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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
Posted:
THE VIEW PRESENT HERE IS MINE ALONE. REFLECTING ONE
CURRENT UNDERSTANDING AND MAY CHANGE LATE A DAY.
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I/O SYSTEM
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1/2 Introversion(Rev's inswing) / Inside frame
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Here is slight naming confusion, because what Rev's originaly
state as Introversion, is two different inswings together, so I
took only the half.
'Inside plane is the opposite of Introversion.'
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Nocoleman 2(Cole's inswing) / Outside frame
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Notcoleman2 is parallel, ! Cole's 3 decyphering, also second
inswing, also the 'top' lead buzzsaw.
'Outside plane is opposite to Notcoleman.'
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! Poi transformation(..)
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There are 2 transformations I know about:
a) Inside transformation
Wheel plane inside, double Poi stop, high "buzzsaw"
only by your body, with 'Poi' cross-over finish.
b) Outside transformation:
-SWheel plane outside, double Poi stop, high "0 turn"
only by your body, with 'hand' cross-over finish.
'No matter what system we enter, the resolution
is the same cross-over.'
MIRRORING | FRAMING | TURNING
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Synthetic => (A + B -> C )
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Synthetic is view of move beeing reflection in the mirror.
Example: Butterfly (Side)
Mirror: Butterfly Weave (Side)
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Analytic => (B -> A)
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Analytic is view of move being final buzzsaw / cross-over
simplification or amplification from initial path sequence.
Example: BF (Frame)
Framing: TTN (Frame)
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Complex => (A)
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When move isn't either synthetic or analytic, then is atom.
Example: Butterfly (Sphere)
Turning: Weave (Sphere)
'Move is close balance system.' or 'Rutine in routine.'
RULE OF CROSS-OVER
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Right lead (over, +1)
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Right lead cross-over.
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Buzzsaw (0 degree)
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No lead, but buzzsaw.
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Left lead (over, -1 degree)
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Left lead cross over.
'Thinking 1/2 beat.'
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END.
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:R
THE VIEW PRESENT HERE IS MINE ALONE. REFLECTING ONE
CURRENT UNDERSTANDING AND MAY CHANGE LATE A DAY.
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Non-Https Image Link
I/O SYSTEM
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
1/2 Introversion(Rev's inswing) / Inside frame
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Here is slight naming confusion, because what Rev's originaly
state as Introversion, is two different inswings together, so I
took only the half.
'Inside plane is the opposite of Introversion.'
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Nocoleman 2(Cole's inswing) / Outside frame
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Notcoleman2 is parallel, ! Cole's 3 decyphering, also second
inswing, also the 'top' lead buzzsaw.
'Outside plane is opposite to Notcoleman.'
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
! Poi transformation(..)
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
There are 2 transformations I know about:
a) Inside transformation
Wheel plane inside, double Poi stop, high "buzzsaw"
only by your body, with 'Poi' cross-over finish.
b) Outside transformation:
-SWheel plane outside, double Poi stop, high "0 turn"
only by your body, with 'hand' cross-over finish.
'No matter what system we enter, the resolution
is the same cross-over.'
MIRRORING | FRAMING | TURNING
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Synthetic => (A + B -> C )
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Synthetic is view of move beeing reflection in the mirror.
Example: Butterfly (Side)
Mirror: Butterfly Weave (Side)
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Analytic => (B -> A)
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Analytic is view of move being final buzzsaw / cross-over
simplification or amplification from initial path sequence.
Example: BF (Frame)
Framing: TTN (Frame)
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Complex => (A)
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When move isn't either synthetic or analytic, then is atom.
Example: Butterfly (Sphere)
Turning: Weave (Sphere)
'Move is close balance system.' or 'Rutine in routine.'
RULE OF CROSS-OVER
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Right lead (over, +1)
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Right lead cross-over.
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Buzzsaw (0 degree)
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No lead, but buzzsaw.
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Left lead (over, -1 degree)
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Left lead cross over.
'Thinking 1/2 beat.'
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END.
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:R
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Location: melbourne, Australia
Posted:
confusion... correct
confusion... correct
"you know there are no trophys for doing silly things in real life yeah pete?" said ant "you wont get a 'listened to ride of the valkyries all the way to vietnam' trophy"
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Posted:
Rob - hurry up with camera
kthxbai
Rob - hurry up with camera
kthxbai
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Posted:
i've ordered it...... but actually i understand this. maybe. aprt from the bit at the end. and the middle.
i've ordered it...... but actually i understand this. maybe. aprt from the bit at the end. and the middle.
Holistic Spinner (I hope)
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Posted:
I need to become more cryptic
and use venn diagrams.
I need to become more cryptic
and use venn diagrams.
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sanguine
382 posts
Location: sur, USA
sanguine
382 posts
Location: sur, USA
Posted:
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slight typo re: ! Poi Transformation. I think you meant 1 Poi Transformation....:P
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I almost understand this, but I want to ask a clarifying question. Is the following true?:
Mirroring = C
Framing = B
Turning= A
?
If so, then I get it. Ex: 3bt weave is a case of poi mirroring (or chasing) each other in the same pattern.
Framing then would be postional to the body, ie: the difference between a 3bt weave and a reverse 3bt weave. If Im following correctly, then B->(A) is akin to things like a fountain, where the framing is reliant upon turning the body to continue the frame of any turning move)
Turning without framing is a bit of a mystery to me, but I think Im visualizing a pirouette sort of thing.
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rule of crossover: would the left hand (over) not be a -1 degree, since the poi is rotating on the outside of the body's perpendicular point?
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slight typo re: ! Poi Transformation. I think you meant 1 Poi Transformation....:P
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I almost understand this, but I want to ask a clarifying question. Is the following true?:
Mirroring = C
Framing = B
Turning= A
?
If so, then I get it. Ex: 3bt weave is a case of poi mirroring (or chasing) each other in the same pattern.
Framing then would be postional to the body, ie: the difference between a 3bt weave and a reverse 3bt weave. If Im following correctly, then B->(A) is akin to things like a fountain, where the framing is reliant upon turning the body to continue the frame of any turning move)
Turning without framing is a bit of a mystery to me, but I think Im visualizing a pirouette sort of thing.
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rule of crossover: would the left hand (over) not be a -1 degree, since the poi is rotating on the outside of the body's perpendicular point?
"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow
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Posted:
SQUID!
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Are you proxy?
I know,
:R
SQUID!
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Are you proxy?
I know,
:R
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sanguine
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Location: sur, USA
sanguine
382 posts
Location: sur, USA
Posted:
Im guessing, by your reaction and the editted update on your original post, that I may have gotten you correctly. But now I am still equally anxious to see that video camera make it to you so that I can get a proper picture of (A).
So, all this time you haven't been making totally new concepts have you? You have been dissecting and analyzing concepts that we all know but are putting them into outlines. I will have to go review your older threads and see if I can start re-interpreting what you put out there.
very scientific of you.;)
Im guessing, by your reaction and the editted update on your original post, that I may have gotten you correctly. But now I am still equally anxious to see that video camera make it to you so that I can get a proper picture of (A).
So, all this time you haven't been making totally new concepts have you? You have been dissecting and analyzing concepts that we all know but are putting them into outlines. I will have to go review your older threads and see if I can start re-interpreting what you put out there.
very scientific of you.;)
"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow
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HOP librarian
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Location: Prague, Czech. Republic
Posted:
Tech?
:R
Written by:
Squid
very scientific of you.;)
Tech?
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sanguine
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Location: sur, USA
sanguine
382 posts
Location: sur, USA
Posted:
uber-tech.
uber-tech.
"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow
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