Richee
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Posted:Star, can be defined as figure symmetric only by 1 midline
or half circle spin, or flower in flower, independent spin.
Everything else than a regular flower.

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-Concentric template(1 out of 4)

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Lockout

- 1 spin


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Paracircle

-1 anti-spin 2 spin [MAELLE!]


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Snake

-1 isolation 1 spin


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Snake Eye

-1 cat-eye 1 isolation


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Straight line

-1 cat-yey 1 trammel OR 2 anti-spin 1 trammel ? [PETE!]

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Imagine, cuting snowflake from paper.

It's sunny,

:R

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Posted:oh this is really intersting.
Do you have some pictures for explaine, my english is still too poor to understand things like:

"When we pick up single flower piece,
by quartering flower, where if the
peice would be repeated fout times,
we get the whole flower"

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Posted:ubblol

im a native english speaker, but i have never understood anything richee says. ever

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Richee
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Posted:I'm not native english speaker, but I understand

you quite well Mr. [Nx?]. How is this possible?



All right, about the quarter:



Code: Flower

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/ \

| |

\ __ /





Code:Quarter

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| \

|___|







The quarter in detail is symetrical

by the centre line.



That's the point, because when

we modify the one 1/2 of the

quarter. It will shape star flower.



Like paper snowflake cut.



better?,



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Posted:now i'm undestranding something, thanx!
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Carpal \'Tunnel
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Posted:"of the quarter. It will
shape "star" flower. "

nope.

appropriate
line breaks might help, this is mechanics not
poetry.

i know the paper
snowflake but fail
seeing the relevance as
you cant fold
fire poi.

and why not
draw you pictures in mspaint
surley
its gotta be better
than
[code:]
?

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Richee
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Posted:Yes, neither mechanic nor poetry,
but I used this word, because
they were composed randomly.

The relevance with paper snowflake
is obvious, try it!

I've no mouse,

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Posted:Nice idea. It took me a few reads to stop thinking about goofy flowers (one hand regular, the other antispin).

Have faith in what you can do and respect for what you can't

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Posted:shame.

i see the relevance bettwen the patterns you have drawn in code and a paper snowflake, but i dont really see how thats aplying to spinning poi.

are you just making some snowflake patterns and then thinking about how you could achive them with poi? are you talking flower variations here?

Or are you actually saying something new about flowers? cos if you are i just dont get it.

anyone who does understand want to re-explain?

if you dont have a mouse, maybe you should put more effort into your text description, you know, hand positions, directions of spin, things like that? The code just looks confusing shrug

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Richee
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Posted:I want to say ,that can be proven,
when you quarter a 'class' flower,
that the one quarter is simetrical
by it's centre line.

Calling a shape, created by modifing
one half of the quarter, star. Know-
ing this,
giving you many new spossible shapes
that may can be done with Poi.

I'll corect the imagesand rewrite the
crypto tommorow.

lightning,

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Posted:ok I think it means that because a flower is 4 identical quarters, by affecting each circle in the same way a little bit, it changes the overall effect greatly?

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Richee
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Posted:Partialy true, it's necessary to change

olny one quarter. Frower = 4 * quarter.



Star = 4 * eigth + 4 * eight.



lightning,



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Richee
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Posted:Minor update..

I'm thinking about the new patterns a lot nowaday,
also I like the way it's sorted in 'The Poi'.

I think, 'The pattern' show only the evolve in shape
instead of evolution of technique or not?

It's very hard to distinguish between technique,
theory and move.

Code:
Superspin(theory) -> Cat eye(technique) -> Snake eye(move)

This lines are not complete as I'd like to, but
The Poi is good start, I think more, exmaple:

Code:
2 Antispin(theory) -> Trammel(techique) -> Straght line(move)

PETE!

Code:
Long arm(theory) -> Lockout(technique) -> Snake(move) ?

Possibly correct fundamental path.

or even

Code:
Half circle(theory) -> Anti-spin(technique) -> Paracircle(move) ??

MAELLE!

So I've mixed more in the pattern thread than'd
be necessary, but you can find there also some
yet undiscovered tech.

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So all all independent spin, single hand patterns?

I meen, there are more connections..

I'm sure,

:R

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