Give me a lever long enough and a place to stand and I can beat the world into submission.
i would have changed ***** to phallus, and claire to petey Petey
Rougie: but that's what I'm doing here
Arnwyn: what letting me adjust myself in your room?..don't you dare quote that on HoP...
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
Written by: Rouge Dragon
So if you have an issue with NHS psychiatrists, how would you feel about psychiatrists if the system was different? Or even if you were in another country with a different system?
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: robnunchucks
did you actualy read the balony detection kit section? it isn't about scientology is a section about Common fallacies of logic and rhetoric. for people who may not have a firm graps of critical reasoning skills it is a page designed to show people how to criticaly evaulate information and reasoning. scientology isn't mentioned once on the entire page.
Written by: robnunchucks
as for the porn mag i refer you to item one of the balony detection kit Ad hominem - attacking the arguer and not the argument.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
Written by: robnunchucks
LOL ok dave first ones fair enough phyciatry is not perfect and there are no dout mistakes however i'ed like to note that most of the storys are about electro shock something long since abandoned for the exact reasons stated here
however the second im afraid you have failed to check your sources dave the CCHR is actualy a front group for scientology which has set up a large number of dummy coperations and groups
heres a list https://www.holysmoke.org/cos/cult-front-groups-latest.htm
dont beleave me do a search is is not the only list and the fact that CCHR is a front set up in 1969 and funded by scientology is mentioned several times by a large number of independ sources.....
Written by: CCHR
What is CCHR?
CCHR International headquarters in Los Angeles, California
The Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR) is a non-profit, public benefit organization dedicated to investigating and exposing psychiatric violations of human rights. It also ensures that criminal acts within the psychiatric industry are reported to the proper authorities and acted upon.
Dr. Thomas Szasz
CCHR was founded in 1969 by the Church of Scientology and the internationally acclaimed author, Dr. Thomas Szasz,
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by:
however i'ed like to note that most of the storys are about electro shock something long since abandoned for the exact reasons stated here
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
Written by: robnunchucks
Cathoisism
giveing money to the church is volentary you dont have to give any money.
if family memebers or friends are non catholic you are still aloud to asscociate with them.
confesions are protected by church law as confidental.
there are no conciquences for leaveing the church.
other than a rebutal there are no conciquences for critisizeing the church.
church beleafs are avadiable to any one catholic or not
Scientology
giveing money is mandatory and the amount of money you need to give gets larger the longer you've been with the church many people as a result end up working full time for them because they can't aford to pay any other way.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
Written by: robnunchucks
finaly yes people shouldn't be exposed to electro shock against there will
-Mike
Certified Mad Doctor and HoP High Priest of Nutella
A buckuht n a hooze! -Valura
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
Written by:
the only time a psychiatric therapy may be administered without the patient's consent is if the psychiatrist believes that the patient is not mentally sound to be making her own decisions.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Empty your mind. Be formless, Shapeless, like Water.
Put Water into a cup, it becomes the cup, put water into a bottle, it becomes the bottle, put water into a teapot, it becomes the teapot.
Water can flow, or it can Crash.
Be Water My Friend.
If we as members of the human race practice meditation, we can transcend our fear, despair, and forgetfulness. Meditation is not an escape. It is the courage to look at reality with mindfulness and concentration. Thich Nhat Hanh
Faith
Nay, whatever comes one hour was sunlit and the most high gods may not make boast of any better thing than to have watched that hour as it passed
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
Written by: robnunchucks
Having been involved in this thread, I do intend, when the opportunity becomes available, to attend a scientology 'information event', at which point I will adjust my opinion of scientology accordingly.
ok but dave please be carful dont give them your address or phone number or even your full name if you can nothing they can use to track you down.
also if you attend an "auditing" session dont tell them anything you wouldn't want made public regardless of what you will be lead to beleave there is no confidnetiality during auding
oh and finaly when you first try to join you'll be asked to take a personality test just so you know your answers on the test are unimporantat the results are allways the same.
"your messed up in some way you need to buy the book dianetics to make you better"
anyways dave realy do be carfull if you attend the meeting regardless of our diffrences of oppionon here i dont wanta see anyone get caught up in the mess that is scientology
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
Written by: robnunchucks
the CCHR is not a reliable source of information its a propaganda site from scientologists a group who clame that druging and rapeing patents by phyciatrists is routeen and that the holocaus was conceaved and carryed out by phyciologists.
i know it supports your case dave but scientology doesn't dislike phycatrists for sensable reasons they dislike them because phyciatrsits exposed there messia as a fraud and are doing this as a form of revenge
and after a little recearch doc lighting is right only people deamed unable to offer concent are given forced electro shock and of those %60-%70 ECT show marked improvements.
but dave what are you suggesting as an alternative? if people aren't well enough to give there concent should we simply leave them in there padded room and do our best to stop them commiting suicide? we could give them drugs but you've already said you wouldn't want that. So what are we left with?
do we just lock people up and hope they'll get better?
electro shock is very much like surgery people dislike the idea of been cut open and havieng organs removed sliced and swaped for the organs of the dead. however with surgry we make an exception because we understand it is benifical to the person.
just as electro shock seems an unplessent and disturbing idea we must also make an exception because the evidence shows it works and improves peoples lives.
i know you personaly had a bad experiance with the system. and clearly mistakes happen but if people are doing there best to improve the lives of others and scientific data shows that they are actualy suceeding in most cases. you can't blame someone for trying to help but failing.
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
"You can't outrun Death forever.
But you can make the Bastard work for it."
--MAJOR KORGO KORGAR,
"Last of The Lancers"
AFC 32
Educate your self in the Hazards of Fire Breathing STAY SAFE!
My nunchucks vital statictics
weight: 500g
handle lenght: 16 inches
chain length: 2 inches
Using the keywords [scientology panorama bbc] we found the following existing topics.