tauschung
newbie

Member Since: 10th May 2007
Total posts: 5
Posted:Hey all,
I think I'm ready for fire. I'm making my fire chains and a contact staff at the same time.
I found some nice dog chokers at a pet store, and they come in different gauges. So, I was wondering what would be better for spinning? 2, 3, or 4 mm?
I also am thinking of using aluminum conduit for my staff. My question would be, is that even suitable? Or should I use something else?
Thanks,
Jake


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pineapple pete
pineapple pete

water based
Location: melbourne
Member Since: 20th Sep 2004
Total posts: 5125
Posted:im not so good with judging this kind of stuff (all my firepoi sets have been bought from stores) but before buying the dog chain, id make sure it is a reliable metal, that isnt coated in something ie. stainless steel, not chrome plated steel.. also, the HoP shop uses 3mm chain, so im assuming this is a good size.

im not really sure about what to use for staffs though smile

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splinterific
splinterific

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Member Since: 12th Mar 2007
Total posts: 248
Posted:i use the 4mm dog chain on an old set i have at home and they are grand, never had any issues and they are very strong smile

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DarkFyre
DarkFyre

HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
Location: Palmerston North
Member Since: 4th Nov 2005
Total posts: 1965
Posted:To quickly answer your questions
-Dog chains are great and i would sugest anything 3mm and up. Alternatively get some 3mm chain and some Quick Links from a DIY store
-Aluminium tubing is fine and on the plus side it's lighter that steel.

Have fun making your new toys. weavesmiley


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tauschung
newbie

Member Since: 10th May 2007
Total posts: 5
Posted:Thanks..

Now I have an engineering question. How would I make it so that my staff has interchangeable wicks?

Eyebolt through and end cap? Or drill into a wooden dowel?


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Shawnie
Captain Shawnie the Dreaded

Member Since: 10th Mar 2004
Total posts: 126
Posted:About the chains.. Make sure that they're not TOO big. Having real tick metal may sound like a great idea, but remember how terribly hot it will get. Don't want to be swinging around too much hot metal eh? Just have a look at it all and use your judgment.

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DarkFyre
DarkFyre

HoP mage and keeper of the fireballs
Location: Palmerston North
Member Since: 4th Nov 2005
Total posts: 1965
Posted:good point VR

Interchangeable wicks are pointless unless you intend to do a couloured fire spin. Instead i would make 2 fire staffs so then you can play around with some double staff.

If you still want to make intechangeable heads then i would suggest that you put a screw thread onto the inside of the staff and the outside of the head (this is of course assuming that the kevlar is wraped around a piece if tubing some of which extends from the base of the kevlar) and use a spring washer and a linch pin to prevent the head from unscrewing itself while spinning. I do howeveer have to say that this is just a sugestion and it may not be the best way to achieve the desired result.


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squid
squid

sanguine
Location: sur
Member Since: 15th Apr 2007
Total posts: 382
Posted:Hey, dont forget to check out the Articles section for selecting metals:
http://www.homeofpoi.com/articles/metal_fire_twirling_parts.php


"to a man whose only tool is a hammer, the whole world looks like a nail." Abraham Maslow

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Mynci
Mynci

Macaque of all trades
Location: wombling free...
Member Since: 27th Apr 2005
Total posts: 8737
Posted: Written by: tauschung


Thanks..

Now I have an engineering question. How would I make it so that my staff has interchangeable wicks?

Eyebolt through and end cap? Or drill into a wooden dowel?



I would suggest speaking to pyromonkey wink check his gallery and see if he still has pictures of his hyrda-staff with changeable wicks that screw in the end of a nice heavy sounding contact staff.


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tauschung
newbie

Member Since: 10th May 2007
Total posts: 5
Posted:I didn't want to make a new topic for this one.

I've tried to think of several methods. What I ended up doing was to sink the dowel a bit further in the staff and drop an eye screw into it.

All I do to connect the head to the staff is use a quicklink through the cotter pin, and the eye screw. The only thing is that it moves a bit inside the staff while I am spinning. I was thinking of putting a cap on the end, but those would make it waaaay to heavy on the ends.

Any suggestions to help?


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