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thepillowBRONZE Member stranger 8 posts Location: Netherlands
Posted: When i was at a psytrance festival i saw two people poying together. They would each have one poi and they would intertwine their arms in a very cool fashion while spinning. I have been trying to look for tutorials on poi with duos on youtube, but i couldnt find any. Does any of you know some good tut's on this?
Mother_Natures_SonSILVER Member Rampant whirler. 2,418 posts Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Posted: I dunno where any of that kind of junk is, but its not complicated stuff. Trial and error should help you out there. Its not about technicality, it tends to be about coordination between yourself and your partner.
astonSILVER Member Unofficial Chairperson of Squirrel Defense League 4,061 posts Location: South Africa
Posted: Also, getting someone who can work well with your way of poiing.
'We're all mad here. I'm mad, you're mad." [said the Cat.] "How do you know I'm mad?" said Alice. "You must be," said the Cat, "Or you wouldn't have come here." - Lewis Carroll, Alice's Adventures In Wonderland
Mother_Natures_SonSILVER Member Rampant whirler. 2,418 posts Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Posted: Yes... someone you can get comfy with, also. Think planes, timing, these are what you need to coordinate.
DaGGOLD Member Golf buggie driving instructor 156 posts Location: Brisvegas, Australia
Posted: Thread the needle works really well in duo and your arms 'intertwine'.
If you wanted to learn it, just break down a TTN, you take one arm and your partner takes the other. (I also find it helps at first if one person threads around the other for a few beats)
I think you can do most movements if you break them down in this way Weaves work well. So can hyperloops.
IceAngelSILVER Member newbie 41 posts Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted: There's a few really good videos of this at www.feuershow.de
From the main site click the british flag next to 'tutorials' at the bottom left of the screen.
Then click 'poi and friends'
Then 'duo tricks'
They have backwards and forwards thread the needle, 3 beat and 5 beat weaves.
On youtube there are also quite a few vids that use duo acts to good effects. Most of them are more just coordinated acts but some have a few interactive moves that could be good for ideas. I'll have to have a look and find them again
thepillowBRONZE Member stranger 8 posts Location: Netherlands
Posted: Thanks iceangel, that's what i was looking for!! And also thx to all other replies. cheers!
IceAngelSILVER Member newbie 41 posts Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted: Glad to help Here are two vids that I remember being good for ideas. Not sure whether there were many actual combined moves but they were nicely choreographed:
IceAngelSILVER Member newbie 41 posts Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted: and of course:
meshunderlayBRONZE Member Juggler/Spinner 612 posts Location: Hicksville, New York, USA
Posted: awesome. I hate to be corny, but.... That was "hot".... Sorry, it's late and my mind is easily amused by bad humor.
DyamiTKGOLD Member beginner forever 159 posts Location: Santa Cruz, Ca, USA
Posted:
The way I see it, poi (or any related prop dance) can be a partner dance just like any traditional partner dance. With that assumption I began to think, how do we interact? We have synchronization (which is easy if we have a sense of rhythm and timing), leading and following, superimposing (like Yuta and Ronan's flowers), mirroring, sparring, whatever. The main aspects of traditional partner dancing I've noticed so far which make it work are that there is a leader which gives cues and there are a specific set of moves which both partners know.
I haven't worked out exactly how to give the same kind of singles with poi since we do not really touch but I have started writing out set of moves. I have noticed a few distinct categories of poi interactions but I haven't thought of good names for them yet so I'll just write out the list I have so far. This is how I refer to the moves and more then likely will not make sense to everyone. So I am happy to give further descriptions.
(each partner does one side/hand of a move) - wall plane weave at each side, - arm wraps from wall plane weave at sides, - wall plane thread the needle at each side, - spiral wraps (perpendicular with hands pointing towards each other or at sides with hands pointing same direction), - air wraps, - hyperloops,
(poi move around each other) - butterfly reels, - butterfly (facing same direction or each other), - partner crossers (hug), - shoulder-hip reels (same direction) to spin 180 around each other, - corkscrew matrix,
(poi stall around each other) - vertical stalls into butterfly hug, - skip and stall, - opposite/same direction stalls over-under arms (side planes): - inside 5 beat weave,
- back to back weave in side planes, - back to back weave (180 in wall plane), - face to face behind the back weave - face to face behind the back waistwrap (180 weave) - buzzsaw back bend, - thread the needle back bend, - back to back horizontal buzzsaw rotating,
- superimposed flower patterns, - rising/falling buzzsaw column, - tossing, - partner balancing, - pass poi from weave (one set),
and some inspiration:
Barefoot Fire: Fire Poi Duet (w/ Marina)
Barefoot Fire: 05/06 Poi- Staff- Swords
Nick and Yuta #2: (Fire) Poi Story
Camb Burn Yourself Battlefinale 2006
Yuta & Ronan - Poi Interactions
Mother_Natures_SonSILVER Member Rampant whirler. 2,418 posts Location: Geelong, Victoria, Australia!
Posted: If we're moving into stuff like this don't forget
IceAngelSILVER Member newbie 41 posts Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted: i have some of duet video. I hope it might be interesting
Sombra the art of flames
IceAngelSILVER Member newbie 41 posts Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posted: that was so beautiful! thanks so much very inspiring!
DyamiTKGOLD Member beginner forever 159 posts Location: Santa Cruz, Ca, USA
Posted: Yes! It can be done, yay!
I want more
DarkenAvatar of the Dancing Fire 59 posts Location: Las Vegas, NV
Posted: I recently began choreography of a new duo routine using FLOWTOYS!!
I dont want to toot my own horn, cause im positive some of you PWN me.
But damn, its gorgeous.
The moves themselves are dazzling, the problem isnt so much the execution as the timing. I find the beauty of the show to be 20% complexity, 80% symmetry.
The worst part of it being, after about 4 hours of practice, we have about 30 seconds of show.
But theyre the most beautiful 30 seconds ive ever been a part of.
I <3 duo poi.
"if you dont have anything nice to say, dont say anything at all."
-Golden Rule
"F*ck you. I spin fire."
-Darkens 3rd law
DyamiTKGOLD Member beginner forever 159 posts Location: Santa Cruz, Ca, USA
Posted: repetition is ok, or even the same moves in a different sequence.
Posted: Me and Tintale are prepering a tutorial of duo tricks. We made today a video of some tricks, but we didn't focused at basic moves only some advanced. Im confusing to make tutorial of basic moves too, but on fireshow.de there are some good basic moves, so i don't know is it needed to make baseic tricks in our tutorial.