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Doc Lightning
Doc Lightning

HOP Mad Doctor
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Member Since: 28th May 2001
Total posts: 13920
Posted:So, as has been pointed out in the "Is it quieter around here lately?" the boards are kinda dead.

Things really started to turn quiet around April/May of this year and I figured it was just part of the normal cycles that we see here of flurries of activity and then periods of less activity.

It's November and the trend continues. In Social Chat, only six posts were made over a period of four days. I haven't been posting much lately because there haven't been posts to respond to. In seven years as a HoP member, I have never seen anything like it.

Even worse, Josh and Kate were going to have a mini-Doof tomorrow night at their place in my honor and it appears that very few people will be coming. This disappoints me. It means that our community is collapsing and I can't figure out why this is happening.

But more important than the discussion of why is how to fix it. This community was an amazing, active, warm, loving family consisting of tens of thousands of spinners all over the world. I don't think the blame can be placed in the hands of any individual.

Did the community move to Facebook? If so, can we use that to our advantage? Is there something that we can do to make this forum more conducive to gatherings and socialization?

What are your ideas?

And please, if you know someone who has gone silent, encourage them to come back.


-Mike )'(
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella

"A buckuht 'n a hooze!" -Valura

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Stout
Stout

Pooh-Bah
Location: Canada
Member Since: 12th May 2004
Total posts: 1872
Posted:WOW !!!! 69 posts in discussion over the last 24 hours...just like the 'old days"

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Mr Majestik
Mr Majestik

coming to a country near you
Location: home of the tiney toothy bear
Member Since: 9th Mar 2004
Total posts: 4693
Posted:haha

save home of poi: mission accomplished!

EDIT *mission accomplished, ala bush's "mission accomplished" celebration after the initial invasion of iraq* laugh3

EDITED_BY: Mr Majestik (1232355027)


"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

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aston
aston

Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
Location: South Africa
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2007
Total posts: 4061
Posted:Originally Posted By: hamamelisOriginally Posted By: astonDoc: Birdwatchers are not really watching birds you know. They are making you think that while they observe humanity in preparation for the invasion of their alien overlords....


Curses, they're on to us! Fortunately, it sounds like our secret bird-attack training sessions have gone unnoticed.. so next time he goes outside the problem will be solved.. wink

Ha! Too bad for you that I never go outside. And when I do I have poi to beat birds off with.

Originally Posted By: hamamelis I agree about the 'more videos' comment by the way, though it does seem odd that at a time when the number on vidoes online is increasing so rapidly, less seem to be making it to HoP.. I also spend time on www.contactjuggling.org and there the video section seems to be one of the most active.. here its one of the quieter areas..

Interesting observation. Will need to think about that one....


'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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brodieman
brodieman

old hand
Location: london
Member Since: 11th Jul 2003
Total posts: 1024
Posted:im still stalk the forums every now and again! smile have been thinking about picking up my poi and balls and ambling down to a workshop has been a few years.

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Lev
Firedance Philosopher
Location: Vancouver BC Canada
Member Since: 19th Jan 2009
Total posts: 79
Posted:Here's some different approaches:

Administrative project--

Administration needs to ask the user base what they want in a very bold and expressive way to get MAXIMUM coverage on information HoP members need to give.
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With that the administration can then formulate new ways to realistically improve things, if this means funding is involved then go for it! All HoP would really be doing with the money is strengthening the community in which their loyalties reside so it would be an investment.
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With those plans the administration then relays it back to the users for their feedback, with that feedback they either get a signal to refine or be reaffirmed that the idea is solid in the first place.
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If the idea needs refinement then refine it and relay it back only when significant improvements are made, and repeat previous step. If it's reaffirmed then regardless of previous work, do a bit of brainstorming just to make sure you, the administration have a plan to do exactly what YOU want.
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Carry out the plan, if any large blocking problems come up then keep the users updated on those to maintain a sense of understanding.

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User community project based--
Exactly like this except the admin, mods and users all have an open and really down to heart way to get involved and improve the community without the project getting too bloated to be unwieldy for new users to chip in. Concise, open, informed and fluid progress is key.

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Meritocracy Contests--
I think the biggest bang-for-your-buck on contribution exchange for money would have to be contests which involve creating something and sending it in on a competitive basis, if we could have contests on HoP and the winners get things like poi or glowsticks? I bet you'd get an absolutely overwhelming amount of support. Even if it's not money, some people would be delighted at something skill-made instead like a custom print or custom poi/clothing or even just a little embroidery. If you don't know what people like, asking is a good way!

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What users can do?
Think of interesting and unique topics then make a thread, seriously if you want more discussion people will need things to discuss... just remember controversial =/= interesting =P


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aston
aston

Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
Location: South Africa
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2007
Total posts: 4061
Posted:There are regular competitions....

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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Lev
Firedance Philosopher
Location: Vancouver BC Canada
Member Since: 19th Jan 2009
Total posts: 79
Posted:For poi, but for things like logos, templates and essays on business model analysis? Think outside the box about things that would actually help improve the regular non-hardcore user's experience at HoP.

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Pyrolific
Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Member Since: 10th Jan 2001
Total posts: 3288
Posted:mmm I dont post much anymore because....too much work and study have made/are making me dull. I (really) hope that when I finish studying in August, I'll be able to find some shiny bits of myself to chuck in the mix again.

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Help! My personality got stuck in this signature machine and I cant get it out!

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Doc Lightning
Doc Lightning

HOP Mad Doctor
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Member Since: 28th May 2001
Total posts: 13920
Posted:Josh!!!! I was just thinking about you and Kate and how much time I had at your luffly fairy house in the hills over Adelaide!

Big tele-hugs to the two of you. Tonight I'm going to Joel and Marina's fairy house in the hills over Santa Cruz, my local equivalent of your place.

And how amazing HoP is that I have a fairy-home on two distant continents!


-Mike )'(
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella

"A buckuht 'n a hooze!" -Valura

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pineapple pete
pineapple pete

water based
Location: melbourne
Member Since: 20th Sep 2004
Total posts: 5125
Posted:ah, joel and marina's house is beautiful, such amazing tress, and a wonderful vegie patch too smile

hug


"you know there are no trophys for doing silly things in real life yeah pete?" said ant "you wont get a 'listened to ride of the valkyries all the way to vietnam' trophy"

*proud owner of the very cute fire_spinning_angel, birgit and neon shaolin*

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Doc Lightning
Doc Lightning

HOP Mad Doctor
Location: San Francisco, CA, USA
Member Since: 28th May 2001
Total posts: 13920
Posted:Petey has been to both fairy houses...

-Mike )'(
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella

"A buckuht 'n a hooze!" -Valura

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pineapple pete
pineapple pete

water based
Location: melbourne
Member Since: 20th Sep 2004
Total posts: 5125
Posted:though, my memories are pretty vague, if you'll recall my level of jetlagged ness laugh3

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"you know there are no trophys for doing silly things in real life yeah pete?" said ant "you wont get a 'listened to ride of the valkyries all the way to vietnam' trophy"

*proud owner of the very cute fire_spinning_angel, birgit and neon shaolin*

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V_Regal
Lost in the Lights
Location: BC, Canada
Member Since: 16th Feb 2009
Total posts: 101
Posted:I wish I got to see their houses. ): Where I live, and where I used to live in Vancuover.
"Ghetto-hole" sums them both up nicely.

Anyways.
Maybe revamping the website's design?


Risen from the Ashes
The Phoenix shall rise in his royal flaire.
FIND YOUR DESTINY.

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newgabe
newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2005
Total posts: 4030
Posted:Originally Posted By: Pyrolificmmm I dont post much anymore because....too much work and study have made/are making me dull.


What are you studying, Josh? I am about to become very dull doing my final year of adult education..with a quick trip to SpunOut WA and Nick's poi retreat in Bali to wake me up in April yes Dang that assignment that's due on the last day of the retreat though!!! Hope my professor doesn;t die of shock when I hand it in two weeks early before I go! Hope I don;t die getting it done that early. My last assignment last year, after the craziness of my dad dying straight after UberOz was 6 weeks late and the lovely lady still gave me full marks.


.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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Pyrolific
Returning to a unique state of Equilibrium
Location: Adelaide, South Australia
Member Since: 10th Jan 2001
Total posts: 3288
Posted:^^^Masters in IT at a uni with particularly high expectations, while working as a high school coordinator.

J


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Help! My personality got stuck in this signature machine and I cant get it out!

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Bubbles_
Bubbles_

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: mancunian
Member Since: 25th Nov 2004
Total posts: 3383
Posted:wave hey, i thought after seeing this thread id say ive popped back in smile (if anyone remembers me)

ive been off for a while, but thats because of changes in my life which meant not being able to concentrate on here, or not being able too take part.

my 2 cents, which i dont think applies to everyone for obvious reasons is a lot of us had a lot more free time a couple of years ago. I know a lot of members are above their 20's but a large proportion were between 16 and say 25 for a while, and to be fair i think we all have more time when were younger because we make time for the fun stuff.... i dont know, i know i havent been able to do a lot of things this year, but thats going to change.


Disclaimer:im not responsible for what i say or do whether it be before,during and after drinking alcoholic substances (owned by BMVC).
Creater of Jenisms(TM)
Virginity like bubble,one prick all gone.

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TinklePants
TinklePants

Clique Infiltrator, Cunning Linguist and Master Debator
Location: Edinburgh burgh burrrrrr
Member Since: 3rd Jul 2005
Total posts: 4217
Posted:I been away too. With real life. Work and stupid stuff because of the credit crunch. I neglected my spinning too. I'm going to hell now!!!!! frown

Always use "so's your face" and "only on Tuesdays" in as many conversations possible

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blu_valley
blu_valley

fluffy mess
Location: Brighton
Member Since: 8th Apr 2005
Total posts: 197
Posted:Same....was absent for a while, mostly due to work and life blah blah blah, but I've started popping back in.Though I'm not posting anywhere near as much as I used to.

I remember you bubbles!

hug


"I want to know if you can see beauty even when it's not pretty, every day,and if you can source your own life from its presence.." - Oriah Mountain Dreamer

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newgabe
newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali
Member Since: 3rd Mar 2005
Total posts: 4030
Posted:Hey it's good to see you back again, Tink and Bubbles! It all still trucks on and I totally agree that as a whole cohort 'grow up' and move into other things there's less time for old friends, or old friend sites....

.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....

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FireTom
Stargazer

Member Since: 20th Sep 2003
Total posts: 6650
Posted:this community has been experiencing a setback because

ppl lost their interest and went off to do new things the "I'm not doing because you're not doing" attitude of old hands who rather pet their grudges than renew themselves and their attitude towards each other old hands stopped spinning poi personality websites like "Facebook" and because old hands going out on their ego trip and promoting themselves, now that poi really starts reaching a "critical mass" - as in "the chicks fledged and took off flying, and are not looking back"

shrug

Yes, there are only 5% left of those I saw in the beginning and had epic discussions with - who helped shaping ... me ... footinmouth

But as I see it there are l.o.v.e.l.y new members in here - really fluffy people. Why is that? Because this board attracts nice and helpful people - it just is.

If this board really means something to you (old hands), you rather frequent it. Get off the Facebook junk, come back to ChittyChat, "htfu" and post there... wink

I'm with Chopper Reid on this one (beware: explicit lyrics):





twocents wink


the best smiles are the ones you lead to wink

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Mr Majestik
Mr Majestik

coming to a country near you
Location: home of the tiney toothy bear
Member Since: 9th Mar 2004
Total posts: 4693
Posted:i forgot HoP needed saving... am i a bad HoPper?

"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

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FireTom
Stargazer

Member Since: 20th Sep 2003
Total posts: 6650
Posted:spank one of the worst tongue2

the best smiles are the ones you lead to wink

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Mr Majestik
Mr Majestik

coming to a country near you
Location: home of the tiney toothy bear
Member Since: 9th Mar 2004
Total posts: 4693
Posted:cry


what have i done!?!?!?! HoP is DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMED.

screw this... i'm going to go and join facebook tongue2


"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

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FireTom
Stargazer

Member Since: 20th Sep 2003
Total posts: 6650
Posted:as IF you didn't already *deserves more spank *

no really, a board lives from its members posting, no?

so c'mon, instead of dragging every discussion to either a whingin whinin ICU or turning around, insulted - share your petty crimes wink

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the best smiles are the ones you lead to wink

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Mother_Natures_Son
Mother_Natures_Son

Rampant whirler.
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Member Since: 1st Aug 2007
Total posts: 2418
Posted:Hmmm, what if we approached this from a slightly different angle?

What have we on this board got that other boards don't? Why would people come to "Home of Poi" rather than a V8 supercar forum?


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Bear1970
Bear1970

Huggy Tart
Location: Londinium
Member Since: 29th May 2009
Total posts: 233
Posted:I keep coming back here because it's quite an active board and seems to be populated with some good characters!! Of course, I've not been around long so it's all still new and fluffy!! lol

That said, there's a huge repository of knowledge and advice that us new spinners can approach knowing we'll not be dismissed out of hand for asking stupid questions!! wink

Besides, I'm going to win that last post thread grin


I am hungry, I am incorrigible, I AM MAN!!

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Mr Majestik
Mr Majestik

coming to a country near you
Location: home of the tiney toothy bear
Member Since: 9th Mar 2004
Total posts: 4693
Posted:Originally Posted By: Mother_Natures_SonWhat have we on this board got that other boards don't? Why would people come to "Home of Poi" rather than a V8 supercar forum?

guaranteed fire grin


"but have you considered there is more to life than your eyelids?"

jointly owned by Fire_Spinning_Angel and Blu_Valley

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aston
aston

Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League
Location: South Africa
Member Since: 2nd Dec 2007
Total posts: 4061
Posted:Less fatal collisions.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

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willworkforfoodjnr
willworkforfoodjnr

Hunting robot foxes
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
Member Since: 8th Aug 2007
Total posts: 1046
Posted:Because of all the cookies

Working hard to be a wandering hippie layabout. Ten years down, five to go!

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Seye
Seye

Geek
Location: Manchester, UK
Member Since: 27th Mar 2005
Total posts: 1261
Posted:Homeofwhat now?

wink


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