Forums > Beginner Poi Moves > HELP! about to give up

Imagine something witty or profound was here.

I once learned every move that there was,
Every style, Every technique.
Then I woke up, and forgot it all,
So now I struggle to dream.

Imbalance: Another thing that helps is to take a staff and hold it cross-armed and then do a weave motion. I dunno, it works for a few people I have shown but is hard to describe.

Saz: You can get it.

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Commander Schutz: Strange, and I thought you were an Aryan.
Jewish Barber: No, I'm a vegetarian.

I am what I am.

Dont start with the weave is my help. Imagine if there is 10.000 things to learn about poi on a list that�s made for a beginner nI guess that the weave is somewhere around place 5.000-7.000.
In my opinion people should learn so much other stuff before a 3bt weave. I know that it feels sweet to nail it and learn it but then what?
I remember how I started, I remember how long time it took me and now when I understand everything a little bit more I would start on a totally different way :-/
Don�t do my misstake, learn planes, timings, directions, turns, footwork, how to make circles (not ovals), how to grip your poi on different ways, differences between poi, bodypositions, spinning points, meeting points, crossers and then after this do the weave. Probalby you already learned the weave if you did the stuff above, it comes very naturally and it will be so much better performed if you practive the things above

That was a lot of text, it was just meant to be some tips for beginners and now when I read it it just sounds silly, weird and almost rude.

If you take it in and helps you I�m happy

Dreaming of circles

//Thomas

"I don�t like shoes, definitely not spinning with shoes, they make my feet feel flat, my feet are not flat...."

Originally Posted By: NevisoulDont start with the weave is my help. Imagine if there is 10.000 things to learn about poi on a list that�s made for a beginner nI guess that the weave is somewhere around place 5.000-7.000.
In my opinion people should learn so much other stuff before a 3bt weave. I know that it feels sweet to nail it and learn it but then what?
I remember how I started, I remember how long time it took me and now when I understand everything a little bit more I would start on a totally different way :-/
Don�t do my misstake, learn planes, timings, directions, turns, footwork, how to make circles (not ovals), how to grip your poi on different ways, differences between poi, bodypositions, spinning points, meeting points, crossers and then after this do the weave. Probalby you already learned the weave if you did the stuff above, it comes very naturally and it will be so much better performed if you practive the things above

That was a lot of text, it was just meant to be some tips for beginners and now when I read it it just sounds silly, weird and almost rude.

If you take it in and helps you I�m happy

Dreaming of circles

//Thomas
with the exception of what Thomas said about crossers, I wholeheartedly agree. However, it might be he was referring to crossovers, which is more fundamental than crossers( a move defined by first being able to weave or butterfly), then ..well....what he said.

"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

Originally Posted By: squidOriginally Posted By: thomasDont start with the weave is my help. Imagine if there is 10.000 things to learn about poi on a list that�s made for a beginner nI guess that the weave is somewhere around place 5.000-7.000.
In my opinion people should learn so much other stuff before a 3bt weave. I know that it feels sweet to nail it and learn it but then what?
I remember how I started, I remember how long time it took me and now when I understand everything a little bit more I would start on a totally different way :-/
Don�t do my misstake, learn planes, timings, directions, turns, footwork, how to make circles (not ovals), how to grip your poi on different ways, differences between poi, bodypositions, spinning points, meeting points, crossers and then after this do the weave. Probalby you already learned the weave if you did the stuff above, it comes very naturally and it will be so much better performed if you practive the things above

...I wholeheartedly agree...
...well....what he said.

another from me... although I can't apply it to poi, cos a 3bt, 5bt and ttn are about all I can do; but it applies equally to my preferred weapon of double staff, too.

I learnt like most people do, by copying figure 8s and propellers etc, but the figure 8 builds upon 1bts, which I didn't get to until fairly recently, when I picked up doubles for the first time.

learn the basics... it's not until you start to think more in terms of planes, angles, circles than tricks, that things like body movement will follow seamlessly.

is difficult to convince oneself to approach any task like this, however, because it's boring; I remember yuta saying in a poi workshop at uberoz last year, that he'd spend hours drilling circles, learning how to maintain planes, how big circles and little circles interact; what happens to them when you turn your hips, your shoulders etc. most people, myself included get trapped into learning the next "trick" cos it's cool and just plain more fun.

dunno what the answer is, though...

--pogo (pat) [forever and always]

'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.]
"How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice.
"You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here."
- Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland

"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow

Human

Originally Posted By: Mother_Natures_SonMe? Learn what? Turns? They came naturally later. I learned turns within the 3 beat rather than 'reel turns' which I think are labelled high and low turns.

I was asking dark dnb, he/she has not replied yet, I was hoping they got it!

Human

I am somewhat new to Poi but I love it!