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16.15.8
GOLD Member since Jul 2005

16.15.8

I cant think therefore Im not
Location: In my backpack, United Kingdom

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Posted:Hey Olive where are you hug

I started to play around with your 3D idea and what you told me in the "arms dont bend that way" workshop and this is one of many photos, its wicked sweet to be able to play with two long arm/extended patterns in one single photo and not only one long arm pattern on each photo.

I only got one photo uploaded but more is coming and please try this out and publish links to your 3D spinning photos here, I want to see everyones ideas, please ubbangel

http://www.nevisoul.com/nevisoul/LED1.html
(first photo is the only 3D photo I have uploaded so far, its a five pedal antispin in each plane, I missed the timing and went out of plane in the bottom pedal thoughmad)


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Richee
BRONZE Member since Jan 2002

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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic

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Posted:N > Because, you can get inside-out butterfly, working quite well,
which cover both inside and ouside in reel like motion.

Practicaly:

- Pendulum + Inswings
- Butterfly + Inswings
- TTN + Inswings

It's the in-out cross-over:

Quote:Introversion = Cross-over destructor
Inswing = Cross-over creator

This allow, to create reel instance.

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Answer for the Cube 1.

cmd successfull,

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Richee
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Posted:N > God bless Rev for his shine on.

The explanation of the 'plane' view is described
partialy in Frames of Confusion. The reso-
lution is that:

Quote:"Move is close balance system,
or routine in routine."
This allow, to create delimitated picture.

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Answer for the Cube 2.

cmd successfull,

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Basstones
GOLD Member since Mar 2006

Basstones

Do you do the poiz?
Location: Brisbane, Australia

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Posted:Wow...I'm confused again, but some very interesting concepts. Just wish I could get my head around them crazy

"In the end there is only fire and a waterfall"

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Stout
SILVER Member since May 2004

Stout

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Posted:ditto...

At first I thought it was about simple separations

Then I thought it was about separated atomics...which would dovetail nicely with the 3D idea.

Then I'm looking at drawings which i can't make head or tail of..

Then Richee posted....

Now it's time to ask for a narrated tutorial

Pleeeeeeeeease.


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Mother_Natures_Son
SILVER Member since Aug 2007

Mother_Natures_Son

Rampant whirler.
Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!

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Posted:I understand half of the pictures...

The circle with the dot in the middle is you, Outside planes are regular flowers done by the sides, but with a 45 degree shift angling in at the front so they can now be viewed from the front as well as the side, "inside planes" is the same concept done in a wall plane, so that you can then see it from the SIDES as well as in front.

The dots are reference points... so where the poi or hands are at a given time.

Damn, the more I look at these pictures the less I understand. I think I could get it if I knew what the symbols meant, the dots and the lines and all that.


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Stout
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Stout

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Posted:The pictures were just another piece of the puzzle that makes up this topic, but I'm still looking for the piece that fits between them.

I tried spinning at 45 deg planes but when I tried turning them into wallplane flowers I ended up beating the tar out of myself. Same same in wallplane, so I just played around with atomics, hoping something creative would spit itself out...no luck it was the same old split time atoms with hands together, hands apart wheel/wall, overhead/wheel stuff I always spin...I couldn't get anywhere near anything that could be called a flower.

So we got what looks and sounds like 45 degree planes here
And flowers

I need that missing piece. confused


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16.15.8
GOLD Member since Jul 2005

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Posted:There is no missing piece, I think. You do everything, it sounds like. What I would guess is wrong is the timing and the planes that needs to be perfect to make it possible to see two longarm patterns.

Hope you understand what I mean, I will soon post a video with some flower pattern photos in it, I will also show how they are done in the video. Maybe I should try out some 3D stuff and you totally see how it works?

Keep spinning, whatever you do, dont stop wink

//Thomas


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Stout
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Stout

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Posted:Perfect timing and planes ????

Damn

There's always a catch,,, isn't' there ?

I won't stop spinning until they have to pry the poi out of my cold, dead hands.. grin


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aston
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Posted:Stout: Excellent approach. wink

I am also having trouble getting clean patterns from the front. Think my angles are off.

Ah well, will keep trying.


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"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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Richee
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Posted:N > Again , I pressume directionless and time independent spinning!


Non-Https Image Link


Quote:I still think if you merge outside and inside,
you get the second picture.


Non-Https Image Link


Quote:I still think the front and side view shoud
be circle like, to get elliptic shape.

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Image time remain 15 days ...

Nice discussion, cm'on.

oops,

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16.15.8
GOLD Member since Jul 2005

16.15.8

I cant think therefore Im not
Location: In my backpack, United Kingdom

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Posted:I uploaded some more LED shots and one of them is 3D, the one in the bottom right corner, tried to make a 5 pedal antispin thats laying down on each side, imagine 2 fishes that swim to the right, that sort of thing.

I love spinning in 3D its like you ad another dimension tongue2

http://www.nevisoul.com/nevisoul/LED1.html


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Posted:This is proble going to sound really stupid but i'm new to forums so bere with me...

i dont understand wat the diagrams are for.. are they for isolation for just normal spin out of plane?
really sorry if you think its a stupid question but any help define wat you have posted would be great smile smile

vevisoul your pics are really interesting.


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Mother_Natures_Son
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Rampant whirler.
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Posted:I think the ellipses are the paths of the hands.

But I don't really understand the diagrams, just the concept. ^_^


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aston
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Posted:I think I get the diagrams.

Will let you know once I actually think about it.


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"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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pineapple pete
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Posted:im still staying at the church of poi.. and last week we doubled the amount of mirrors we have.. at some point in the next week and a half, im going to make a video, showing some of the possibilities of 3d flowers and such..

just letting you know now that this is the plan.. i may even make it tonight, or tomorow.. but it may not be up online for a while.. or it could be up on monday

things are a bit erratic at the moment

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Basstones
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Posted:Ah now its all starting to make alot more sense. Was getting a bit confused about the inside planes but diagrams helped lots. Shall be playing with this one tonight smile

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aston
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Posted:Incidentally, these can be done with the 45' planes meeting above your head or near your feet as well (just watch out if you take them across to the other side of your body). Or meeting behind you, but I find that hard.

Been playing with similar stuff recently, and remembered this thing. I think it finally clicked. grin Well, I know what is meant to happen. Whether it actually does is another story. rolleyes


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"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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Mother_Natures_Son
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Posted:If you can do flowers and you can't do these... you're overthinking it. smile

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aston
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Posted:I mean that they are not clean yet. I understand what is going on though. tongue2

And regarding clicked, it clicked a while ago, only just remembered what the thread was called.


'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
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