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kash
GOLD Member since May 2006

kash

Dangerous cynic


Total posts: 166
Posted:I have been searching like a demon (well perhaps not like a demon, I havn't actually eviscerated anyone yet today) for some decent fire fan videos.



I am seriously considering getting a set of fans (what's holding me back at the mo is the thought of how much more ridiculous the neighbours will consider me if I start prancing around the garden "performing" with fans... badly - as that would be about the only outlet I have for it at the mo). What I need is inspiration.



I love burlesque (no matter how sensible and prim I try to be) and that would have an impact on how I used fans, I also love the Japanese fan dancing style, so graceful and precise and with all the little throws and stuff.



Unfortunately all my searches have yielded (less a couple of short gems) are videos falling into :

1)really badly shot, so you can't see what's going on,

2) terrible fanwork, they are [sometimes] dancing, but all they are doing with the fans is holding them up in the air, usually like they are stuck in the Y part of YMCA,

3) terrible dancing, I'm afraid that pseudo bellydance is the worst offender.

or worse, any combination of the above!



Now I'm sure there are lots of really good fan dancers out there, and they must have put together a bit of a video at some point, surely?



I'd like to see good dancing, good spinning/thowing/waving/fluttering, nicely shot. (Don't ask for much really...)



So if you know of one, or indeed have made one, I think a nice list of links would be in order. Thus I, and many after me can be inspired to part with cash and make fools of ourselves in the garden in the hope that one day, we can be as graceful, beautiful and cool as the people on the vids wink


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Rovo
GOLD Member since Jul 2003

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Location: Austin, TX, USA

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Posted:Here's my friend Grimm performing with fans.




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kash
GOLD Member since May 2006

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Total posts: 166
Posted:Thanks Rovo, that's pretty cool and original, I always thought fan dancing was a pretty girly thing (despite the martial arts thing) but he may have changed my mind.

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Yakumo
SILVER Member since May 2006

Yakumo

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Location: Oxfordshire

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Posted:Finally!! someone that can actually do something worthwhile with firefans, I must admit i expected the first cool vids I saw would be from china or japan. but not suprised at all that it's a friend of Rovo's smile

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imakokode


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Location: Paris

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Posted:>>



>> http://therob.free.fr/ima/Opera_Trinitee.wmv
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somme fans in, and the oldest vid :

>> http://therob.free.fr/ima/DemoEventails.wmv


>> all is full of love <<

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kash
GOLD Member since May 2006

kash

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Total posts: 166
Posted:Hooray! These are ace!

I particulalry liked the one where they are out in the wilds with all the mossy rocks and waterfalls and stuff, reminded me of goblins, in a good way wink


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Posted:Just incredible stuff. Very inspiring. Now if I can figure out how to do it! ;P

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Pele
BRONZE Member since Dec 2000

Pele

the henna lady
Location: WNY, USA

Total posts: 6193
Posted:Use the fans with the same arm patterns as your poi or staves. Hold them loose instead of rigid. In the videos it was just a mexican, a chase the sun, and a simple waving.

Also look into flamenco fan work. I use it alot in my fan stuff.

There are alot of amazing performers out there that don't have videos still, which is quite sad.


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Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
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"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK

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Brenn
PLATINUM Member since Jun 2004

Brenn

Will carpal your tunnel in a minute.
Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Posted:Brenn doing fire fans biggrin

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pricklyleaf
SILVER Member since Mar 2005

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Location: Manchester

Total posts: 1365
Posted:Bump!

I've just bought some fans, and still trying to get a feel for them, they're a lot different than I expected. I'm a bit scared to use them with fire at the moment, I'm not used to having the fire so close to my arm and attached to me through metal! I will bite the bullet soon though, once I've practised a bit more!

Anyway, reason for bumping this thread is that I've been struggling to find decent videos and resources, other than the ones above, and I was wondering if anyone has found anymore yet?

Youtube generally just pulls out pretty poor performances for me. Also, any other tips are greatfully received, its very weird starting a new toy again like this, especially as I started hoop fairly recently and had no problem picking that up, yet this I struggle with!


Live like there is no tomorrow,
dance like nobody is watching
and hula hoop like wiggling will save the world.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.

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bender
GOLD Member since Nov 2001

still can't believe it's not butter
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Total posts: 6979
Posted:Most of my COL 2007 is performed with HOP fire fans smile It has element of my fan show in it. I totally dig how many fresh approaches most fan dancers take, with fire fans being such under-utilised equipment.



pricklyleaf, it is a bit crap that we are so far distant - i teach structured workshops on fan movement (feminine) and fan acrobatics/technical/throws (masculine) argh maybe someday we meet, ey?


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Brenn
PLATINUM Member since Jun 2004

Brenn

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Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Posted: Written by: pricklyleaf


Bump!

I've just bought some fans, and still trying to get a feel for them, they're a lot different than I expected. I'm a bit scared to use them with fire at the moment, I'm not used to having the fire so close to my arm and attached to me through metal! I will bite the bullet soon though, once I've practised a bit more!

Anyway, reason for bumping this thread is that I've been struggling to find decent videos and resources, other than the ones above, and I was wondering if anyone has found anymore yet?




I've started writing up a fans tutorial under the library section of HoP. Much more content such as throws, framing and footwork is due to be added once I get time and good weather to film in smile
I've tried a combination of verbose descriptions and videos in my lessons so that it is accessible for people of high and low bandwidth.

Fans are a very rewarding and fun fire art smile I wish you well on your fans journey hug


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MariannaBellyDancer


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Total posts: 9
Posted:Hello Everyone,

Last night I performed for the first time with my firefans.
The video may be viewed here: http://www.marianna.cc/Videos.html

By no means do I consider it an answer to the question of "are there any decent fan videos out there?".
I would actually appreciate any and all constructive cristism. I video taped it so I can see what it actually looks like, but I am pretty happy with the turn out, because I only had the fans for about 10 days, and although i practiced an average of 20 minutes / day I only lit them twice.

These were my limitations:
- I performed inside in a restaurant (ceilings were kind of low, with all kinds of stuff hanging like lights, strobe lights, etc).
- It's a Greek restaurant so the music is usually fast, faster than usual.
- It's live music and I never know what the band will play, so I always improvise - I had a set of moves in my mind, of course some I completely forgot, because I just had to go with flow and think of things on the spot.
- some things I came up with right then and there, without knowing what it will look like.

Please give me your opinions of where I need to improve. I know there's a lot of areas.
- I know I did things too fast, next time I will slow down and add more poses.
- I am working on my spins - unlit, I can do them real well, but I was pretty scared doing them with fire - as you can see I actually did it a few times, but only 1 spin at a time, and not 10-15 as I am trying to get to.
- I basically learned from watching videos on youtube, videos linked from here and advice / descriptions from these boards. This board is great!!!

Overall I am glad nothing and no one caught on fire. The week before one of the waitresses got burned while serving the flaming cheese, but I had nothing to do with that.


thanks,
Marianna


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-sandy-
BRONZE Member since Jul 2004

-sandy-

old hand
Location: Bristol

Total posts: 716
Posted:Hello. I dont know anything about fans really but some of the chimaera girls (Gayle, Hels and Laura) put together a really great routine for our show this year.
There is a video of the full show on youtube (not amazing quality but you can still see everything) the fans routine is 6 minutes in, see what you think.



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pricklyleaf
SILVER Member since Mar 2005

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Location: Manchester

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Posted:Hey Marianna, I thought that looked pretty good. Far from being too fast, I thought it could even be a little faster (but thats my own personal preference) I'm not that keen on all the posey/fire godess things, I think they can cause a performance to drag on a bit. (But like I say, all personal preference). I'm the same with spins, I can do them fairly happily without fire, but I know once I light up, I won't be feeling so confident! Thanks for shariing

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dance like nobody is watching
and hula hoop like wiggling will save the world.

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MariannaBellyDancer


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Posted:Thanx Pricklyleaf,

I'll perform with them again this Saturday - actually twice. I can hardly wait!
I guess what I meant by too fast is that I think some things I should have done slower, but yes, some of the stuff could be much faster. I don't like in the beginning, I keep doing the same stuff.

But the flames are so big first - and it was the first time, so I think next time I'll be more comfortable.

Spins are kind of weird. I can't do them just with 1 finger, I actually have to put my middle and ring finger in the loop and then I can spin it for a while. If I only do 1 finger, the others get in the way.

Do you guys just bite the bullet and let it spin? I can do it without the flames without it touching my arms, but the flames....I know I could do it, but it's a bit scary.

Marianna


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pricklyleaf
SILVER Member since Mar 2005

pricklyleaf

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Location: Manchester

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Posted:The thing with the actual flames is they're not very hot, and won't burn you, especially as your moving through them that fast. Even if you just touch the wicks, you won't burn. (Importantly - I'm assuming you're using parraffin or equivalent here, which burns at a low temperature.). The only thing that will burn you is the metal, which gets really hot, very quickly. When practicing, I do occasionally catch myself on the metal, which is what is holding me off lighting up yet. (Although you can touch the wicks, if you do start holding onto them for a long time, then they will still burn you obviously, but if you just hit them, you'll be fine).

I don't really know what to recommend about the fingers. When I spin, I try to make my hands into a light fist and spin them on my forefingers, but I'm no expert, I don't know if there is a better or worse way to do things.


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dance like nobody is watching
and hula hoop like wiggling will save the world.

What lies behind us and what lies before us are tiny matters compared to what lies within us.

Ralph Waldo Emerson

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Kitsune34
SILVER Member since Nov 2007

Kitsune34

newbie
Location: Orlando, FL, USA

Total posts: 50
Posted: Written by: Rovo


Here's my friend Grimm performing with fans.




I told your friend to get on a tutorial for fans! What happened to that?! confused


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Brenn
PLATINUM Member since Jun 2004

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Will carpal your tunnel in a minute.
Location: Melbourne, Australia

Total posts: 3286
Posted:Common Ground 2007 performance of yours truly




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memory
SILVER Member since Dec 2006

memory

stranger
Location: San Francisco, CA

Total posts: 1
Posted:Here are a couple of vids from Summer '08.

Improv with my brand new (thus I'm a little shaky) TC Khaos fans:



Group improv:



<3~Memory


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Noiseyflower
BRONZE Member since Jan 2009

Noiseyflower

Yell and scream all you like
Location: Melbourne

Total posts: 53
Posted:Brenn, Do have a name for the song that you were dancing to??

You have some real talent there I'm impressed. I'm just starting out and are waiting for my fans in the mail. atm I'm using bent and weighted coat hangers to play around with some moves smile It works well enough to get an idea on how to move the fans.


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Brenn
PLATINUM Member since Jun 2004

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Location: Melbourne, Australia

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Posted:Thanks Noiseyflower smile

Music: "Time's Scar" by Yasunori Mitsuda and is the intro from an old Playsation game called "Chrono Cross".

Enjoy your fans when they arrive! hug


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