Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...
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That's become standard dialogue for community/charity groups and, of course, there is an element of truth in it.
But, I feel, there's also often an element of b*llshit in it as well.
In a way, I think it would be better if they said 'can you do this free, or for very little, as a genuine act of charity to benefit those less fortunate', rather than making out that it's such a great 'networking opportunity/opportunity to get yourself known' that it's them doing you a favour, rather than the other way round.
I {Heart} hand me downs and spinning in the snow.<br /><br />
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I am still thinking that there are too many assumptions being made about whether or not people appropriately value the circus/performers. ... What is it exactly that makes you feel under valued? Just because someone asks you to perform for free?
I {Heart} hand me downs and spinning in the snow.<br /><br />
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....
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I don't think it's wrong for charities to ask for free gigs...except that they don't ask for them from other schools of performance. Although I do think that they should pay for expenses.
Written by : Rozi
Explain that you may choose to waive some or all of that fee, dependent on the opportunity. Ask them to quantify exactly what publicity/exposure/experience you will be getting from it (eg. a logo on the program, or a chance to meet the crown heads of europe).
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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Sword swallowing acts are often with fire. As is juggling.
I admit, completely off topic but this really has me interested.
Since I'm associated with the Sword Swallower's Association International and know many of it's members personally, I know most do nothing with fire. This has me confused and I would love to understand this statement more. Thanks.
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
Written by :FireTom
PS: Nat... you're a professional performer, are you? Does it mean that you are feeding yourself only by your gigs, or do you in fact have some other subsidies (that other 'pros' don't have? )
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We got asked to do a festival (who are worse than charities when it comes to blagging)
.....Can't juggle balls but I sure as hell can juggle details....
"the geeks have got you" - Gayle
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
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Of course, it doesn't hurt to ask for expenses, but don't be bratty if they don't because it's a CHARITY
"the geeks have got you" - Gayle
Never pick up a duck in a dungeon...
Pele
Higher, higher burning fire...making music like a choir
"Oooh look! A pub!" -exclaimed after recovering from a stupid fall
"And for the decadence of art, nothing beats a roaring fire." -TMK
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THE MEEK WILL INHERIT THE EARTH!
If that's okay with you?
Written by :simta
i'm tempted to say its cos we all look like we're enjoying it too much. so they feel they dont need to give money for something thats enjoyable, cos thats not "proper" work
maybe we all need to become bit more staunch-faced
the best smiles are the ones you lead to
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How many of you would ask a mate to take some publicity shots, and get them a beer for it, rather than pay a pro?
I think this is different though:
if a friend asks me to do something for less than going rate or free, it's likely because they don't have the money and I know them well enough to know that's true (and I don't know many people, if any, who don't do "mate's rates").
If someone from a company asks, who I don't know from Adam, I'm unlikely to know whether they're lying about their "budget" or not.
THE MEEK WILL INHERIT THE EARTH!
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Nat: As long as you're the only professional troupe in Perth and sub' I reckon it's alright to play for free as long as you get the chuckles. As soon as they are others in the area you simply turn the screw in the wrong direction.
As OWD already pointed out: If you make your name with freebies, it's hard(er) to charge reasonable money later. IMHO you're a 'pro' as soon as you charge money - it doesn't say anything about your capabilities...
THE MEEK WILL INHERIT THE EARTH!
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