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mcp
PLATINUM Member since May 2003

mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.

Total posts: 5276
Posted:And it wasn't even my free copy, it were somebody elses...

If you like reading other peoples opinions read on: (Or if I know you, I'll say something about you in this, if I don't more than likely I won't.)

Firstly, again, the quality of all the videos improved DRAMATICALLY over last years. There was no really truly bad stuff this time.

Couple of things I noticed immediately:

Sage: ZOMG, if there had been a pro camera crew there it would have super super super awesome. That camera dude was okay, but with a better camera, and more angles would really have done sage's performance justice. I mean, making fire orb interesting for like 4 minutes? Who would have thought that was possible!?!? Good dancing, good job!

Clure: Why is your camera sooooo grainy! ARGH! Nice use of guitar friend. I liked the close up of his face. The black between the fan cuts was perhaps a tad too long thou... Good to see some irish waterfalls!

What's with the DVD case saying Northern Ireland for one entry and Ireland, UK for another? Northern Ireland is part of the UK, Southern Ireland / the Republic, isn't. So that's the same thing? Plus the 2nd to last entry, from the US isn't listed on the back of the case which was confusing, since I think all the rest were...

Woolsey: Look at the camera more I think. Remember flirt with the camera! Also, really nice sequences that you culd tell you had worked on, with some really nice arm movement and gracefully dance ness. Hmmmmm.

FireTribe: You're camera angle almost crossed the invisible line. Which makes the 90 degree cut disorientating. Isometric angles / 45 degrees from front on, are different enough, and show the wheel plane.

Bluecat: Too many fades, not enough 'speed' changes in the spinning on the editing I think maybe. The scenery is almost better than the watching of the spinning. Over use of the silouette and the funny hats. Good effort for juggling in winter in scotland in loads of clothes thou.

Shilly Shally: Good use of close ups. Shame it's just from a gig, would have liked to see more of your crazy personality chris, and more dance stuff from you guys, cos I know you're awesome. Two very different camera shots as well, one very orange and the other a higher shot showing the audience in front. The orange one is rather nice, but the other is not so well done. The light isn't so good in that one.

Not many stories this time around I seem to recall.

Unhurried: EXPLORATORIUM! Woohoo! errrrr, nice staff stuff, good movement as every. By the end thou, I would have like to see you hurry up. Some differences in the intesity of your movement would have been nice. There were some really beautifully graceful bits in there thou... Hmmmmmmm.

Sandy: Juggle wibbling? Oh dear. Have you taken up WoW as well? Don't you have better things to do with your time? ;P
Er yeah, nice video, liked the previous location under the M32 better, had more contact staff in it too. What can I say? I'm biased. I could see the influence of the india (was it india?) trip.

Noel: Er, you look a bit like a school teacher... tongue2 Some geeky ass poi in there, and some good looking backgrounds... A bit frantic with the poi at the end thou....

Durbs: YEAH! Good effort! I bit far from the camera occassionally, and like you'd just gone out to the forest near your house with a camera and a tripod.... Swwweeeeettttt footwork, some really well integrated with the poi movements. You're trying to be the whipcatch king huh? Is that like the milky bar kid but different? "Whip Catches are on me!" Er, yeah, really liked it. Could have done with you doing every awesome whip catch you know, in a row, with incredible transitions in a single shot... but well... that'll be next year huh? wink

Firegroove: Wooooooo, I was at that film shoot! grin gotta love lester and jade's routine and the fire swords... grin Love you guys.

Michael: Go SOX! Was this filmed before or after firedrums?

Er... yeah, nicer DVD this time too. I liked the solarised slowmo title sequences. Of course the question is: Whose silouettes are on the cover? And the real question, why is the earth pictured on the cover centered on america? here's me thinking HOP was based in NZ? grin



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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast

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Posted:grin

Glad you liked the vid...

And Will is glad you liked his track - he says thank you smile

x

PS: and durbin, why so eager to know? think you won, huh?! tongue2

heheheheh... hope so!

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Durbs
BRONZE Member since Sep 2001

Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England

Total posts: 5688
Posted:Not so much eager as curious wink

I liked the track too - is that Will's normal stuff or something specially created?


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bluecat

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Location: everywhere

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Posted:yeah, i want to know who durbin beat into second place!

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Location: Las Vegas, NV

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Posted:Im sorry, ive been away for a bit, and i havent kept up with all of this. Is it too late to enter a video for the dvd? Cause the contest is still up.

I might just be making some nooby mistake, so be kind if im being stupid.

But weve been doing very serious filming, and i soooo want to enter.

Our most recent exploit was a poi shoot in the local mall, we gathered crowds and everything.


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DaG
GOLD Member since Jun 2005

DaG

Golf buggie driving instructor
Location: Brisvegas

Total posts: 156
Posted:Sorry dude the DVD is already out and kickass
peoples are just waiting for judgment

but hey it just gives you more time to make a really kickass entry for next year.




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Durbs
BRONZE Member since Sep 2001

Durbs

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Location: Epsom, Surrey, England

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Posted:Indeed - the entry for CoL 2009 is already up grin

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Location: Las Vegas, NV

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Posted:Burnage to the hardcore.

See what happens when im without interweb for extended periods?

xD

Oh well, i will pour a whole ton of extra work into my filming in the hopes of entering next year.


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Location: everywhere

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Posted:I think they've decided that noone wins this year, as giving any sort of prize to someone like durbs is considered to be against the geneva convention.

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Mother_Natures_Son
SILVER Member since Aug 2007

Mother_Natures_Son

Rampant whirler.
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!

Total posts: 2418
Posted:Wouldnt it be supporting terrorism, bluecat? I've seen Durbs' videos after all. tongue2

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Durbs
BRONZE Member since Sep 2001

Durbs

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Location: Epsom, Surrey, England

Total posts: 5688
Posted:Hey - terrorists need supporting too!

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Posted:oui. j'ai besoin de gagner $2000 pour acheter un nouveau ak-47 grin

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newgabe
SILVER Member since Mar 2005

newgabe

what goes around comes around. unless you're into stalls.
Location: Bali

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Posted:Well I did a days work at a juggling shop and now have a copy of COL8 but been too busy to watch it!
Sooon or after Woodford or something....


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Posted:so, without intending to sound desperate (but probably failing tongue2 ), when are we likely to hear? should we be revising our 'expecting results of judges deliberations in november' to 2009? I don't mind waiting grin but some info'd be nice.

off for a computer free christmas in a couple of days :o) aaaah

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Kneel
SILVER Member since Apr 2007

Kneel

journeyman
Location: Dublin,Ireland

Total posts: 80
Posted:nice spinning all around,i especially loved nick's performance though.has to go down in my books as one of the best fire spins ive ever seen.

also,where or when are the results for the competition announced?


-Niall-

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Durbs
BRONZE Member since Sep 2001

Durbs

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Posted::ditto:

*twiddles thumbs*

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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP

Total posts: 1012
Posted:I am announcing winners this Friday. Sorry about delay.

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_Clare_
BRONZE Member since Oct 2002

_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast

Total posts: 5967
Posted:smile

Great grin

Thanks
x


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Kneel
SILVER Member since Apr 2007

Kneel

journeyman
Location: Dublin,Ireland

Total posts: 80
Posted:hmm,seems i was so cleverly on another page when i asked my question and didnt realize that bluecat already asked....i love being really intelligent so i do tongue2

..i think i shud win though for my powerful intellectual skills of pretending to enter a video but not really....i think my pretend video was too good tongue2 (am i convincing anybody here???......didnt think so....im gona crawl back into my hole...)lol

good luck to everybody anyway,i hope to have a video entered in 2010 grin


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Pali
GOLD Member since Jan 2003

Pali

journeyman
Location: Ubud, Bali, Indonesia

Total posts: 84
Posted:Confusion! Ok, so I haven't seen it yet, but... I've seen a few reviews in this thread of my and Brad's entry yet we're not listed among those on the DVD...

Can someone clear this up for me?


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newgabe
SILVER Member since Mar 2005

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Posted:What was the name of your 'piece'? That's what's listed on the DVD,not the names of the people involved. SO unless we know your piece was called Pali Dreams or SyndhroDudes in Heaven or Me in Post-Industrial Wonderland or whatever, there's not much way to know/help

Please someone correct me if I'm being obtuse and the people's names really are listed somewhere....
CHeers
Gabe


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Pali
GOLD Member since Jan 2003

Pali

journeyman
Location: Ubud, Bali, Indonesia

Total posts: 84
Posted:Apologies! However, being that I've not yet seen the DVD, it would have taken some act of paranormal psychic ability for me to know this thing that you have just so kindly told me. :-p

Act name: Puppeteer's Dream

Gratzi!


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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP

Total posts: 1012
Posted:As previously explained because of so many credits and contact details we refer to the www.homeofpoi.com/col2008
As you will see on that page there is a lot of information.
This allows information to be kept up to date.
Performers names have changed in the past as with contact details, websites etc.
A simple title is provided to us which can be a troupe name persons name, and/or descriptive title.
We place those on the video to "keep it clean" for watching and say for full details see that link.
I really do not want to display outdated information on a DVD.
Maybe next time submit a different title for the entry being aware that it can not change.

Does that make sense?
I want everyone to get credit for their work and keep it updated with emails, performance name/s, websites...
Is it that hard to look it up on the website?
Maybe I can send a printed copy with each. But I prefer to print less paper if I can


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Pali
GOLD Member since Jan 2003

Pali

journeyman
Location: Ubud, Bali, Indonesia

Total posts: 84
Posted:Oh, my! Now things have definitely gone wonky -- this is why I normally don't talk :x

Please disregard my earlier comments and sorry for the trouble... I'll scrape up a copy of the DVD and have a looksie for meself grin

Your work is fantastic and amazing, Malcolm, and I'm sure we all appreciate your love of trees and attentiveness to our tendency to alter identities.

<3


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newgabe
SILVER Member since Mar 2005

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Posted:Originally Posted By: MalcolmAs previously explained because of so many credits and contact details we refer to the www.homeofpoi.com/col2008


Oops
Totally my bad. Silly me and my lousy eyesight. Didn't see the little words at the bottom of the cover.


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fNi
GOLD Member since Mar 2004

fNi

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Location: New York

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Posted:I've been told that it's tagged on at the end of the Fiammella Fire Duo chapter, and it doesn't have its own chapter. But since I don't have the video, I can't confirm that.

[edit] Could someone that has it please take a looksee? I'll make cupcakes wink smile

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Malcolm
SAPPHIRE Member since Nov 2003

Malcolm

HOP admin
Location: HOP

Total posts: 1012
Posted:Yes. There are some text at the end of the video. Something like thanks to all involved in making this DVD and futher information available from www.homeofpoi.com/col2008 plus the cover of the DVD talks about the link.

Sorry you do not have a copy yourself frown


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fNi
GOLD Member since Mar 2004

fNi

master of disaster
Location: New York

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Posted:Yes, that text is at the end of the DVD. This is before it. I've been described some of the details [via PM], and they correspond exactly. What I'm asking is for someone to check their actual video against the list on www.homeofpoi.com/col2008 and we can clear this up.

Originally Posted By: meg
What's with the DVD case saying Northern Ireland for one entry and Ireland, UK for another? Northern Ireland is part of the UK, Southern Ireland / the Republic, isn't. So that's the same thing? Plus the 2nd to last entry, from the US isn't listed on the back of the case which was confusing, since I think all the rest were...

[edit & addquote] In no way misunderstand this to mean that I don't appreciate all the hard work of the HoP team to put this wonderful DVD together.

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Location: south africa kzn

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Posted:please can i crash this topis new user sorry i am from rsa and would like to find out more about competitions and championships can you help me get some direction

setting south africa alight for the last 5 years

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newgabe
SILVER Member since Mar 2005

newgabe

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Location: Bali

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Posted:HI there poifun-academy. Welcome to HoP.
(Just a pointer though... good idea to take your email address out from your name box- might attract spammers.)

Are you looking for live competitions? Personally I don't know of many, as the general ethos of the poi community as I've seen it tends to be more about skill sharing and having fun without competition. The topic has been raised here a few times, having cometitive leagues and so on, but it never seems to get very far.

People have raised objections about the codification and ranking that would be involved, and the notion that 'winning' such a thing would be meaningful, given that so many poiple would not get involved. So saying someone was the 'champion' of Europe or whatever would not be respected, and would just be divisive to the community.

There are heaps of comps for baton twirlers though, you might get some clues from that world. And I did hear some rumours of glowstring 'battles' though that was from the USA and seemed related to the hiphop battle approach.

Having said that, there is one little comp I know about...a firedance comp held on the Gold Coast, Qld, Australia once a year, sponsored by a local shop (Threeworlds).
I've been a judge for that one a few times, so I know the criteria include choreo, presentation and safety as well as technical skill. There was a similar one in Cairns a few years ago too. One thing about comps with financial prizes is that the money has to come from somewhere, so the ones I have known are sponsored by shops.

HoP runs COL (Circles of light) as a video competition, so its about how well the vid is presenting the art, not just technicals.

There are heaps of comps for baton twirlers though, you might get some clues from that world. And I did hear some rumours of glowstring 'battles' though that was from the USA and seemed related to the hiphop battle approach.

Are you looking to run one, or enter one?


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duvan

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Location: germany

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Posted:there's also the Japanese Fire Festival Fire Contest.. it's amazing grin
lots of great spinners competing in a very constructive and beautiful way
www.firefestival.jp


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