.
2,418 posts
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Posted:
I don't mean to hurl criticism your way, doppelGanger, but i don't feel that thats the message Doc was trying to convey and probably best for a different thread. The people Doc would most like to read what he has just written and not take offense (And he has put it in such a way that it would be difficult to take offense very deliberately) are the same people that you've essentially called idiots with the following post...
I don't mean to hurl criticism your way, doppelGanger, but i don't feel that thats the message Doc was trying to convey and probably best for a different thread. The people Doc would most like to read what he has just written and not take offense (And he has put it in such a way that it would be difficult to take offense very deliberately) are the same people that you've essentially called idiots with the following post...
journeyman
99 posts
Location: canada
99 posts
Location: canada
Posted:
it would be neat if someone made a bit of php that allowed a person to convert shorthand to regular language before posting for those that are truely locked in their habbits of using shorthand.
it would be neat if someone made a bit of php that allowed a person to convert shorthand to regular language before posting for those that are truely locked in their habbits of using shorthand.
The less people know the more they believe
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Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Posted:
Originally Posted By: railspinnerit would be neat if someone made a bit of php that allowed a person to convert shorthand to regular language before posting for those that are truely locked in their habbits of using shorthand.
Gimme the HoP code and I'll do it.
Originally Posted By: railspinnerit would be neat if someone made a bit of php that allowed a person to convert shorthand to regular language before posting for those that are truely locked in their habbits of using shorthand.
Gimme the HoP code and I'll do it.
Human
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HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Posted:
Y34h, my 5u6635710n 15 pur3|y pr4c71c3|. N07 b3c4u53 1 h4v3 4 d1m v13w 0f 7x75p34k.
Y34h, my 5u6635710n 15 pur3|y pr4c71c3|. N07 b3c4u53 1 h4v3 4 d1m v13w 0f 7x75p34k.
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Posted:
Originally Posted By: Doc LightningY34h, my 5u6635710n 15 pur3|y pr4c71c3|. N07 b3c4u53 1 h4v3 4 d1m v13w 0f 7x75p34k.
crazy_speak = "Y34h, my 5u6635710n 15 pur3|y pr4c71c3|. N07 b3c4u53 1 h4v3 4 d1m v13w 0f 7x75p34k."
normal_tongue = ""
crazy_speak.each do |x|
if x == [a..z]
normal_tongue << x
else if x == [0..9]
if x == 0
normal_tongue << "o"
else if x == 1
normal_tongue << "l"
etc
etc
etc
end
end
normal_tongue
end
"My suggestion is purely practical. Not because I have a dim view of leetspeak."
Originally Posted By: Doc LightningY34h, my 5u6635710n 15 pur3|y pr4c71c3|. N07 b3c4u53 1 h4v3 4 d1m v13w 0f 7x75p34k.
crazy_speak = "Y34h, my 5u6635710n 15 pur3|y pr4c71c3|. N07 b3c4u53 1 h4v3 4 d1m v13w 0f 7x75p34k."
normal_tongue = ""
crazy_speak.each do |x|
if x == [a..z]
normal_tongue << x
else if x == [0..9]
if x == 0
normal_tongue << "o"
else if x == 1
normal_tongue << "l"
etc
etc
etc
end
end
normal_tongue
end
"My suggestion is purely practical. Not because I have a dim view of leetspeak."
Human
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Location: Bali, Australia
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
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Location: Bali, Australia
Posted:
Keep that up, Doppleganger and you'll end up sounding like Richee.
Keep that up, Doppleganger and you'll end up sounding like Richee.
.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....
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Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Posted:
That went over my head...
That went over my head...
Human
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coming to a country near you
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Location: home of the tiney toothy bear, Australia
coming to a country near you
4,696 posts
Location: home of the tiney toothy bear, Australia
Posted:
LOL thats suprisingly true.
but richee knows what he's on about, and thats good enough for me
(richee is someone who works on the site and makes lots of test threads and posts and such and english isnt his first language, which results in some confusing posts, usually for a good reason!)
hope that was accurate. if you read this richee, i think you're awesome
LOL thats suprisingly true.
but richee knows what he's on about, and thats good enough for me
(richee is someone who works on the site and makes lots of test threads and posts and such and english isnt his first language, which results in some confusing posts, usually for a good reason!)
hope that was accurate. if you read this richee, i think you're awesome
"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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enthusiast
315 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia
enthusiast
315 posts
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted:
Originally Posted By: Doc LightningY34h, my 5u6635710n 15 pur3|y pr4c71c3|. N07 b3c4u53 1 h4v3 4 d1m v13w 0f 7x75p34k.
That is so elite it's almost next level. I could barely comprehend that, which kinda proves your point of practicality.
Originally Posted By: Doc LightningY34h, my 5u6635710n 15 pur3|y pr4c71c3|. N07 b3c4u53 1 h4v3 4 d1m v13w 0f 7x75p34k.
That is so elite it's almost next level. I could barely comprehend that, which kinda proves your point of practicality.
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Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured
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Location: Over There, United Kingdom
Mistress of Pink...Multicoloured
6,140 posts
Location: Over There, United Kingdom
Posted:
I completely agree with the Doc...
English is my native language and i barely understand 'txtspk' let alone 'elite' speak!!
I'm learning other languages at the moment and I struggle so much when people even use just slang words let alone their txt abbreviations!!
I completely agree with the Doc...
English is my native language and i barely understand 'txtspk' let alone 'elite' speak!!
I'm learning other languages at the moment and I struggle so much when people even use just slang words let alone their txt abbreviations!!
Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...
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Carpal \'Tunnel
3,009 posts
Location: Bristol, UK
Carpal \'Tunnel
3,009 posts
Location: Bristol, UK
Posted:
Thanks Doc.
The main issue is foreign readers translating in thier heads or using translation software will find it difficult or impossible to read what's going on.
Having a browser with built in spell checking also helps.
Thanks Doc.
The main issue is foreign readers translating in thier heads or using translation software will find it difficult or impossible to read what's going on.
Having a browser with built in spell checking also helps.
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the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA
the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA
Posted:
Thanks for bringing this up Doc.
It is a HoP policy to try to be as clear as possible, and that came about when the whole raver speak thing happened and was hard to follow.
The issue I find with any form of translator is that slang and txtspk changes often. Anyone would be hard pressed to keep it up to date.
And yeah, Richee. We love him but I think he writes in Richee speak more than anything, but he does it in long handed english so we just nod and smile.
to Richee.
P.L.U.R.
Thanks for bringing this up Doc.
It is a HoP policy to try to be as clear as possible, and that came about when the whole raver speak thing happened and was hard to follow.
The issue I find with any form of translator is that slang and txtspk changes often. Anyone would be hard pressed to keep it up to date.
And yeah, Richee. We love him but I think he writes in Richee speak more than anything, but he does it in long handed english so we just nod and smile.
to Richee.P.L.U.R.
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
HOP Mad Doctor
13,925 posts
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Posted:
Originally Posted By: Nathaniel EverestThat is so elite it's almost next level. I could barely comprehend that, which kinda proves your point of practicality.
I used a 1337 generator to write it. I can't really take credit.
EDITED_BY: Doc Lightning (1232480214)
Originally Posted By: Nathaniel EverestThat is so elite it's almost next level. I could barely comprehend that, which kinda proves your point of practicality.
I used a 1337 generator to write it. I can't really take credit.
EDITED_BY: Doc Lightning (1232480214)
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
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HOP librarian
1,841 posts
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
HOP librarian
1,841 posts
Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
Posted:
Here is propper dehax Linux shell decoder:
Code:
#!/bin/sh
#HOP h4x0r Language Decoder
#
sed -i s/3/e/ $1
sed -i s/4/a/ $1
sed -i s/5/s/ $1
sed -i s/6/g/ $1
sed -i s/7/t/ $1
sed -i s/1/i/ $1
sed -i s/0/o/ $1
exit 0
The h4x3d language is good for passwords for example,
that make simple phrase less breakable.
I've permament problem in writing,
I'm dislexic.
feel better now,
:R
PS: If some linux geek, would tell what cause sed to forget decode
some numbers and need the script to be runned even 10 time that'd
help.
Here is propper dehax Linux shell decoder:
Code:
#!/bin/sh
#HOP h4x0r Language Decoder
#
sed -i s/3/e/ $1
sed -i s/4/a/ $1
sed -i s/5/s/ $1
sed -i s/6/g/ $1
sed -i s/7/t/ $1
sed -i s/1/i/ $1
sed -i s/0/o/ $1
exit 0
The h4x3d language is good for passwords for example,
that make simple phrase less breakable.
I've permament problem in writing,
I'm dislexic.
feel better now,
:R
PS: If some linux geek, would tell what cause sed to forget decode
some numbers and need the script to be runned even 10 time that'd
help.
POI THEO(R)IST
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what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
4,030 posts
Location: Bali, Australia
what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
4,030 posts
Location: Bali, Australia
Posted:
OK Doppelganger. Get the idea?
OK Doppelganger. Get the idea?
.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....
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Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Rancor
253 posts
Location: Right Here, USA
Posted:
Indeed I do
Indeed I do
Human
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nut.
756 posts
Location: Bouncing off the walls., England (UK)
nut.
756 posts
Location: Bouncing off the walls., England (UK)
Posted:
I have an issue with dodgy spelling (not that I'm saying I never type it)- in that I think I'm a bit OCD about it.. If I ever come across a word I think is wrong I have to immediately stop what I'm doing and go look it up (if I'm out somewhere, I have been known to write down a misspelled sign or suchlike, then look it up when I get home). Textspeak generates a 'feeling of wrongness' in my head which after a while can get almost physically painful.
However, I do fully realise this is me being a fruitcake, so it does not give me the right to shout at everyone else about spelling just 'cos I'm nuts.
I have an issue with dodgy spelling (not that I'm saying I never type it)- in that I think I'm a bit OCD about it.. If I ever come across a word I think is wrong I have to immediately stop what I'm doing and go look it up (if I'm out somewhere, I have been known to write down a misspelled sign or suchlike, then look it up when I get home). Textspeak generates a 'feeling of wrongness' in my head which after a while can get almost physically painful.
However, I do fully realise this is me being a fruitcake, so it does not give me the right to shout at everyone else about spelling just 'cos I'm nuts.
THE MEEK WILL INHERIT THE EARTH!
If that's okay with you?
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coming to a country near you
4,696 posts
Location: home of the tiney toothy bear, Australia
coming to a country near you
4,696 posts
Location: home of the tiney toothy bear, Australia
Posted:
did i hear fruitcake?
*bites*
did i hear fruitcake?
*bites* "but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"
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Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Posted:
Originally Posted By: hamamelisIf I ever come across a word I think is wrong I have to immediately stop what I'm doing and go look it up (if I'm out somewhere, I have been known to write down a misspelled sign or suchlike, then look it up when I get home).
I am like that if someone asks me something that I can not give a correct answer to immediately. I will look it up.
Can you not use a cellphone with predictive text by the way? You can then work out whether it is correct immediately.
Originally Posted By: hamamelisIf I ever come across a word I think is wrong I have to immediately stop what I'm doing and go look it up (if I'm out somewhere, I have been known to write down a misspelled sign or suchlike, then look it up when I get home).
I am like that if someone asks me something that I can not give a correct answer to immediately. I will look it up.
Can you not use a cellphone with predictive text by the way? You can then work out whether it is correct immediately.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
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travelling without moving
1,286 posts
Location: Maghull, Liverpool, United Kingdom
travelling without moving
1,286 posts
Location: Maghull, Liverpool, United Kingdom
Posted:
Originally Posted By: Pele
It is a HoP policy to try to be as clear as possible, and that came about when the whole raver speak thing happened and was hard to follow.
raver speak is only hard to follow because of the swinging jaw caused by mdma!
Originally Posted By: Pele
It is a HoP policy to try to be as clear as possible, and that came about when the whole raver speak thing happened and was hard to follow.
raver speak is only hard to follow because of the swinging jaw caused by mdma!
Heilige Scheiße, Batman kommt!
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Clique Infiltrator, Cunning Linguist and Master Debator
4,219 posts
Location: Edinburgh burgh burrrrrr, United Kingdom
Clique Infiltrator, Cunning Linguist and Master Debator
4,219 posts
Location: Edinburgh burgh burrrrrr, United Kingdom
Posted:
Bugger I feel a language rant brewing lol.....
I dont use text speak on forums. Its a no no. it also comes across as immature imho. I Have a friend who covers her bebo facebook and other networking pages with phonetic letters, text speak and local speak - thats saying dinny canny (did not, can not in scotland)etc., and it really winds me up.
So does incorrect grammar. A lot of people - too many - will use "of" instead of "have" as in "I should of got it by tommorrow."What the hell are they teaching people in schools lately? Since when does a word that basically means from or belonging to, get used to replace a word that means to possess or to cause?
I really can't fathom why people can't even try to use even a little good grammar these days. It gets my goat it really does - my 4yr old knows the difference. Now THAT makes me smile
Bugger I feel a language rant brewing lol.....
I dont use text speak on forums. Its a no no. it also comes across as immature imho. I Have a friend who covers her bebo facebook and other networking pages with phonetic letters, text speak and local speak - thats saying dinny canny (did not, can not in scotland)etc., and it really winds me up.
So does incorrect grammar. A lot of people - too many - will use "of" instead of "have" as in "I should of got it by tommorrow."What the hell are they teaching people in schools lately? Since when does a word that basically means from or belonging to, get used to replace a word that means to possess or to cause?
I really can't fathom why people can't even try to use even a little good grammar these days. It gets my goat it really does - my 4yr old knows the difference. Now THAT makes me smile
Always use "so's your face" and "only on Tuesdays" in as many conversations possible
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Are we there yet?
1,897 posts
Location: australia
Are we there yet?
1,897 posts
Location: australia
Posted:
Doc
There's 4 pages of discussion of language and HoP here:
[Old link]
Doc
There's 4 pages of discussion of language and HoP here:
[Old link]
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Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
4,061 posts
Location: South Africa
Posted:
#881013 - 01/17/09 10:20 PM - Doc
#881037 - 01/18/09 06:21 AM - DoppelGanger
So Ade: for not paying attention....
#881013 - 01/17/09 10:20 PM - Doc
#881037 - 01/18/09 06:21 AM - DoppelGanger
So Ade:
for not paying attention.... 'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
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Clique Infiltrator, Cunning Linguist and Master Debator
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Location: Edinburgh burgh burrrrrr, United Kingdom
Clique Infiltrator, Cunning Linguist and Master Debator
4,219 posts
Location: Edinburgh burgh burrrrrr, United Kingdom
Posted:
ooooh can I join in with the spanking? lol
ooooh can I join in with the spanking? lol
Always use "so's your face" and "only on Tuesdays" in as many conversations possible
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HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
4,437 posts
Location: Staines, United Kingdom
HoP's Barman. Trapped aged 6 months
4,437 posts
Location: Staines, United Kingdom
Posted:
to you all
to you all An eye for an eye only ends up making the whole world blind
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old hand
722 posts
Location: United Kingdom
old hand
722 posts
Location: United Kingdom
Posted:
lol, txtspk rulz, u r all pwned.... ARGH
I HATE text speak, I hate words like pwned, and I hate marmite!
lol, txtspk rulz, u r all pwned.... ARGH
I HATE text speak, I hate words like pwned, and I hate marmite!
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about me, realise, you are not worth revenge, you are not worth my attention, you are nothing, and that is all you ever will be.
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the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA
the henna lady
6,193 posts
Location: WNY, USA
Posted:
You're just so full of hate Sunbird.
You're just so full of hate Sunbird.
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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Lost in the Lights
101 posts
Location: BC, Canada
Lost in the Lights
101 posts
Location: BC, Canada
Posted:
1 4gr33 4b00t 7><75p34|< 831|\|g b4|\||\|3c|.
^ Without a generator. =P
1 4gr33 4b00t 7><75p34|< 831|\|g b4|\||\|3c|.
^ Without a generator. =P
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