Richee
HOP librarian
Location: Prague
Member Since: 15th Jan 2002
Total posts: 1841
Posted:This is an deeper look through the vision of Poi move.



Beginning (2000/2001)



In the beginning there were no move,

only people, Poi and great will.



Direction (2001)



The early state of move, when everything

having diferent direction, become a differ-

ent move.



(200..)



Family (2002/2003)



Like discovery of space. Looking for any

place where the hand can spin Poi with.



(1, 2, 3 , 4)



Fundamental (2003/2005)



Golden age. Break of a circle with a huge

impact on young community, Jedi forever.



(1, 2, 3, 4 + 0)



Atom (2006)



Directionless, time independent ideal

move, virtual border.



(*)



Future (2007/*)



I think there will be still, the randomness

of unique. But more influence in body

move, continuity.



Less move, more dance.



What do you think?



lightning,



:R


POI THEO(R)IST

Delete Topic

Mr_Chutney
Mr_Chutney

Tosser
Location: Herefordshire
Member Since: 18th Apr 2003
Total posts: 1711
Posted:Richee, you're a bit like Rev to me- probably gifted beyond belief, but totally incomprehensible without years of work or divine intervention.

Thanks for all the hard work though- you obviously care, and I bet you spin beautifully smile


Delete

[Nx?]
[Nx?]

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Member Since: 5th Nov 2001
Total posts: 3749
Posted:collapse smile

T

(p.s.) I actually understand this one!


This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti

Delete

Moloch
Moloch

Shirt-Cocker Extraordinaire
Location: Colorado
Member Since: 26th Dec 2006
Total posts: 47
Posted:Youu're vision is right I believe, if everyone did the same moves, the dancers would stand out?
And what is a dancer to you? To anybody?
Not mass conformity, mass individuality on the horizon wink


Delete

Moloch
Moloch

Shirt-Cocker Extraordinaire
Location: Colorado
Member Since: 26th Dec 2006
Total posts: 47
Posted:I bet there are tons of "secret" spinners out there right now, I think the future of what poi can be shines so bright. What are you're feelings, optimistic towards the future or do you have a sense of impending doom that poi becomes a fad, gets commercialized, and everything special about it fades away as poi battles and competitions drain away its spirit? I have no fear wink

Delete

squid
squid

sanguine
Location: sur
Member Since: 15th Apr 2007
Total posts: 382
Posted:After seeing what Bluecat can do on a vid from MoM, I have no fear for the creativity of poi (or manipulation in general). I mean, you have families of wibblers, contact poi, thrown poi, dance, freestyle tricksters, spinners, glowchilds, firefreaks, and sockers. People can diverge in so many ways and still develop their unique voice within each of those areas.

And no, I just cant picture poi becoming a competitive venue. 90% of the vids out there are from someone's backyard, where they spin alone. The other 10% are bringing people together in harmony. peace And that's just the ones who actually video what they are doing.

People do it for the love and the "that's too cool to pass up" factor. smile Course....that may just be my utopian fantasies speaking. ubbrollsmile


"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow

Delete

simian
simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted: Written by: Richee

Less move, more dance.



*yawn*

heard that one before.



i think you're overly relying on hindsight without the benefit of foresight



you see us at the end of a story, when we're in an ongoing process



2008 will be the year of spinning in context


"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

Delete

[Nx?]
[Nx?]

Carpal \'Tunnel
Location: Europe,Scotland,Both
Member Since: 5th Nov 2001
Total posts: 3749
Posted:nice smile

This is a post by tom, all spelling is deleberate
-><- Kallisti

Delete

simian
simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted: Written by: simian


 Written by: Richee

Less move, more dance.


*yawn*
heard that one before.



well perhaps not that nice. i feel i should explain that part further, as it could be offensive taken the wrong way.

dancing with poi is ace
but poi is not dance and dance is not poi
They are two seperate and intensely technical disciplines
an advance in singing is not an advance in playing the guitar
even though they go together nicely


"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

Delete

Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:Utterly mental...

Anyway, yes, I'm with Simon.
(Not in a relationship way mind you)

Future?
There is no poi


Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude

Delete

simian
simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted: Written by: Durbs

There is no poi


unless its in context


"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

Delete

mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted:I think that drubs should combine CJ and poi, ie, putting 100mm acrylics into his socks and then crazily manipulating them. While they're on his feet on off. Then he should spin poi with them. I really want to see that. Well i really want to see him hit himself with them. So much so that I'll pay strugz a fiver to rape him. Not that that will convince drubs to do it, but it'll make me feel better.

So what's this context thing?


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

Delete

simian
simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted:what do you reckon it is?

"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

Delete

UCOF
UCOF

Carpal \'Tunnel

Member Since: 17th Apr 2002
Total posts: 15414
Posted:and why, perhaps?

Delete

mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted: Written by: simian


what do you reckon it is?



Can I buy one at the hop shop?


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

Delete

simian
simian

110% MONKEY EVERY TIME ALL THE TIME JUST CANT STOP THE MONKEY
Location: London
Member Since: 11th Oct 2002
Total posts: 3149
Posted:new thread

"Switching between different kinds of chuu chuu sometimes gives this "urgh wtf?" effect because it's giving people the phi phenomenon."

Delete

Durbs
Durbs

Classically British
Location: Epsom, Surrey, England
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2001
Total posts: 5688
Posted:It's not so much the "What is context" it's more a case of "when should it be done in context".

Which is seldom


Burner of Toast
Spinner of poi
Slacker of enormous magnitude

Delete

mcp
mcp

Flying Water Muppet
Location: Edin-borrow.
Member Since: 20th May 2003
Total posts: 5276
Posted: Written by: Durbs


It's not so much the "What is context" it's more a case of "when should it be done in context".



If the 'it' is sex and the context is you then with the answer:

 Written by: Durbs


seldom



I concur.


"the now legendary" - Kaskade
"the still legendary" - Kaskade

I spunked in my friend's aquarium and the fish ate it. I love all fish. Especially the pink ones. They are my bitches. - Anon.

Delete

FluffyZealot
FluffyZealot

newbie
Location: NSW
Member Since: 10th Jul 2007
Total posts: 12
Posted:I find that well at least my spinning style changes from season to season. It's a very personal thing that can't really be taught. Sure the tricks and moves are in there, but how you implement them into fluid motion is up to you.
Its about the freedom to be what you want and how you want to.
Reminds me of the "freerunning" thing "Le Parkour", each person runs how they see fit, each seeing the obstacles in their own manner and using their creativity (and skills) to overcome them. smile


I think this is what this conversation is referring to :P
If not, then ummm... the pink pidgeon Archibald sat on the existential weekday of tomorrow....

(*fingers crossed I didn't just insult someones mother* :P )


Start by doing what's necessary; then do what's possible; and suddenly you are doing the impossible. -St Francis of Assisi

Delete

Seye
Seye

Geek
Location: Manchester, UK
Member Since: 27th Mar 2005
Total posts: 1261
Posted: Written by: mcp


 Written by: Durbs


It's not so much the "What is context" it's more a case of "when should it be done in context".



If the 'it' is sex and the context is you then with the answer:

 Written by: Durbs


seldom



I concur.


That is possibly the best post on HoP ever ubblol clap


Delete

Hypnotic
Member
Location: Charlotte, NC
Member Since: 19th Feb 2006
Total posts: 44
Posted:I like the Philosophy of growth in poi. It brings back memories of break throughs to new levels of understanding within poi and myself. I personaly wonder what kind of break throughs and philosophys people that "look down" upon poi/fire dance have.
Everytime you think you've peaked there is allways something new. Though I havent even felt close to a peak in awhile.


Delete

Tanelorn
newbie

Member Since: 6th Dec 2007
Total posts: 9
Posted: Written by: Richee


Beginning (2000/2001)

In the beginning there were no move,
only people, Poi and great will.




What was before 2000? Was Poi simply not popular enough for it to have a history other than in new zealand?


Delete

squid
squid

sanguine
Location: sur
Member Since: 15th Apr 2007
Total posts: 382
Posted:prehistory. A case where the poi movement was singular and miniscule; documentation in the way of text based forums, videos, etc being nonexistent.

The poi, people and will were there, but a great mystery waiting to be discovered. Thank goodness for whoever was our Jane Goodall.:)


"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow

Delete

fanged_angel
fanged_angel

poiromaniac
Location: liverpool, uk
Member Since: 11th Jul 2007
Total posts: 162
Posted:theres alot of arguing going on over the future of poi do i sense a schism of styles and ideals? or are we going just going to do what i always thought poi was about and go with the flow?

i dont mind where poi goes in the future because i know it will always stay with me. and wherever i take poi or poi takes me i know il enjoy the journey and isnt that what everything is about, poi, life, love and everything else. nobody will ever be "finished" with poi (or love and nobody should ever give up on life) nothing really have a limitation so were not going reach our destination so enjoy the journey, i know i will biggrin


Delete