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entheogen
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Posted:I think its time to restart the staff juggling thread in the advanced forum.

Since quite a few ideas were mentioned in the old thread that don`t seem to really fit in a beginners section.

I would really appreciate if people would post there ideas.
But do me a favor and make a distinction between claiming
to really have a move and random ideas.
it will help reduce misunderstandings
wink
And it will give us a better over view where people are.

To get you started :
I was playing around with a lot of 531522 variations

one is (i think) quite interesting
you know the one throw were you throw a staff as a waist cross and catch it with the other hand on the opposite side of the waist
use it as the 3
it is fun biggrin


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bastl
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Posted:right, i just thought you can move whole threads to the new part... anyway.

yo tim:
i am mostly wearing a kilt -male clothing
but anyway i love skirts, since ever, they are so compftable to wear, specially in summer times wink -you should take a look at my golden dress ubblol

hey rob:
new staff: hm my old ones are not suitable for stage anymore. i still cant find a propper solution, so the staff doesnt push through the soft-cover-ends....so i had to tape them for 531 festival -looked a bit [censored] wink


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Mynci
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Posted:could you afix a round stopper to the end which is wider than the staff seb? like a drawing (push) pin? would reduce the pressure on the end, even a ping pong ball may work.

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Posted:mmm. i've gone through mine already, but am about to fix up with plugs and neoprene..... hopefully this'll work. but to be honest it deosn't affect them at all... so why was it so bad that you needed to fix them up?

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bastl
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Posted:hmmm first i dont like half way working design wink -i studied product design so i should find a solution wink

anyway, first the staff breaks through, than the "head" gets loose, and than lego-techniques are so much harder to play...

in the moment i am on similar trip: plugs and a kind of plastic the internettranslator doesnt find an english word for wink
lets see how lond it will last hug

mynci: good idea, i am searching since ages for such a rubber-push-pin-thing, couldnt find it so far...any ideas where to look ?


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Posted:mmm. except i made mine attach very securely with innovative tape cutting techniques wink

so the end is crap, but its not going anywhere. i did got the other end wrong, so need to buy some more poles for lego work. i can't wait to play. can we make a juggly-legoey-geeky show, bastl?


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bastl
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Posted: Written by: bluecat


can we make a juggly-legoey-geeky show, bastl?



oh yes, that will be good...more than up for this hug


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Mynci
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Posted:try a furniture or hardware store, you can find things like rubber feet for tables etc for wood floors biggrin
OR take a craft knife to a rubber ball hug


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bastl
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Posted:cheers mynci,
that are good ideas, i havent tried the rubberball-knife version wink

but i have been to every toolshop/furniture accessories in vienna wink
nothing which fits...


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Mynci
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Posted:If I find any I'll post them ubblol

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bastl
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Posted:wicked dude
that would be great!
how is your mills going on ?


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Mynci
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Posted:painfully ubblol I'm doing a lot more stuff with clubs too I'm planning on spending the next year on juggling I need to tidy my planes a bit but am getting 2 staffs in 1 hand slowly, switching between left and right dunno the sitswap but its something like 423

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Posted:what is lego-techniques?

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bastl
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Posted:you know "lego" with clubs ?
basicly the same just with staffs.
quite hard to descripe with words,

hm: you dont throw all objects continiously like sitwswaps.
you most of the time trap one staff with the 2nd one (or a body parts) and than throw/drop/lock the 3rd one, and repeat pattern in mirrored way.

any idea what i am talking about ?


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Mynci
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Posted:Like making and A shape by holding 2 staffs into a V and locking the 3rd across?

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bastl
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Posted:h kind of, in order to make it a lego you have to loop it into a repetative pattern. Most of the time the objects swop positions. Most legos have this stop & go ryhthm -feel to them.
I played a playfestival one simple lego pattern, the last figure in the 1st song, if you can remember..
more clear now ?


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Mynci
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Posted:frown All my props have been nicked so any advice on size and weight for making new juggling staffs will be appreciated :cry:

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why
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Posted: Written by: Mynci


frown All my props have been nicked ... :cry:

eek that's pants!

For juggling people seem to favour something smaller, with reasonably weighted ends... as far as I can tell confused


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Mynci
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Posted:I'm not sure if I should just make some practice ones for now, lights and soft my fire ones were nice if a little awkward. I'm gonna give it some thought

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mcp
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Posted:Just use CLUBS.

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=1vAE74qeRBA

See, now that's what I call spinning and juggling. Pwoar!


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mcp
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Posted:or smaller sticks... must make the 5 cascade easier...

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=FQTfeNiB8wg

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willworkforfoodjnr
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Posted:Haha that was special!

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bastl
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Posted: Written by: Mynci



I'm not sure if I should just make some practice ones for now, lights and soft my fire ones were nice if a little awkward. I'm gonna give it some thought





yo dude

i love my just practice staffs...so much better than this fire staffs which are banned to downsstairs in the garage..for various reasons:



healthiness: matt from tirasaru tested out that the level of particulate matter in his cuboard with all his fire toys in, is the same as on the high way in austria

eek confused eek

he strongly recommends not to have ANY fire toys inside your living area....



so even for training its much nicer to have separate staffs, also they are not dirty, dont stink, and are much easier to transport into traininghalls etc...

even its nice to somethimes eat anything during training without being disgust by the colour of your fingers wink



even 3 staffs techniques:

they just take ages to train BEFORE firetraining starts at all ..it has some quality to it, to have to train your technique until its reached a certain level. and than transfer the technique to freshly build fire staffs = enter next level.



in generall, i would recommend to make yourself cozy, soft cover ends and thick grip bands..makes everything easier...but be aware that most fire staffs arent like that wink


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Mynci
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Posted:cheers dude wink I think I'll go with that. biggrin

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Posted:hey, Lee - just thinking about your bad back - you should make some uber light ones. Mine have done wonders for my shoulders and back, and actually make me want to practise more.

i'll put the design on when i'm not on my way out the door.

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Mynci
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Posted:Cheers dude hug although my back has been much better since the chiropractor

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Irinus
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Posted:Aaah, so this is why I haven't seen anything on the staff juggling thread for ages.

Mynci, much sympathy about the staves, left mine on the tube last year, still recovering frown


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Posted:i had a nice juggle yesterday after watching the VIDEO OF DOOM!




no really new tricks, but a lot more comfort with some patterns, and i've some nice ideas to play on when a bit more back into it (a month of aerial , poi, and angle grinding has kept me busy...)

but i have a camera now! so more interesting stuff soon.


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Posted:wooo! meg and i had an awesome play yesterday, and learnt loads of new stuff... but i didn't take the camera... frown

however.

loads of 4 staff patterns. and runarounds. and stuff. bastl, it's going to be awesome.

a heap of 3 staff (1 person) starts, including some nice kickups.

mills mess.

anttis funny cascade with the poncey arms.

dips.

total random juggling. aaaaaaaahahahahahaha ubblol

double pirouettes

2up pirouettes. and caught 2 of three in a 3 up (tried it loads badly too, though)

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splinterific
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Posted:the 3 staff millsmess was great biggrin want to see a 5staff version soon though

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bastl
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Posted: Written by: splinterific


the 3 staff millsmess was great biggrin want to see a 5staff version soon though



eek any idea what that would mean confused such things as a pattern about 4 metres broad and 5,5 metres high...quite a lot of feet work todo...next to the fact its an 5 object pattern....

but why is a 5 staff mills soo much better than a 3 staff ?
-just because its harder?


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