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entheogen
entheogen

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Posted:I think its time to restart the staff juggling thread in the advanced forum.

Since quite a few ideas were mentioned in the old thread that don`t seem to really fit in a beginners section.

I would really appreciate if people would post there ideas.
But do me a favor and make a distinction between claiming
to really have a move and random ideas.
it will help reduce misunderstandings
wink
And it will give us a better over view where people are.

To get you started :
I was playing around with a lot of 531522 variations

one is (i think) quite interesting
you know the one throw were you throw a staff as a waist cross and catch it with the other hand on the opposite side of the waist
use it as the 3
it is fun biggrin


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bluecat
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Posted:should i copy and paste? or do i need to practise the 423's more before i can post them here?

wink


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entheogen
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Posted:i would say copy and paste gonna do it
...
but you should always practice more weavesmiley


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bluecat
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Posted:ok:

pasted from the other thread:
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several borrowed club patterns tried yesterday, and occasionally succeeded, enough to make me think theyll be solid if i work on them:
423 (the 4 and 3 are both from a wall plane spun cascade) where the two is:
spun back over the shoulder like a nunchuck
neck rolled, horizontal
body rolled, fromt to back
fishtailed

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and in a less spinny-type blatant juggling rip off (but still with 90cm staffs) i can get a fairly solid above the head pattern going, and have managed some nice 441s, but need to be happier with a 3 being either inwards or outwards before i get solid. 64113 is also on the cards, but i need a much higher ceiling than i've been having, and it's too cold to try outside.

i pick up my golf clubs in a couple of weeks, and that's where the fun (and new act) is gonna be.


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Konstantin
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Posted:where could i find explanation of all these 441s 423s,..?
thks



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Posted:Giggle!

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Posted:wicked. i'll get working then. and order a spangly leotard....

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FireNix
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Posted:Nah thats easy Durbs - Its all in the Leotard.
Honestly Bro - you just have to practice and perform in one of those spangly, silver, sequined, spandex numbers and you'd be doing the same stuff.
Trust me Bro - and when you do all your natty moves can you make sure someone films and YouTubes it.....Erm not for any kind of hilarity for this cumminity...but...for...erm.... Eductational purposes - Yeah thats it. Not for me to have a bloody BIG laugh - honest....(did I just type that out loud?!)


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FireNix
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Posted:PS eek
Shame on us and our pathetic amount of practice


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bluecat
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Posted:on you perhaps... i just tried my 5 staff juggle for the first time... pattern is there, but is very, very hard. managed 4 catches and rethrows (decided trying for a flash will beharder than just going for it....)

eek.

incidentally, here is a nice pic wot clare took of me doing 4. i think i caught all of them, but it was uberwindy.


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pineapple pete
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Posted:well done rob :applause:

im determined to put more effort into this once my final exams are over.. until then, i have no new 'i got this'

on the other hand, i believe 441 could be do-able.. with the '1' being something more staff based than just a staight zip.. maybe something over the shoulders smile

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Mynci
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Posted:How about a halo or angel roll?

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


yoni
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Posted:I imagine an angel roll would take too long for a 1, but could probably be used in place of a 3 in other patterns.

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pineapple pete
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Posted:im not-so-good with my contact staff names at the moment.. i can do a good portion, and know how to do a larger portion, but names escape me.. i might re-watch meg's contact tuts then tell you smile



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edit: yes, i was thinking a short halo roll smile



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Mynci
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Posted:with high enogh throws surely a talented juggler could do the box with an angel roll pass *ponders*

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


yoni
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Posted: Written by: Mynci


with high enogh throws surely a talented juggler could do the box with an angel roll pass *ponders*



that would be sweeeet, looks like i may have to get my short staffs out again


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JohnnyFettucini
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Posted:Nice thread benstix smile

Check out some of the stuff that Anthony Gatto
( http://youtube.com/watch?v=DlORbDOjTeU )is doing at 5:18
would be nice to try and translate that trick into a staff trick. What do you think?



animatEd
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Posted:And the difference between this and the other staff juggling thread is?

Oh yeah, this one says advanced in the title... silly me.

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entheogen
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Posted:"And the difference between this and the other staff juggling thread is?"

Should up Ed ubblol

you cant even hold a staff properly, so what you doing here confused

@ johnny
"Check out some of the stuff that Anthony Gatto
( http://youtube.com/watch?v=DlORbDOjTeU )is doing at 5:18
would be nice to try and translate that trick into a staff trick. What do you think?"

im a bit confused, do you mean the balance trick
and than catch staffs up there ??

i think that would definitely be one of the silliest tricks
i have seen (-:

or do you mean at 6:18 the underarm combinations with back crosses , yes thats more than doable

not sure what you meant, sry


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entheogen
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Posted: Written by: yoni


I imagine an angel roll would take too long for a 1, but could probably be used in place of a 3 in other patterns.



im actually working on it since this year not really regularly tho

and in an 531 pattern

i find it to be super hard to get solid


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bluecat
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Posted:mmm.

on a slow puter so i can't see the trcks your talking about... but have put in halo 3s (last nght), but a smoth angel takes a bit longer.. means adding a spin in at least... i'll have a play today (though with my new ultralight TM juggling staffs some contact is tricky, and i certainly can't do a lot of high throws in the wind....).

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Mynci
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Posted:could always do a fishtail for a 2 or possibly a 4

eg. 442 (2 in 1 hand + fishtail) would really work the old shoulders though eek


A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


yoni
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Posted:do you mean 441?

UCOF "evolution: Poi -> stick -> hoops -> devil stick -> juggling club -> juggling ball -> crayons."

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pineapple pete
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Posted:442's not a valid siteswap wink

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Mynci
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Posted:I know it should be 42 but I wasn't looking redface typing too fast again. ubblol

A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.


bastl
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Posted:so what is the difference to the old thread ?


to mynci: 42 with fishtales is relativ easy to get, once you can play fishtales blind, the tricky one is to swop hands wink

need to build new staffs AGAIN mad & sleep


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tim_marston
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Posted:hey people hug
johnny(nice to see you hear fellabeerchug) im not sure what you mean about 5.18mins(gatto vid) its a ball juggling trick with a balance?
i have however watched many gatto videos for inspiration and im trying to work on three staff juggling patterns based around the feet using gatto videos and others(manuel alavarez and yvgeni biljauer)for ideas to steal!
as always i try to limit myself to a couple of new tricks a year and hope a three staff foot juggling pattern will be the next addition. juggle

Bastl why do you wear womens clothing by the way? winkI keep forgetting to ask? biggrin



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Posted:sorry for the spelling mistakes redface


bluecat
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Posted:so, if you are doing 42 take the hand that is doing the 2 and pass the staff between your legs, let it drop down onto your foot... then you are in a lovely position for a kick up back into three. my left is chronically sketchy at this, so currently i'm a bit one sided.

got a few more, but this is one of the more spinning friendly ones rather than just another juggling trick transferred.

the reason for the new thread is explained in the first post, bastl - it was in the wrong place, not that there was anything different. noticed the separation in HOP?

why the new staffs?


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