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onewheeldave
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Posted:The next post contains an attempt to quote and reply to a post (from the buddhist thread)-

"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
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onewheeldave
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Posted: Written by : Stone



Fire Tom, you are entitled to your opinion:



 Written by :

….as it gets funny (strange) how you can't stop to attack me for questioning your belief system and criticising mainstream Buddhist' approach. I will cease to pay attention to your postings/ to take you seriously if your attitude towards me remains like this - I am part of this 'world outside your head'.





A question is generally a request for information, not a diatribe. I’m not attacking you. Though, if you are criticizing a persons belief system, and you say you are, then you may encounter a little resistance.



This is a very good question:



 Written by :

…Having said this: to me it's funny how the 'self' ("ego" in this case) is condemned to be the "source of all evil/ suffering" - certain that it doesn't deserve this verdict.





I’m not prepared to even try to answer it, as you think it’s an attack.



Though, I will be interested to see how others answer.





My reply goes here.........


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onewheeldave
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Posted:Obviously, it's a real mess- the 'quote function' just can't seem to cope, and this has been a problem for some years.



Often, by tampering with the code I can get it looking right, but it's sometimes a real pain having to sort it out.



Can someone fix it?



First problem is that it substitutes '"&#8230" for punctuation marks.



Second problem is that it includes my reply (and signature) in the 'quote'part.



Does anyone else have the same problem? Or, is this just some weird issue with my computer?


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But you can make the Bastard work for it."

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"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


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Posted:can't say ive ever had that problem before dave.. sorry i cant help hug

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Gnor
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Posted:Ive had it seemingly work sometimes and not others. There was a post about how to make it work at some point. Something to do with capitals and backslashes

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Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

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Posted:i've had that problem too, and had to go back and fiddle with code, which is no fun.

Dom????


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Gnor
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Posted:George??

Is it the Truth?
Is it Fair to all concerned?
Will it build Goodwill and Better Friendships?
Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

Im in a lonely battle with the world with a fish to match the chip on my shoulder. Gnu in Binnu in a cnu

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Spanner
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Posted:I've had this problem for time but only when editing an existing post.

Bit of a history of this as well:
Board 'quote' function problem
HOP editing post, quote problem


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TheBovrilMonkey
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Posted: Written by: onewheeldave


Obviously, it's a real mess- the 'quote function' just can't seem to cope, and this has been a problem for some years.

Often, by tampering with the code I can get it looking right, but it's sometimes a real pain having to sort it out.

Can someone fix it?

First problem is that it substitutes '"&#8230" for punctuation marks.

Second problem is that it includes my reply (and signature) in the 'quote'part.

Does anyone else have the same problem? Or, is this just some weird issue with my computer?



I've not had the first problem, but the &#8230 isn't replacing " marks - it's replacing something else - if you have a look in Stone's post in the Buddhism thread, there's something else in there. I have no idea what it's called though.

For the second part, it happens when someone quotes a post that uses quotes but has no name inside the quote tags.
In the original post, semicolons are added into the quote tag automatically. When someone then quotes that post, the combination of : and ] (the end of the quote tag) messes things up a bit.
Taking out the semicolons seems to work to sort it out.

Not sure if that helps much. *shrug*


But there's no sense crying over every mistake. You just keep on trying till you run out of cake.

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Stone
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Posted:Bovril, I think it was something I did.

I generally just type in [quote ] comments [slash quote]

Thats probably caused the problem.


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FireTom
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Posted:Dave



- this is the wrong forum, sorry to say but it should be in "technical discussion"



- you have a full mess for some reasons:



a) every  Written by : xyz

needs to be closed



every  Written by : xyz

 Written by : abc

sub-quote needs to be closed







b) when you use " " within quoting it has the potential to go weird. I have pointed this out in another thread about the same topic, problem is still not fixed, what to do?



c) whenever someone is not quoting their source it gets potentially messy, i.e.  Written by : QUOTE YOUR SOURCE



In this case it's been Stone.



So taking your OP of this thread:



 Written by : onewheeldave



 Written by : Stone



Fire Tom, ....



 Written by : FireTom

it gets funny...





A question...



 Written by : FireTom

Having said this:





I'm not prepared...





My reply goes here.........





So I show you the same result without source quoted:





 Written by : onewheeldave



 Written by : Stone



Fire Tom, ....



 Written by :

it gets funny...





A question...



 Written by : FireTom

Having said this:





I'm not prepared...





My reply goes here.........



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onewheeldave
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Posted:Thanks for that FireTom- so basically the problem occurs when someone either does use the 'quote' button, but then strips out the source, or, when they do the quote without using the 'quote' button and writing the code out themselves, without including a source?

And, that doesn't manifest as a problem with that actual post, but, when quoted later in a later post, as a 'nested' quote, it becomes a mess?

So- to test that out

 Written by: with source


test quote with source




and

 Written by:


test quote without source




both work fine in this post


"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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onewheeldave
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Posted:but when quoting the above post using the 'quote' button, the second one goes messy-

 Written by: onewheeldave


Thanks for that FireTom- so basically the problem occurs when someone either does use the 'quote' button, but then strips out the source, or, when they do the quote without using the 'quote' button and writing the code out themselves, without including a source?

And, that doesn't manifest as a problem with that actual post, but, when quoted later in a later post, as a 'nested' quote, it becomes a mess?

So- to test that out

 Written by: with source


test quote with source




and

 Written by: ]
test quote without source
[/quote



both work fine in this post



"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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onewheeldave
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Posted:So, Stone- if writing out the quote code yourself, if you're not going to put a source, I think you need to, after writing 'quote' in the square brackets, ensure that it's followed by a : and, at least one space, before closing the square brackets.



As in the following, which, though having no source, does contain the colon (:) and a space



 Written by:



test quote with no source, but with a colon and space




EDITED_BY: onewheeldave (1205038013)


"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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onewheeldave
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Posted:and also works when quoted as a nested quote-

 Written by: onewheeldave


So, Stone- if writing out the quote code yourself, if you're not going to out a source, I think you need to ensure that, after writing 'quote' in the square brackets, you need to ensure that it's followed by a : and, at least one space, before closing the square brackets.

As in the following, which, though having no source, does contain the colon (:) and a space

 Written by:


test quote with no source, but with a colon and space






"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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onewheeldave
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Posted:and, again-

 Written by: onewheeldave


and also works when quoted as a nested quote-

 Written by: onewheeldave


So, Stone- if writing out the quote code yourself, if you're not going to out a source, I think you need to ensure that, after writing 'quote' in the square brackets, you need to ensure that it's followed by a : and, at least one space, before closing the square brackets.

As in the following, which, though having no source, does contain the colon (:) and a space

 Written by:


test quote with no source, but with a colon and space








"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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onewheeldave
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Posted:and, once more, just to make sure

 Written by: onewheeldave


and, again-

 Written by: onewheeldave


and also works when quoted as a nested quote-

 Written by: onewheeldave


So, Stone- if writing out the quote code yourself, if you're not going to out a source, I think you need to ensure that, after writing 'quote' in the square brackets, you need to ensure that it's followed by a : and, at least one space, before closing the square brackets.

As in the following, which, though having no source, does contain the colon (:) and a space

 Written by:


test quote with no source, but with a colon and space










"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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FireTom
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Posted:as already figured here wink tongue



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onewheeldave
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Posted:It was, but not, I feel, with the same degree of clarity, given the amount of confusion on that thread smile

I'd like to make it clear that I still regard this as a 'bug' in the quote function, as-

although it could be argued that the problem is that people are creating the problem by using quote in the wqrong way, the fact remains that the 'quote' function itself is not consistent.

For example, when Stone writes out his quote thing, it seems to work correctly in that post- gibberish only appears when that initial quote-containing post is then quoted again by someone else.

It is thus inconsistent- it should either not work on the initial post (so providing useful immediate feedback), or, if it's going to work on the initial post, it should then consistently handle it in all subsequent re-quotes.


"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."

--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32


Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!

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Malcolm
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Posted:This is the code



I believe Dom edited the code already ( long time ago). Anyone expert at php? who can help



Here is the code script text


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Stone
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Posted:Dave, thanks for the advice on correcting my code.

The gibberish has something to do with apostrophes.

When re-quoted, I'm becomes I’m

When this happens I just edited out the ’


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Lurch
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Posted:It's showing the HTML code for unique characters. … is an ellipsis.

I don't generally put the source into quotes unless it's a big long complicated reply, but I'll remember to at least leave a space from now on


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FireTom
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Posted:This or quote your sources umm ubblol

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Durbs
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Posted:Pfff - too late, but do a search wink

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Malcolm
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Posted:I am sure I have fixed it now.

Now it will recognise a quote, no matter if you list the source or use a : and now also in both upper case and lower case.


"May your balls always burn"

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Malcolm
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Posted:Testing of FireTom's examples

 Written by :FireTom


Dave

- this is the wrong forum, sorry to say but it should be in "technical discussion"

- you have a full mess for some reasons:

a) every  Written by : xyz

needs to be closed


every  Written by : xyz

 Written by : abc

sub-quote needs to be closed





b) when you use " " within quoting it has the potential to go weird. I have pointed this out in another thread about the same topic, problem is still not fixed, what to do?

c) whenever someone is not quoting their source it gets potentially messy, i.e.  Written by : QUOTE YOUR SOURCE



In this case it's been Stone.

So taking your OP of this thread:

 Written by : onewheeldave


 Written by : Stone


Fire Tom, ....

 Written by : FireTom

it gets funny...



A question...

 Written by : FireTom

Having said this:



I'm not prepared...



My reply goes here.........



So I show you the same result without source quoted:


 Written by : onewheeldave


 Written by : Stone


Fire Tom, ....

 Written by :

it gets funny...



A question...

 Written by : FireTom

Having said this:



I'm not prepared...



My reply goes here.........





"May your balls always burn"

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Malcolm
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Posted:You must however still remember to use [ / quote ] (without spaces) once you have finished the quote

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UCOF
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Posted:I love Malcolm more than I love my socks (which is a surprisingly large amount!)

ubblove

Thanks Malcolm! hug2


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Gnor
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Posted: Written by :UnderControlOrFailure


I love Malcolm more than I love my socks (which is a surprisingly large amount!)

ubblove

Thanks Malcolm! hug2



What he said ditto
and its fixed...excellent!


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Will it be Beneficial to all concerned?

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FireTom
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Posted:grouphug

pw...ing for the right reasons wink


the best smiles are the ones you lead to wink

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