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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:And it wasn't even my free copy, it were somebody elses...

If you like reading other peoples opinions read on: (Or if I know you, I'll say something about you in this, if I don't more than likely I won't.)

Firstly, again, the quality of all the videos improved DRAMATICALLY over last years. There was no really truly bad stuff this time.

Couple of things I noticed immediately:

Sage: ZOMG, if there had been a pro camera crew there it would have super super super awesome. That camera dude was okay, but with a better camera, and more angles would really have done sage's performance justice. I mean, making fire orb interesting for like 4 minutes? Who would have thought that was possible!?!? Good dancing, good job!

Clure: Why is your camera sooooo grainy! ARGH! Nice use of guitar friend. I liked the close up of his face. The black between the fan cuts was perhaps a tad too long thou... Good to see some irish waterfalls!

What's with the DVD case saying Northern Ireland for one entry and Ireland, UK for another? Northern Ireland is part of the UK, Southern Ireland / the Republic, isn't. So that's the same thing? Plus the 2nd to last entry, from the US isn't listed on the back of the case which was confusing, since I think all the rest were...

Woolsey: Look at the camera more I think. Remember flirt with the camera! Also, really nice sequences that you culd tell you had worked on, with some really nice arm movement and gracefully dance ness. Hmmmmm.

FireTribe: You're camera angle almost crossed the invisible line. Which makes the 90 degree cut disorientating. Isometric angles / 45 degrees from front on, are different enough, and show the wheel plane.

Bluecat: Too many fades, not enough 'speed' changes in the spinning on the editing I think maybe. The scenery is almost better than the watching of the spinning. Over use of the silouette and the funny hats. Good effort for juggling in winter in scotland in loads of clothes thou.

Shilly Shally: Good use of close ups. Shame it's just from a gig, would have liked to see more of your crazy personality chris, and more dance stuff from you guys, cos I know you're awesome. Two very different camera shots as well, one very orange and the other a higher shot showing the audience in front. The orange one is rather nice, but the other is not so well done. The light isn't so good in that one.

Not many stories this time around I seem to recall.

Unhurried: EXPLORATORIUM! Woohoo! errrrr, nice staff stuff, good movement as every. By the end thou, I would have like to see you hurry up. Some differences in the intesity of your movement would have been nice. There were some really beautifully graceful bits in there thou... Hmmmmmmm.

Sandy: Juggle wibbling? Oh dear. Have you taken up WoW as well? Don't you have better things to do with your time? ;P
Er yeah, nice video, liked the previous location under the M32 better, had more contact staff in it too. What can I say? I'm biased. I could see the influence of the india (was it india?) trip.

Noel: Er, you look a bit like a school teacher... tongue2 Some geeky ass poi in there, and some good looking backgrounds... A bit frantic with the poi at the end thou....

Durbs: YEAH! Good effort! I bit far from the camera occassionally, and like you'd just gone out to the forest near your house with a camera and a tripod.... Swwweeeeettttt footwork, some really well integrated with the poi movements. You're trying to be the whipcatch king huh? Is that like the milky bar kid but different? "Whip Catches are on me!" Er, yeah, really liked it. Could have done with you doing every awesome whip catch you know, in a row, with incredible transitions in a single shot... but well... that'll be next year huh? wink

Firegroove: Wooooooo, I was at that film shoot! grin gotta love lester and jade's routine and the fire swords... grin Love you guys.

Michael: Go SOX! Was this filmed before or after firedrums?

Er... yeah, nicer DVD this time too. I liked the solarised slowmo title sequences. Of course the question is: Whose silouettes are on the cover? And the real question, why is the earth pictured on the cover centered on america? here's me thinking HOP was based in NZ? grin



"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:Oh yeah, and I totally think Yuta and Ronan's COL entry would have OWNED all the others. Cos it rocks. Such a shame.

"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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_Clare_
_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:smile

Argh! I want to see it smile

Yeah, sorry about the grainy camera thing... not sure what happened there... and by the time we found out it was too late to do anything. Drat.

Thanks for the comments, which just make me want to see it more!!!

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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:F**k me, praise from Meg - that's going straight on the CV wink
Only one of the forests was near home, i had to travel to the other forests/hills/fields... Dedication i tell you!


Does this mean there'll be a copy waiting at home for me tonight?


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_Clare_
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Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:Btw, I think the one with the skirt and the firehands in silhouette on the front (at about 7o'clock) is me...

I recognise the large butt.

(god, I hope it's me after that smile!!)

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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:it's not your butt, it's just the line of your legs? Errrr yeah.

Oh meant to say, my friend said the dip to blacks inbetween the fans bits was well done, cos fans can go on for overly long, but the cuts made you want to see more, which is pretty surprising for fans. Where are the 'angel wing' creations I made for ya? eh eh?

Oh and by the durbs: You suck. I must have forgot to put that in my 'review'. wink I like the sweatpants and the hippie top. Is that toasts new costume? ;p Yup, don't rile me, or I'll get sarcy.

Anyway, durbs, hope your well in whatever godforsaken part of england you're in. Thanks for introducing me to the mighty boosh. And black sheep, I might go to NZ yet, if only to be afraid of zombie sheep.

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"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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pineapple pete

water based
Location: melbourne
Member Since: 20th Sep 2004
Total posts: 5125
Posted:laugh3 black sheep in a fantastic film.. funnily enough i was introduced to it by cole in london.. but you get that

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"you know there are no trophys for doing silly things in real life yeah pete?" said ant "you wont get a 'listened to ride of the valkyries all the way to vietnam' trophy"

*proud owner of the very cute fire_spinning_angel, birgit and neon shaolin*

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_Clare_
_Clare_

Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:Heheh.

Aye, it's just my legs... thank god for graininess smile

The angel wings still haven't been wicked, to my shame. But it's on my list of things to do... so that's good smile

Next year wink

Hope you're having good adventures x


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old hand
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 12th Jul 2004
Total posts: 716
Posted:Is juggle wibbling more geeky than learning to balance a ball on the tip of your finger? wink
Yea, I wanted to put something other than just contact staff in my video this year, didn't get round to shooting the doubles bit so it didnt go in, hopefully sort it out for next year.
Originally Posted By: mcp
liked the previous location under the M32 better, had more contact staff in it too. What can I say? I'm biased. I could see the influence of the india (was it india?) trip.


Yes it was india, do you mean cos i chose a green location rather than a dirty cityscape like i normally use? Again i fancied trying something different, but i think on balance i prefer dirty urban landscapes, they are more me.


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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:no I meant your spinning looked more performancey, than it did before. but not as much as when I saw you at the BJC...

Ball on the finger is an awesome trick. Nimi is my hero.

Yeah, I gotta say I prefer urban locations much better. Having a beautiful untouched natural lanscape in the background and a human in the foreground wearing the products of 1000 years of clothing production technology and doing a skill with zero survival value is pretty weird to see.

Oh yeah, but you're still a dirty hippie. grin

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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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old hand
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 12th Jul 2004
Total posts: 716
Posted:I'll take that as a compliment, performing being me job and all that grin

Dirty hippie? im not the one galavanting around the world crashing with other spinners wink

Damn i want my copy to arrive, is it lame that ive already organised a projector and half of Bristol* to come round to watch it?



*This may be a minor exaggeration.


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Richee
HOP librarian
Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:(Here is an ongoing projector too..)

sneaks out,

:R

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willworkforfoodjnr

Hunting robot foxes
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
Member Since: 8th Aug 2007
Total posts: 1046
Posted:Woah... The standard really has jumped again! Loved the variety of stuff there.

My favourite was probably Durbs one, even if he was using those silly poi things tongue2

Well done everyone whos on there!


Working hard to be a wandering hippie layabout. Ten years down, five to go!

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bluecat
bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:so, i haven't seen it yet, but i already know what's wrong with my entry frown

its mostly that it was not the footage i wanted to use - bastl and i made a fantastic shoot, with costuming, variety, fun, etcetc... and the tape died after 9 days of sub-zero temperatures :crying: . but we felt like putting in an entry in any case, even a sub-par one.

grin

looking forward to getting it and watching the whole thing (though i have seen a lot already.... tongue2 ) smile


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old hand
Location: San Francisco, California, USA
Member Since: 17th Nov 2004
Total posts: 768
Posted:my copy hasn't arrived yet but i can't wait to see it! i have, however, seen ronan & yuta's video and can't believe it didn't get on. must've been something weird, yeah? certainly couldn't have been because of quality.

taken out of context i must seem so strange
~ ani di franco

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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:Yay - my copy just arrived
Boo - i'm at work and can't watch it.


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bluecat
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Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:i've watched it now.

and its really nice grin

opinions later tongue2


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Meenik
Meenik

enthusiast
Location: Vancouver, BC, Canada
Member Since: 7th Nov 2001
Total posts: 272
Posted:Just got my copy, and I'm impressed!

The videos are mostly well produced. Good lighting, original music, and performances worth watching. I put it on to watch a couple while my bath was running, and I ended up watching 2/3rds of the videos before I remembered the bath! Were you to know how long that day had been, and how much I needed that bath, you would understand the depth of the compliment I have just given the body of work represented on COL2008!

I might actually rip the soundtrack onto iTunes. I'm amazed that so many people found good music to work with.

The art form is definitely maturing grin


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old hand
Location: Bristol
Member Since: 12th Jul 2004
Total posts: 716
Posted:Yay! seen it. Although it was a rather rushed viewing so gonna watch it again and give opinions later, MUCH higher standard than before though.

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Richee
HOP librarian
Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:PROJECTION TONIGHT!

can't wait,

:R

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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:Yay - Background title screen silhouette FTW! wink

Had a quick flick through - all looks good.
Loving the all star cast grin


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Durbs
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Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:Loving the typos too wink

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_Clare_
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Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:Northern Island?!!! frown frown frown

Hopefully mine will be there when I get home from work later tonight...

x


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Richee
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Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:1) Circles in the Anomalous Zone 0

+talent
-spark

2) Sage of Sangre del Sol

"No orb, movement, no movement, orb."

3) Unhurried 0

-music
+move

4) Pyrotation -2

-dark electro
-stage fire

5) MCP +3

+location
+skill
+smile
+legend
-piano

6) Direction change +4

+talent
+music
+location
+pose

7) Bali Dreams +5

+music rap
+smile
+speed
+magic
+class spin

8)Meet me here -1

+waterfall
+music
-fire
-costume
-grey part

9) Glow with the Flow 0

-sinth electro(drumm bass)
+scene

10) FireTribe +1

-static
+trance
+mixing

11) Shilly Shally 0

+group
+skill
-individuality
-mixing

12) Sandy 0

-music
-smile
+d'n'b
+acro

13) Goropika 0

-voices
+drum
-drummers
+lightning

14) Spinning in headphones +2

+footwork
+music
+felexibility
-back stand
-cam bug
+skill

15) Torch Poi +1

-music
+mistakes
+funny
-location
-cook look
+ninja
+musketir

16) Red on Fire -2

-music
-style

17) Firegroove +2

+music
-words
+location
+style

18) Ebino -3

-moon
-voices
-music

19) Tunnel vision 0

-cam effect
+tunnel
-music
-wrists
+costume
+pose

20) The Erasing Rubber Art Duo +2

+location
-snow
+music
+pose

21) Fiamella Fire Duo 0

+location
-front fire
+statues
-camera look

22) Puppetery -1

+idea
-music
-front fire

23) infinitos -3

-cuts
-music
-promo
-group
+hula

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The repeating bug I've found is music
and using fire on the ground (except
if it has a shape..).

Top score:

+5 Bali Dreams

(If this was performed as one piece,
than you are better than I.)

-3 Ebino, Infinitos

(This is world compilation, neither promo
nor party..)

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Together, an awesome and in-
spirational DVD.

Specials thanks:

HOP, Nick, Mcp, Rovo, Rob, Seb,
Durbs, Noel, Sage and other.

the end,

:R


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Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:Er - what's a "cam bug" and what's a "back stand" ?

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Richee
HOP librarian
Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:Violet thing area, in the left top corner.
That make the sky and the forest violet..

Moment you spinning back to the camera,
only one moment in the first half in the
forest.

I really enjoy your movement.

well done,

:R

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geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:I can't believe you gave us a minus for snow! surely we get plus points for filming in sub-zero temperatures! or is this a tropical-only competition?

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willworkforfoodjnr

Hunting robot foxes
Location: Huddersfield, West Yorkshire
Member Since: 8th Aug 2007
Total posts: 1046
Posted:Anything that makes you want to shiver when sat in a nice warm house obviously gets a minus tongue2

Working hard to be a wandering hippie layabout. Ten years down, five to go!

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mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:luckily I have a +4 staff of contact. That should boost my score. Now I need to get rid of the -2 beanie of comedy...

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"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

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bluecat

geek, level 1
Location: everywhere
Member Since: 15th Dec 2002
Total posts: 5300
Posted:I have to face the gazebo alone.... but i have the 'carry several extra items' van of doom.
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_Clare_
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Still wiggling
Location: Belfast
Member Since: 22nd Oct 2002
Total posts: 5967
Posted:And I can't believe I got a minus for fire in a fire arts competition! smile

I concur with the grey thing though frown

But I completely disagree with costume!! frown
That was my Mum's skirt, and it was quite a massive part to do with the meaning of the video! and I think it totally fitted the Irish-themed guitar playing... Anyways, anyways...

Watched it all last night...

First of all, regarding mine - we're really disappointed that the clip that made it on to COL is even darker than the one we sent in - but I guess that's true for lots of people, again.

I'm going to upload mine somewhere (when I find the original), so you can see the difference. It does help when you can see what I'm doing!

Also, as might be obvious to some, our camera guy synced up the movement and music track with quite a horrible delay - my choreography actually fits to the music, but it seems to be running a second or so early on the video. Le sigh.


Anyways....


Some people are saying the standard is 'so much higher' this year. I dunno.

The standard rises every year on COL, and there is always a lot of ok stuff, mixed with some lovely pieces. If the standard was to stay the same, we wouldn't be getting anywhere! smile

However, for me, there were three standout lovely ones...

1. Durbs (Pansy in the Park)... Beautiful movement, cool tricks, nice setting, really good feel to it.
2. Nick (Bali Dreams)... lovely choreography and musicality, great expression.
3. Rob and Seb (In Scotland)... amazing scenery and shots, nice, friendly atmosphere and great spinning... I can't believe you had footage better than this?!

There were some other ones I loved - Meg's was awesome and head-bending; it was great to see FireGroove grooving with clothes; Yuta's was gorgeous and stunning and Infinitos was good too.


Thanks so much Malcolm for all your hard work again this year!!

Clare xx


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