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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:Seems like a while since I've posted a progress update so here we go! Whilst things have been outwardly rather quiet, I've been working hard behind closed doors:

The electronics have had some major work on them and are now very robust as a result. I've got the final prototype boards on order and I'm fairly certain they contain to the last remaining electrical issue: Currently, if you smack a pair together fairly hard, the batteries will lose their connection for a split second which will reset the poi to the beginning of the first sequence. I'm almost certain the changes I've made will fix the problem once and for all biggrin
The language to actually tell the poi what colours to change to has been put through it's paces a bit more which has ironed out a few bugs.
I've made some significant progress on the GUI (the bit of software you run on your computer to tell the poi what colours you want). It needs some more work, but the ocre is there and with a bit of luck should work on Windows, Linux and the MAC!
I've fixed the button pressing properly now so you can select different sequences, reset the current sequence and hold it at the beginning, turn them on/off etc. etc.
I've made a fairly crude mold to try and make some prototype housings... which worked rather well. The first test used plastic drainpipe which is a bit too flexible to be useful. The next step will be to do the same again with Poly Carbonate (one of the toughest plastics available). If that works, I'll make a better mould which won't look as pretty as the final balls I want to make, but will be otherwise identical to the final product!
After talking to lots of you, the general consensus seemed to be that the AAA's made the poi on the light side and that a battery life of ~1-1.5 hours was on the low side. So now we're shifting towards using AA's. I've not run any proper tests yet, but the numbers suggest they will last for ~2-3 hours on the AA's and weigh a bit more too smile
I've started investigating how we'd go about building the technology into a staff!


I'm certain we'll have these out and on the shelves by October, and fairly confident that they'll actually be ready to sell a few months before that! I don't want to get people's hopes too high, but how cool would it be if we had something ready in time for PLAY? wink


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Kneel
Kneel

journeyman
Location: Dublin,Ireland
Member Since: 23rd Apr 2007
Total posts: 80
Posted:hows about hyperlight oxyegen?u cud glow on the inside lol

-Niall-

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Skatto
Skatto

Walking on whims...
Location: Eastbourne, UK
Member Since: 12th Jan 2007
Total posts: 687
Posted:But I want them noowwww. :-(

Skatto

"Fly like a mouse,
Run like a cushion,
Be the small bookcase."

For goodness sake, don't aggravate the otters!!!

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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:Patience is a virtue... although now that I'm back from a two week holiday in a remote part of Scotland, I can get cracking again smile

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Skulduggery
Skulduggery

Pirate Pixie Crew Captain
Location: Wales
Member Since: 12th Aug 2004
Total posts: 8428
Posted:on a hoop! Yippeeeee

Feed me Chocolate!!! Feed me NOW!

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squarefish
(...trusty steed of the rodeo midget...)
Location: the state of flux
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2002
Total posts: 403
Posted:This is a serious question. Malcom and Jon I am interested to hear your thoughts



It has been rumored that HOP is going to be selling these.

Is this going to be an exclusive contract?

Will we be able to still purchase them direct?



I DO NOT want to have to pay for the product *PLUS* shipping to Nz from the UK and *PLUS A HOP PROFIT MARGIN* and *PLUS*shipping back to Ireland if I can just get them direct! frown



Quote*-- Hyperlights, ......rumour has it HoP will be selling them when they're released... confused

..--*Quote



? true/not true?


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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:I have discussed this with Malcolm (ages ago and only very briefly via pm) but I / we have not made any firm plans one way or another. I'd have to discuss it further with him before making more of a comment one way or the other. I do however agree that shipping them out to NZ only to ship them back to Ireland would be an expensive way to operate.

I don't intend to make HoP the sole distributor so there's a good chance you'd be able to get them from somewhere closer. This might well be direct from the website. To be honest though, I'm more focussed on other parts of the project for the time being.

Is that enough of an answer? smile


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squarefish
(...trusty steed of the rodeo midget...)
Location: the state of flux
Member Since: 23rd Sep 2002
Total posts: 403
Posted:Wheeee!
Thank you Jon!
All hail the bright and flashy!
(kneels down before the lights )
M.


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Location: My House
Member Since: 27th Jun 2005
Total posts: 1286
Posted:Joins squarefish

" meditate ubblove ALL HAIL JON, ALL HAIL JON! ubblove meditate "


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Mr_Chutney
Mr_Chutney

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Location: Herefordshire
Member Since: 18th Apr 2003
Total posts: 1711
Posted:Shut up you two.. he'll only become smug and complacent and take longer to finish them... get on with it tongue

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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:Chutney.. put down the whip I'm going as fast as I can!!

Should have some time this evening to get some more stuff done. You should see the pretty housing designs - looks fab! biggrin


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jo_rhymes
jo_rhymes

Momma Bear
Location: Telford, Shrops
Member Since: 10th Apr 2005
Total posts: 4525
Posted:I'm getting more and more excited at the prospect at owning a pair of hyperlights as each day passes bounce

keep up the good work Jon! There'll be muffins in it for you smile


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ElectricBlue
ElectricBlue

Now with extra strawberries
Location: Canberra
Member Since: 11th Feb 2002
Total posts: 810
Posted:Ooo i am very excited too.

I had not thought about it much but when i was explaining them to a friend of mine I realised how much i'm looking forward to mucking around making cool program sequances. Eeep so my inner computer nerd is also very excited.

Do i remember sombody posting a progam that was a simulation of the poi an the gui for the code program some where? I would very muchly like to have another look at that.


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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:mt.beer posted a 'glow' java program which takes the little files you write to program hyperlights and turns it into a pretty display.. Can't find the link at the moment though frown

Muffins eh? *grin* biggrin


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splinterific
splinterific

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Member Since: 12th Mar 2007
Total posts: 248
Posted:have the file at home, ill try dig it up later smile dammit jon... move to dublin biggrin

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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:Maybe.. if Hyperlights sell enough to support me wink

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Mynci
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Macaque of all trades
Location: wombling free...
Member Since: 27th Apr 2005
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Posted:I think they could if/when you can increase your range to include other props. wink

I've only seen 1 set of glo diablo handsticks and never seen any glow devil stick handsticks wink may be a market there for you (I don't want them I'm waiting for a quality staff from anyone but they may be simple things to increase your selling power) we'd probably sell them if you did on our stall / shop


A couple of balls short of a full cascade... or maybe a few cards short of a deck... we'll see how this all fans out.

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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:Interesting ideas for the future that's for sure. Not convinced I could fit all the electronics of the hyperlight technology into the handle for a stick, but perhaps using a cut down version; standard LEDs and a single AAA battery... hmmmm.. *ponders* smile

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Geeza
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Location: Leeds
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Posted: Written by: *HyperLight


Interesting ideas for the future that's for sure. Not convinced I could fit all the electronics of the hyperlight technology into the handle for a stick, but perhaps using a cut down version; standard LEDs and a single AAA battery... hmmmm.. *ponders* smile



Just have all the electronics and stuff in the middle of the staff with wires doing to led's at the ends. Or in fatter handles in diabolo/devil sticks (probably easier said than done!)

woo hu, october is neally upon us. They best be done by my bday on 10th, or else!


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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:Staffs would have the electronics in the ends because putting them anywhere else would reduce the battery life or make it impossible to take them out to charge. Diablo sticks would probably be in the handles as you've suggested.

...but lets not get ahead of ourselves - first thing is to get the poi finished and on the market smile


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Invader Xan
Invader Xan

Your friendly neighbourhood mad scientist
Location: Over the hills and far away
Member Since: 7th May 2005
Total posts: 479
Posted:Dude, quick question...

Is it possible to sequence Hyperlights to flicker so fast you get a strobe effect? smile Just curious...


"Love the art in yourself and not yourself in the art."
--Konstantin Stanislavisky

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splinterific
splinterific

enthusiast

Member Since: 12th Mar 2007
Total posts: 248
Posted:yes it is smile

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Invader Xan
Invader Xan

Your friendly neighbourhood mad scientist
Location: Over the hills and far away
Member Since: 7th May 2005
Total posts: 479
Posted:Marvellous! biggrin

Heh... As if I needed another reason to want a pair! rolleyes


"Love the art in yourself and not yourself in the art."
--Konstantin Stanislavisky

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decemberscalm
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Location: Cypress (Houston), Texas
Member Since: 29th Aug 2007
Total posts: 49
Posted:Is it still likely to cost 160 Euro's? I think thats about 230 USD right now.

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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:Yeah, you can strobe at up to 500Hz smile

...and they'll cost ~150ish ~= 214euros ~= $300


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Geeza
Geeza

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Location: Leeds
Member Since: 14th May 2006
Total posts: 694
Posted: Written by: *HyperLight


Yeah, you can strobe at up to 500Hz smile




Is that enough to cause epileptic fits? If so then can you also mimic the bbc's olympic games 2012 video of the diver?


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_G_
_G_

enthusiast
Location: Paris
Member Since: 13th May 2005
Total posts: 372
Posted:I broke ed de Hyperlights frown

Jon, Could do with having a chat with you sometime soon. Do you have some time?

G.


You can spend hours playing with minutes!

I have seen the light! ........ It was purple <img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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*HyperLight
*HyperLight

old hand
Location: Great Malvern [UK]
Member Since: 9th Dec 2003
Total posts: 1174
Posted:No idea about epilipsy, but that's definitely a concern with Hyperlights!

I'll be in tonight if you want to chat via msn or something, or I can pm you my phone number if you don't already have it? Not to worry about breakage; they're prototypes after all smile


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PinkNigel
PinkNigel

Pinker than thou
Location: A little pink world all my own...
Member Since: 4th May 2006
Total posts: 336
Posted:7 - 15Hz is the dangerous range for photo-induced epilepsy..

A wise man once said: "You have two ears and one mouth, therefore you should shut the censored up and listen" (though, to be fair, he might not've put it _quite_ like that..)

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Invader Xan
Invader Xan

Your friendly neighbourhood mad scientist
Location: Over the hills and far away
Member Since: 7th May 2005
Total posts: 479
Posted:Might be worth putting something in the sequencing software, so you can't use that frequency range...? Just a thought.

(Sorry Mr Light! I'm not trying to give you more stuff to do!)


"Love the art in yourself and not yourself in the art."
--Konstantin Stanislavisky

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decemberscalm
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Location: Cypress (Houston), Texas
Member Since: 29th Aug 2007
Total posts: 49
Posted:Never go to a light show if you have epelepsy ^,^;

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